Why does a SP choose to be a SP?

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Member since 2009......hopefully that is not surprise being registered. While a lady might tell you in private why she is in the business, or as another poster suggested she might tell you to fuck off...it's her business and her business alone. For the client going into this as strictly a business transaction it probably doesn't matter as long as he gets his monies worth. For the clients that seem to have emotional needs, or feel that they have to befriend the lady......really what do think the reaction would be from a "white knight" that got told.."I'm here because my pimp will beat my ass if I'm not." You want to hear she has a drug addiction....she's really a lesbian, but will tolerate men because they are an easy mark for the big bucks. You want to hear she takes a hot shower as quickly as possible after you get your hairy, stinking sweaty ass out of her presence... You do want to hear that based on the cleanliness factor...not because she loathes the stink of you. You really want to hear she's in this strictly for the money and quickest and easiest way to relieve you of it is all she's concerned about. Sure would shatter a lot of illusions...not to mention bruise a lot egos.:rip:
Bruised egos? What are you getting in about. You think guys don't know the truth? Is anyone gullible enough to think the girl on the other side of the door will develop feeling for them. Of course she's happy to see your ass heading out the door. She's doing what she has to do to pay the bills. Falling in love with cheating married pooners isn't an irresistible urge she has to struggle with.
 

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Name them and they will be banned, regardless of who they are. We have cleaned up PERB a great deal, and those who treat women like meat are called to account for it. It's not tolerated, and you yourself know it and have had issues with posters resolved in your favour. You have to provide proof, just an accusation doesn't work either, as that allows ladies with an axe to grind too much power as well. We work hard to find a balance.
Yes and thank you very much! Your fast responses and quick clean up is greatly appreciated

I was referring more to just the commentary on reviews (I know bad review blackmailing is against the rules and is not tolerated).
 
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Bruised egos? What are you getting in about. You think guys don't know the truth? Is anyone gullible enough to think the girl on the other side of the door will develop feeling for them. Of course she's happy to see your ass heading out the door. She's doing what she has to do to pay the bills. Falling in love with cheating married pooners isn't an irresistible urge she has to struggle with.
hmmm You would be surprised. Sometimes a guy who fits the "dream guy" description walks through the door, and lady might say to herself, "stop dreaming and thinking anything could ever happen, hes probably married/has gf and most likely would never date you and put up with your lifestyle/past etc"...she has to immediately pop those dream bubbles and forget!

SP's are human beings too, you act like they are all money hungry sharks who use pooners like ATM machines. Contrary to popular belief, but most sp's don't think pooners are losers who can't get laid without paying for it. And I'm sure most pooners don't think SP's are worthless bimbos.
 
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hmmm You would be surprised. Sometimes a guy who fits the "dream guy" description walks through the door, and lady might say to herself, "stop dreaming and thinking anything could ever happen, hes probably married/has gf and most likely would never date you and put up with your lifestyle/past etc"...she has to immediately pop those dream bubbles and forget!

SP's are human beings too, you act like they are all money hungry sharks who use pooners like ATM machines. Contrary to popular belief, but most sp's don't think pooners are losers who can't get laid without paying for it. And I'm sure most pooners don't think SP's are worthless bimbos.
I wasn't making the point that it could never happen but just that I suspect its very rare. Its not going to happen with travelling girls, not gonna happen when the girl is two decades younger than the client. I would suspect a lot of girls have to get high or find some other way of psyching herself up for the event as opposed to looking forward to it.
Or in other words discovering you have chemistry together is unlikely.
But the desire exists on both sides to have someone special to them in their lives so maybe some SP and Johns are open to finding that from each other. I got my theories but I'm just a horny guy that may be totally wrong.
 

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I would say it happens all to often with both parties.
They are only human and are effected by the same desires that any man or women gets.

Why does any one fall for the person they are dating ..
From older to alot younger. And married to a drug addiction. Bad boy to attics nerd..and every good guy and bad attitude in between.
That just the way man and woman are .
So being a SP and client won't make a big different in the beginning. Weather it's real and can last that what will determine where it goes.

I know a few that are good friends and would partner up with anyone of them in an instant.
 
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hmmm You would be surprised. Sometimes a guy who fits the "dream guy" description walks through the door, and lady might say to herself, "stop dreaming and thinking anything could ever happen, hes probably married/has gf and most likely would never date you and put up with your lifestyle/past etc"...she has to immediately pop those dream bubbles and forget!

SP's are human beings too, you act like they are all money hungry sharks who use pooners like ATM machines. Contrary to popular belief, but most sp's don't think pooners are losers who can't get laid without paying for it. And I'm sure most pooners don't think SP's are worthless bimbos.
Thanks Caramel :clap2: Very well said, and with a punch!! Some of us ( speaking for myself ) choose the life of a bachelor for many reasons. A painted picture is viewed quite differently by every person once analyzed. Not everything goes in a straight line, especially life!!

Oh, and not all of us are " old - bald and fat " like some here portray lol.....and yes, once again, I'm speaking about myself :cool::high5:
 

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Guys with a chip on their shoulder will get bad service.

I am old fat and bald but try to be nice to ladies and usually have a terrific time.
 
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Guys with a chip on their shoulder will get bad service.

I am old fat and bald but try to be nice to ladies and usually have a terrific time.
THIS^^^. Your size, age or hairline do not matter. For better service

- dental hygiene. Brush, floss, whiten
- manscape. No one wants a mouth full of hair.
- scrub during the shower
- clean the crack of your ass
- do NOT jackhammer. Ask first. A woman's cervix needs to be in a specific state of arousal for that
- do not pressure, negotiate or ask for a discount for a good review
- If you want a fantasy that includes name calling like whore, ask first

@Caramel: I'm not saying it's not possible but the real dating & a relationship between a pooner and a working girl is unlikely. Even if the woman might consider something more with a male, she's going to be hesitant. Will he be able to handle her work? If it doesn't work, will he protect her privacy or in anger will he destroy her? And in some cases she may want/demand you (the man) be monogamous. She will separate work sex & intimacy. Can you, as the male, do this? Women pick their men. The men work to demonstrate through actions (more than words) they're sincere. So is it possible? Yes. Is it common? No.

Trust is earned over time.
 

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THIS^^^. Your size, age or hairline do not matter. For better service

- dental hygiene. Brush, floss, whiten
- manscape. No one wants a mouth full of hair.
- scrub during the shower
- clean the crack of your ass
- do NOT jackhammer. Ask first. A woman's cervix needs to be in a specific state of arousal for that
- do not pressure, negotiate or ask for a discount for a good review
- If you want a fantasy that includes name calling like whore, ask first
Thanks for this Warl0ck. This just seems like common sense. I'm sure most SP's could add a few things to this list. It's surprising how many guys just don't get this simple stuff. Treat her like a human being. Sometimes I think there should be a course on this stuff before a guy is allowed to poon.

I have to admit I don't manscape, I'm just old school. But I never ask a woman for a BJ if she's not comfortable with it.
 
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Warl0ck

Thanks for this Warl0ck. This just seems like common sense. I'm sure most SP's could add a few things to this list. It's surprising how many guys just don't get this simple stuff. Treat her like a human being. Sometimes I think there should be a course on this stuff before a guy is allowed to poon.
We used to call it ewww and ouch rule. Anything that made a woman go ewww or made her say ouch was a place you shouldn't go as a pooner.
 

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Guys with a chip on their shoulder will get bad service.

I am old fat and bald but try to be nice to ladies and usually have a terrific time.
W.W..my intention was not to have a chip on my shoulder, per say. I apologize if it did sound that way. I was just referring to a another statement I read, and my initial thought was not to paint every person with the same brush.

Age wise, myself, I'm no spring chicken either. Just saying. And I absolutely agree with you ---- someone with a chip on their shoulder is not a great way to present one self. Totally agree :thumb:
 

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Why does an SP choose to be an SP?

Simple.
It's their only chance to meet and get to have sex with a hot, stud like me. ;)
Um yeah! �� Im surprised more ladies didn't comment on here. As usual, Angel said everything so eloquently. I agree with every aspect she mentioned. I haven't been through some of the personal experiences she did, but for the most part, my reasons were similar. I had the opportunity to have sex! Which I always want anyways, while meeting amazing people, learning so many new concepts, travelling, living without overbearing student loan debt, and hopefully making some gents happy as well. I personally worked in retail during university, the last time around. I was eating ramen and 99 cent pizza. I also developed debilitating muscular and back issues. I wasn't able to stand for long hours essentially. It helped that I could make my own schedule and work as many hours as I wanted without killing myself. People have been so supportive and amazing. This industry has given me so much freedom and opportunity. And I got to meet amazing women like CA. She's amazing. Xo
 

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Wow. Thank you for an exceptional post.
Yes it is a remarkable post and a bit of an eye opener as well can't help but think a conversation over dinner would perhaps be more intriguing than an encounter and a great learning experience.
 

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Bruised egos? What are you getting in about. You think guys don't know the truth? Is anyone gullible enough to think the girl on the other side of the door will develop feeling for them. Of course she's happy to see your ass heading out the door. She's doing what she has to do to pay the bills. Falling in love with cheating married pooners isn't an irresistible urge she has to struggle with.
The extreme stereo typing in this post actually made me laugh.
I'm single...and by choice.
I have become friends with more than one SP.
I'm also not fat or some old loser.
In fact many of their customers are probably better choices to date than many of the non customers.
We do not play the bs bar games lying to women to get into their pants.
Probably have a good income to be able to afford the hobby.
We are at least nice enough to enjoy a lady, not some grumpy anti social jerk who hates everyone.

And much more...

But hey if it makes it easier for you to assume we must all be pathetic then that is your choice.
 
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As I said in Grand Marnier's "Do the math" thread, this is yet another topic that has been beaten to death. SPs' motives for being in the trade are none of our business. If GM really wants to know, he should book an SP and then ask her why she chose this profession. He shouldn't be at all surprised when she tells him to fuck off.
Well, it's a matter of fact, I did ask...

SP 1- My husband left me with 2 kids, my teacher’s salary isn’t cutting it and private schools are expensive. I got into this with a suggestion from one of my colleagues. I do this part time to supplement my income and have met some wonderful people who have become friends over the years.
SP 2- I love sex, I think about it all the time. I can’t possibly get what I want from a monogamous relationship. I have lots of fun doing this. My parents have an open marriage. My dad sometimes goes out and not come home for days partying. My mom is OK with it. That’s the environment I grew up in.
SP 3- I want to go to school but I’m stuck in a low paying job waitressing. What I do isn’t something to be proud of. Guys rate you like a piece of meat and it doesn’t make you feel real good. I do like being taken to places and stay in high end hotels which I normally don’t get to experience. (BTW, lots of SPs says they’re going to school that are far from the truth, not sure why they do that. But this girl is really going to school! I have lots of respect for someone like that)
SP 4- I just went thru a divorce, no passion in my marriage but I find I still have needs. I do this part time along with my regular day job. I require an exhaustive amount of screening because discretion is important to me being a single mom. I found this life fascinating and have met a lots of really nice people. If I found this earlier, I might still be married.
SP 5- I split up with my boyfriend. I’m young and want an active sex life. Going to pick up guys in bars is just too much work and sometime you end up with egotistical assholes. Being an escort really opened up my eyes and it’s nice to be with guys who really knows how to pleasure a girl.
SP 6- I had a boyfriend with a gambling habit. I helped him pay off his debt but it never ends so I finally left him. I’m doing this for myself now trying to build a life but it’s not easy. I’m so naïve I spent a night with a client once, he never paid me and I was too afraid/ ashamed to ask.

There you have it, just from my limited experience. And BTW, nobody told me to fuck off either. Sometimes if you show a genuine interest, you'll be surprised of what can learn from each other and sympathize with what other people are going thru. Happy New Year to all and wish everyone find what they're looking for in 2017.
 

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The extreme stereo typing in this post actually made me laugh.
I'm single...and by choice.
I have become friends with more than one SP.
I'm also not fat or some old loser.
In fact many of their customers are probably better choices to date than many of the non customers.
We do not play the bs bar games lying to women to get into their pants.
Probably have a good income to be able to afford the hobby.
We are at least nice enough to enjoy a lady, not some grumpy anti social jerk who hates everyone.

And much more...

But hey if it makes it easier for you to assume we must all be pathetic then that is your choice.
Agree with everything you say. That guy was the personification of "a guy with a chip on his shoulder".

I have two great friends who are retired sp's. Having dinner with one and her family tomorrow. Had a nice vacation visiting with another and her family last summer. I am single, no need to lie about anything, they have been my friends for many years and know all about me and vice versa.

Some people can make friends, others cannot. Assuming the worst about people doesn't help. On second thought, the ladies are better off keeping someone like that at arm's length.
 

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Well, it's a matter of fact, I did ask...

SP 1- My husband left me with 2 kids, my teacher’s salary isn’t cutting it and private schools are expensive. I got into this with a suggestion from one of my colleagues. I do this part time to supplement my income and have met some wonderful people who have become friends over the years.
SP 2- I love sex, I think about it all the time. I can’t possibly get what I want from a monogamous relationship. I have lots of fun doing this. My parents have an open marriage. My dad sometimes goes out and not come home for days partying. My mom is OK with it. That’s the environment I grew up in.
SP 3- I want to go to school but I’m stuck in a low paying job waitressing. What I do isn’t something to be proud of. Guys rate you like a piece of meat and it doesn’t make you feel real good. I do like being taken to places and stay in high end hotels which I normally don’t get to experience. (BTW, lots of SPs says they’re going to school that are far from the truth, not sure why they do that. But this girl is really going to school! I have lots of respect for someone like that)
SP 4- I just went thru a divorce, no passion in my marriage but I find I still have needs. I do this part time along with my regular day job. I require an exhaustive amount of screening because discretion is important to me being a single mom. I found this life fascinating and have met a lots of really nice people. If I found this earlier, I might still be married.
SP 5- I split up with my boyfriend. I’m young and want an active sex life. Going to pick up guys in bars is just too much work and sometime you end up with egotistical assholes. Being an escort really opened up my eyes and it’s nice to be with guys who really knows how to pleasure a girl.
SP 6- I had a boyfriend with a gambling habit. I helped him pay off his debt but it never ends so I finally left him. I’m doing this for myself now trying to build a life but it’s not easy. I’m so naïve I spent a night with a client once, he never paid me and I was too afraid/ ashamed to ask.

There you have it, just from my limited experience. And BTW, nobody told me to fuck off either. Sometimes if you show a genuine interest, you'll be surprised of what can learn from each other and sympathize with what other people are going thru. Happy New Year to all and wish everyone find what they're looking for in 2017.
I think thats a question most SP's get anyway, usually its genuine curiosity or the client is just trying to make small talk.
 
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