Jerk off, find a GF, renew your subscription to Wank magazine, practice enough yoga so you can go down on yourself, become an asexual?
Why so much?
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Alright. Nobody wants to say this, so I will.
I'm going to be as tactful as possible, so please don't kill the messenger!
When a girl raises her rates, her clientele changes. This new clientele type could, by some girls, be considered more desirable.
Quoting directly from Levitt and Dubner's case of a Chigago escort (from Freakonomics):
"When starting out ... at 300 an hour, the demand was nearly overwhelming. Eventually she raised her fee. She expected demand to fall, but it didn't. The more she charged, the less actual sex she was having. At 300 an hour, she had a string of one-hour appointments with each man wanting to get in as much action as he could. But charging 500 an hour, she was often wined and dined ... a four-hour dinner date that ends with a 20-minute sexual encounter"
I'm going to be as tactful as possible, so please don't kill the messenger!
When a girl raises her rates, her clientele changes. This new clientele type could, by some girls, be considered more desirable.
Quoting directly from Levitt and Dubner's case of a Chigago escort (from Freakonomics):
"When starting out ... at 300 an hour, the demand was nearly overwhelming. Eventually she raised her fee. She expected demand to fall, but it didn't. The more she charged, the less actual sex she was having. At 300 an hour, she had a string of one-hour appointments with each man wanting to get in as much action as he could. But charging 500 an hour, she was often wined and dined ... a four-hour dinner date that ends with a 20-minute sexual encounter"
...I see very few new clients these days and enjoy the comfort of spending my time with gentlemen that I have already been acquainted with. I do accept some new gents but I am very picky about it, since I am so part time I can afford to do this.
Well, I guess I'll have to work on becoming one of those regulars. It was, after all, quite fantastic! I wonder though, who was more nervous, you or me?
There's a reason why Freakonomics is not an assigned textbook at any recognized university. Buyer beware!
Sorry 'bout that...was affected by the fullmoon.Its about prices in general, sheesh
It's definitely not a textbook, it's "pop" reading. I wouldn't pay to take any class that assigned pop readings.
Are you saying you think the interview is made up, because the book isn't a textbook?
The Yellow Pages isn't a textbook, does that mean they make stuff up too?
Yeah well if that is such a fine arguement then WHY do gals HATE the MICRO's so much?
Emmanuelle are you willing to shower me up to start and clean me whilst giving me a BBBJ as well as DATO or even something as nifty as a minty scope BBBJ and then going on to give me a body slide along with another BBBJ and then wicked full service and then another wicked clean up shower after we are done for $160 for 30 minutes?.......most likely not.
SR
It's not my argument, so I can't answer that (I'm just the lowly messenger!!)
Who hates micros anyways? We don't have any in my city, so I've never talked to other girls about them. I would be interested in hearing why girls supposedly hate them.
I just think Freakonomics is a junky book, that's all. And IIRC, the Yellow pages are now dead.
I got a brand spanking new one in February.
And for the people mentioning the prices of US based escorts being higher, keep in mind that in the US prostitution is still completely illegal (except for one county in Nevada) and therefore is alot riskier to the ladies on a criminal/financial level.
Soooooo, what Emmy should do now is quoting something from Das Kapital about commodity fetishism, and you would buy the argument?
sr, you're assuming you're young enough to be 'acceptable' to her in the first place!
Logically, there are many more factors involved here, than just price. Such as: age of provider, service of provider, geographic location, particulars of the space of the provider, supply and demand in the local area of the provider, economics of the location, etc.
I think it's really naive to suggest that all a lady has to do is raise her rates, and automatically her clientele will improve and she will have to work less hours to earn the same income.
This is one story from Freakonomics...the outcome of all situations shouldn't be based on one story, whether true or not.
If you want a really comprehensive study, that may have some merit, maybe take the stories of 1000 ladies, make a choice about the geographic location that the study will be based upon; then compare it against the studies of 1000 ladies in 10 other geographic locations. Now you're onto some useful information. You should never base any conclusions on such little information.
Well put.
I would also suggest a simpler method of changing clientele would be to eliminate 1 hour bookings. Saying the clientele in a higher pay grade is more desirable is only true if the sole purpose is money (which the story related points to it's not). It's hard for myself to have the time to be able to enjoy the extras within an hour booking (wine, conversation, non sexual contact) so the encounter does become centered around sex. Two or three hours and everything can move at a much more leisurly pace with time taken to enjoy everything, the actual sex is only somewhat longer than a 1 hour stint, but the experience is much more enjoyable.
In raising your rate for that purpose of "improving" your clientele you need to be very honest with yourself. Are you capable of providing quality service that isn't centered around sexual acts? If you aren't, then at higher prices the sex will become all the more important to the client (in which case you'd have the opposite of the story described); save for those who simply desire "arm candy", but it would seem a career based solely on looks would be much shorter lived than one based on merit.
Yes, very very true. I didn't mean to make my post sound like a sweeping generalization. My bad. Since it's just one instance, we could ask the girls here to substantiate it, but I don't think that would happen, because any girl saying this kind of thing first-hand risks upsetting a lot of people.
I don't think anyone actually does that (raises their rates to get "better" clientele). I think what the case shows is that getting a different client base was an unexpected and interesting upshot of increasing the rates.
I would certainly never do that. I am sure that I am at my maximum rate given my looks, service and location. Anyhow, I like my clientele just fine!
I wasn't refering to yourself when I said you, I meant a general "you" (any lady in particular). I'm not certain looks need to factor much into the decision, a real looker I meet became reeeeeeeeal ugly after 15mins of conversation.
Even though, my point still stands, if someone doesn't have the quality in the total experience the sex will become more of a focal point - regardless of the reasoning behind the raise in rates.
Even though, my point still stands, if someone doesn't have the quality in the total experience the sex will become more of a focal point - regardless of the reasoning behind the raise in rates.
I do think the motive for raising the rate is to get better clientelle (subject to whatever "better" means to her, but surely its meant to filter out those into such things as drug addicted street walkers, those with poor manners or without much education, etc).
Your quote from the Freakonomics book makes a lot of sense and I think it's the reality. This is why I never understood why any girl would charge less than $300 (sorry guys). I explained the background to this whole idea earlier in this whole thread, but everybody seemed to ignore it... so I'll restate my theory here:
The rates are set somewhat through this process - the low rate girls (I mean micro girls, asian massage girls, etc.) find that the maximum clients are willing to pay is somewhere around $140-$180. Because of competition, there is downward pressure for prices - that is, there is the tendency for rates to go down rather than up. That is why prices are determined by the lowest prices first. Since the lowest prices are set below $140-$180, the higher rate girls can charge more than that. The average price for them (which are usually the independents) is somewhere between $200-$300. The low rate girls largely exchange money for services, and as far as distinguishing one girl from another, that distinction is based on the kinds of service, the extremity of it, etc. The high rate girls exchange money more for companionship than service. They distinguish themselves from each other by such things as personality, interpersonal communications, accomodating fantasy, and of course sexual services. Personality and interpersonal communications is where there can be the largest differences between providers, in fact, one could say that is what makes each one unique from the eyes of the consumer (I know the provider would beg to differ, that she is unique in all aspects from her point of view). The providers who charge more than $300 are the ones who have been able to distinguish themselves as more "worthy". How would they do that? They do that with clever marketing, creating a persona that is believable and "worthy" to the client to pursue and spend his cash on, he believing that he is buying something that is rare and unlike any other SP out there - which is why I don't understand how an independent SP can market herself (ie: create a website) that is just like every other independent SP website out there: glamourized pics in a studio setting, a little bit of nudity, some generic verbage about herself, etc. If an SP would thoughtfully invest some intelligent effort and time in her marketing, along with the objective of what she wants to achieve, she could propel herself above the $300/hour mark easily.
I don't believe that. Looks is a subjective quality anyways, and I don't believe men will pay based on just looks, nor service. At the higher price points, they are paying for the privilege of being with the person, so it's how the person is marketed.
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LOL. No, I don't think I would buy into Marx much, either. Still, it would probably be a step up. Give me a day or two and I'll get some links to what I think are better reads on the subject.
Actually, I found one a bit sooner. Try this one!
http://catalogue.pearsoned.ca/educa...Edition-with-MyEconLab-13E/9780321685537.page
Have you been to a Starbucks lately? Whenever I am dragged there with a friend the line up is usually pretty long, with many people already drinking their purchased beverages in the cafe area. The brewed coffee taste comparable to that of Seven Eleven but is much more costly.
Have you considered why so many are willing to buy over priced crap coffee, when there are more economical options available? IMHO because of clever marketing that and a branding which tries to make the consumer feel like they are of a higher class and much trendier than those who go to Tim Horton’s or Seven Eleven. Me thinks this type of “branding” can be applied to escorts...
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