why? Why? WHY? WTF Canucks?

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The sad thing is that if it is proved that EP40 is just not capable of turning things around, then his value in any trade drops and they will end up with nothing much in return - no other franchise will give up a star player for him, even if they think he has a use on their team as a two-way or depth centre. That is the risk the Canucks took betting everything on him being our #1 centre.
Plus if things are going that badly, then Brock Boeser will definitely want out too, and need do nothing but let his contract expire. The Canucks will then have no stars in their top scoring line at all.

If EP40 is broken and it's permanent, and he gets traded, where is the cost of that trade? The Canucks lost a draft pick -- they've given away LOTS of them over the years. So they get some picks and prospects and gain nearly $12 million in cap space on top of what they already have.

It's not just EP40 that's the issue. Our Vezina calibre goalie is broken, we don't have a true #2C, and despite improvements in our D, our top pair are a couple of Smurfs who get targeted and worn down/injured.

Having a fucking moron for an owner is really the major problem and how do you fix that?

Last season the team hugely over-achieved (even with Petey absent again) and almost made it to the next round riding an AHL goalie. Ownership again had dreams of playoff money and let the FO make more stupid mistakes.

How far can this team really go with Lank/Silovs? Do you keep Demko as a 30 game back up or trade him to another team?

I'd ship Petey out just to save on the salary. Another 7 years of this isn't going to make the team any better. I'd trade Boeser unless he wants to stay for a reasonable salary/cap hit. But the assets you'd get for both would let you build a better team, even if it didn't have any real superstars.

The hardest Q of all is whether Quinn wants to stay. If not, then there's where you get the massive haul and rebuild the last parts of the team. You'd have M-Pettersson/Hronek; Myers/D-Pettersson; and maybe Soucy/Willander and some other fill-ins.

 

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If EP40 is broken and it's permanent, and he gets traded, where is the cost of that trade? The Canucks lost a draft pick -- they've given away LOTS of them over the years. So they get some picks and prospects and gain nearly $12 million in cap space on top of what they already have.

It's not just EP40 that's the issue. Our Vezina calibre goalie is broken, we don't have a true #2C, and despite improvements in our D, our top pair are a couple of Smurfs who get targeted and worn down/injured.

Having a fucking moron for an owner is really the major problem and how do you fix that?

Last season the team hugely over-achieved (even with Petey absent again) and almost made it to the next round riding an AHL goalie. Ownership again had dreams of playoff money and let the FO make more stupid mistakes.

How far can this team really go with Lank/Silovs? Do you keep Demko as a 30 game back up or trade him to another team?

I'd ship Petey out just to save on the salary. Another 7 years of this isn't going to make the team any better. I'd trade Boeser unless he wants to stay for a reasonable salary/cap hit. But the assets you'd get for both would let you build a better team, even if it didn't have any real superstars.

The hardest Q of all is whether Quinn wants to stay. If not, then there's where you get the massive haul and rebuild the last parts of the team. You'd have M-Pettersson/Hronek; Myers/D-Pettersson; and maybe Soucy/Willander and some other fill-ins.

Well, Demko is injured again anyways. I think Quinn Hughes will stay, because a Norris-worthy D is not easy to come by and the club (hopefully) knows it. The Canucks have never had such a scoring D like him. But they do need to protect him and if they put too much emphasis on him and burn him out that could be a thing which ruins his time here.
The other D's are not going to be that level, nor is it likely the Canucks will just luck into another one. Myers is likely in his last few years, maybe one contract left after this, and was never that quick so when he loses a step, it's doubtful he can keep up with a speedster like Hughes.

Boeser will be the big question mark for now, and I can see him being of value to another team, but the problem is if the potential trade partners smell blood the Canucks will get hosed on any deadline deal. The other problem is do they have anyone who can basically fill the role he has got, as a team's top scorer, which they would want to trade. I imagine Boeser would be keen to play for the Wild or something, but have they even got anything the Canucks would want?

If the Canucks were a basement-dwelling team it would seem easier to decide to cash him in for a 1st round pick or something, or definitely a playoff contender, but they always seem to be on the cusp, just making it in or just missing.