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beaveraddict

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Beaveraddict, if you were able to date all these women and have these experiences and eventually settle down, then validates what I'm saying in that being 5'6 or 5'7 is not going to stop a man from finding an adequate person for dating or a relationship. Sure I can agree it can limit you a bit or get in the way, but it does not have to stop you.

No one needs to create a post titled "no one wants to settle down with me" and then blame being 5'6 for your disappointment in the dating world. If you were 5'1 sure I could see that being a more extreme issue and being alot more limiting. But not 5'6.
I'm enjoying our little back 'n forth, by the way... but you are conceding the point, even if you don't realize it. If it would be harder for a man who is 5'1" than a man who is 5'6", then by extension it's a hella lot easier for a man who is 5' 10" or 6'2". It's just math, that was the point of the OP, as I understand it. Sure, it serves no purpose to be fatalistic about it, you have to work with what you have and wallowing in self-pity will get you nowhere. I had a very active dating life when I was younger... but I will bet you a huge sum of $$$ that I would have had even more fun if I were 4-6 inches taller. There seems to be some either well-intentioned obliviousness or (I suspect) disingenuousness borne from a huge denial of privilege to not acknowledge how height is a big factor in dating & relationships.
Again, you haven't disclosed your height!!
As for the other person chiming-in about the patriarchy stuff, sure... so what? It's a "chicken 'n egg" thing, the short ladies who reject short men 'cause they want to "feel protected" by some tall, chin-less non-entity could get off that treadmill... they may be socialized but they are not forced to perpetuate this.
However, the thing that really gets me is the very tall guys who only want to see "spinners"... what's up with that??? I suspect that there is some subconscious dominance behaviour at work here, not just towards the women but also towards other men; by disrupting the logical dating pool of shorter men "just because they can". That may be some "law of the jungle" shit, but THAT is how "the patriarchy" works!
 
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Perpetuated by the patriarchy… we are taught men are supposed to be tall and strong and stoic which is some bullshit
More like perpetuated by millions of years of evolution and selection for desirable traits in a mating partner. Tall, strong and stoic in a male partner are characteristics that would increase chances of survival of offspring. These traits are attractive because they appeal to women on a biological level, not because they were taught.

Most women will not find short guys attractive if you teach them to just how most men will not obese women attractive if you teach them to. They are innate biological preferences.
 

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More like perpetuated by millions of years of evolution and selection for desirable traits in a mating partner. Tall, strong and stoic in a male partner are characteristics that would increase chances of survival of offspring. These traits are attractive because they appeal to women on a biological level, not because they were taught.

Most women will not find short guys attractive if you teach them to just how most men will not obese women attractive if you teach them to. They are innate biological preferences.
Sure, Jan.
*looks pointedly at the many incredibly successful BBW providers and the fact that one of the hottest women in the world (Zendaya) is dating someone shorter than her*
*looks at the men i’ve dated and fucked in my personal life who are shorter than me*
 
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Sure, Jan.
*looks pointedly at the many incredibly successful BBW providers and the fact that one of the hottest women in the world (Zendaya) is dating someone shorter than her*
*looks at the men i’ve dated and fucked in my personal life who are shorter than me*
Just because people occasionally go to eat at McDonald's doesn't mean they wouldn't rather eat steak.
 

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More like perpetuated by millions of years of evolution and selection for desirable traits in a mating partner. Tall, strong and stoic in a male partner are characteristics that would increase chances of survival of offspring. These traits are attractive because they appeal to women on a biological level, not because they were taught.

Most women will not find short guys attractive if you teach them to just how most men will not obese women attractive if you teach them to. They are innate biological preferences.
Well, except that for the last few hundred years none of that shit really matters. Have you had to fend-off any sabre-tooth tigers or Viking raiders lately?
Like a lot of things, our society has evolved much further than our mammalian reflexes... which is a lively debate but doesn't mean it still doesn't suck to be a short man, no matter the gains in technology, food security, conflict resolution (exception: tell that to the folks in Ukraine) & gender-parity.
Also, the obese woman comparison is inaccurate: sure, women face all sorts of pressure to meet unrealistic beauty standards, but: a) weight is manageable, height is not; b) women perpetuate these standards upon themselves to a certain extent. To deny female complicity is on a spectrum from disingenuous to ignorant. I know that's a "chicken 'n egg" thing, but if more women said "fuck these high heels, fuck these silicone implants, fuck these botox lips" and stopped fucking tall, rich guys... wouldn't the world be a better place???
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Tom Cruise doesn't seem to have much of a problem succeeding at his goals.
Does seem to have a problem finding women. David Miscavige selected Katie Holms for him. Before and since, not really a happening guy woman wise.
Totally to do with his shrimpy size. Allegedly he has a complex about his height. And that comes across loud and clear to women.
It is only late in life that the penny dropped for me after years of being given short shrift (so to speak) by women. Of course, that was the problem.
 

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I hear ya, OP. Believe me, it's a common thing that the path that leads guys here goes through that wasteland first.
 
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as a fellow member of the shorter guy club i learned that switching to not giving a fuck really improved my outlook on life. you can wallow in self doubt, or improve yourself and build character. the latter has always paid dividends. why focus on the things you can’t change and instead focus on the things you can?

i swear every short guy out there thinks that’s just because a guy is 6’4 that he has his life all figured out, or that love and relationships are automatically easier. tall guys pay for sex too, just saying.

i find myself more attracted to the 5’8-10 crowd, and they don’t care because i don’t care either!
 

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as a fellow member of the shorter guy club i learned that switching to not giving a fuck really improved my outlook on life. you can wallow in self doubt, or improve yourself and build character. the latter has always paid dividends. why focus on the things you can’t change and instead focus on the things you can?

i swear every short guy out there thinks that’s just because a guy is 6’4 that he has his life all figured out, or that love and relationships are automatically easier. tall guys pay for sex too, just saying.

i find myself more attracted to the 5’8-10 crowd, and they don’t care because i don’t care either!
Great post man. I don't mean to be too preachy here, but life is generally about focusing on the things you can control. You can't do anything about height, but that doesn't mean there isn't a ton of other stuff a guy can work on. With OP, I can't imagine that this guy is just some well put together guy, with an amazing outlook on life, and he would have this amazing dating life, if only.... Gimme a break.
 
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as a fellow member of the shorter guy club i learned that switching to not giving a fuck really improved my outlook on life. you can wallow in self doubt, or improve yourself and build character. the latter has always paid dividends. why focus on the things you can’t change and instead focus on the things you can?

i swear every short guy out there thinks that’s just because a guy is 6’4 that he has his life all figured out, or that love and relationships are automatically easier. tall guys pay for sex too, just saying.

i find myself more attracted to the 5’8-10 crowd, and they don’t care because i don’t care either!
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Like a lot of things, our society has evolved much further than our mammalian reflexes
A few hundred doesn't erase several thousand years in evolution terms...our reptilian brains still lord-over our subconscious. Lots of 'man bites dog' anecdotes, but the vast majority of intersexual dynamics are ruled by our survival instincts and propagating the species. Mother Nature rules no matter how much we try to deny her.
 
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I wonder what the stats for tall men with divorce rates. Are they less than guys 5 9 and under? If the coveted tall guy is taken and cherished and not let go I would imagine the divorce rates are much lower than guys 5 9 5 8 5 7 and below.
 
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