Why do you see escorts? For those of us that are not cheating on our SO.

[johnA27]

The last topic of this turned full blown into people complaining about how their marriage/relationship has turned dead in the bedroom and they're seeking fun elsewhere. I am not judging or attacking those people, all powers to you, its your life. I just want to have a thread about this without this reason, as I am sure there are plenty of us that seek escorts who are not escaping a relationship.

For me, I was a virgin up til my late 20s, where I finally decided to lose it to an escort. I'd always been described as someone who put the lady/lady parts on the pedestal, which probably lead to me not looking for casual sex or hook ups. That, plus excessive pornography consumption made me a bit... weird, to say the least. I mean, other than that, I'd think I am a fairly normal person, a bit chubby but I am trying to work on it. I work an above average paying job, I wouldnt consider myself as socially awkward at all. By all means I think I am a fairly dateable guy. Course, when you work full time, you dont meet many women, and with a shrinking social circle, there isn't many options. Online dating seems to be a total crapshoot, and if you're not in the top 10% of guys by either appearance, or other superfluous qualities, 90% of girls wont be willing to "settle for you".

And thats why I see escorts. Seems like the professionals allow me to not have to try to be someone I am not, and cuts out most of the headache even if you're able to score one night stands, or friends with benefits. The no strings attached nature of this activity is honestly pretty appealing. And it seems like if you're able to look past the fact that sex is fun, and not only about love in a relationship (which you already have if you'd do hook ups, sex on first date, friends with benefits, etc), this activity is great, as long as you take the proper precautions to protect yourself and your partner.

 

[New]

Pretty much the same reason. I work long hours all my life and been working since I was pretty young. Like went 2 years of doing 15-19 hours a day non stop (I remember i did like 350 or 390 hours in some months or something stupid). I still work lots now and most of the girls I meet aren't the girls I am looking for to date. I would say i am an introvert but nowadays don't really care or have problems talking to people anymore.

My perception of relationship is just all bullshit. Many times have i had friends alienate everyone else just because they got a new girl. Or a buddy that just got into a fight and are mad and ignoring each other etc. Been pretty honest in my relationship. I would sit them down and try to work it out instead of doing all the "Ignoring each other" BS. Its just too stressful.

To me sex is just an act, an exercise. Every guy needs it and when it comes to relationship its not cheating if you don't get emotionally attached. I'm still coming home and gonna take care of the girl I love. We all got our views on things but that is mine. A lot of people would not agree with me but I just don't care. That is why I would never get married ever IMO. Not until a girl that actually fits my requirements comes along that is. (Had an open relationship once and that was the most successful of them all)

So here is where I am, dating is just a waste of time. I am at a point in my life where I don't have time for all the games. Seeing escort is just easier, we both know what we're there for. Life is all about experiences, and that is how I see relationships. Working girls always have more interesting things to say or has at least a few great stories to tell from their experiences or from their travels. The girls I meet from the local club or bar is usually always the same boring story. Not to say they are all boring just repetitive. Also the last few trips I took to Asia, I had way more fun finding girls(Some working girls) to travel with than all my buddies that brought their girls.

 

[Warl0ck]

I'm a bit of an anomaly but I only see SP's with my SO (and did in a past relationship). The reasoning was simple; it takes time finding a third party (female) for a threesome. The other reason was that having a third party could mean emotional attachment or some type of drama. I find sessions with your SO are much superior than they are when you're a lone male especially if the SP is fully bisexual. There is a much different dynamic in the session but they are longer & cost substantially more.

When I was a single male, I saw SP's because;

1. No time: I wanted to get laid but had say a 2 hour window. It's not possible to call a FWB or go pick up a woman in that time frame so an SP made sense
2. Laziness. Saturday night, wanting to get laid but no FWB is available & I don't feel like going to a pub.
3. Thrill Seeker. The thrill & risk of outdoor or car dates.

I always liked the thrill of seeking out casual sex with civilian females versus paying for it. Whether it was trying to meet my next FWB (online/whatever) or actually going to a pick up bar & trying to pick up a woman, I liked the game. Yeah, sometimes it ends with you going home empty handed but sometimes you score. And, invariably, scoring with a civilian woman almost always meant hotter sex than what I'd get if I paid for it (excludes as a couple). You can't fake that electricity & lust between two people who meet each other solely for the goal of casual sex.

 

[sevenofnine]

life experience,
hard to explain, im married, but, just felt at a dead end, I wasn't a happy camper,

I needed help, actually even talked to a therapists but it felt wrong, felt like I was helping them, feel good or giving them money or meaning to there life instead of mine,
and part of my issues are sexual my father in jail for rape, etc etc, long story, but never really enjoyed or felt comfortable naked and having sex.

it seemed like, who better to help me then a hooker.

the first time i saw an sp, it was fucking amazing, wow. she was incredible.

the first time i saw the sp i see now, it was awkward as hell actually,
but she said something, she said its ok this is a safe place. and her and me talked, and got naked and fooled around.
still doing it actually.

we have become close and good friends. i think its mutual. she helped me, i helped her feel good about herself.
that was over ten years ago,
i have changed so much in that time,

i think so yeah, life experience good times and a trusted friend, trusted and a dear friend.

 

[87112]

I love the women in my culture (Asian) but being Asian I am kind of outside of the desired demographics to date them. Being non white or black its really hard to hook up with one socially, so seeing them as SPs literally makes me more sane at times.

 

[resercher]

1sober sane sex .
I like to have sex with a woman who is sober and knows how to protect herself and me from STI's .
I also like to have sex with the lights on and being sober. For some reason a lot of people seem to want to have sex in the dark or have taken alcohol or some other drug. To provide them with an excuse for having sex. A good Escort will tend to be much smarter About how to protect themselves and you from STI's .Than whatever I might be able pick up for a one night stand.







2 pick up is bullshit

I also think learning " how to pick up girls is bullshit. In these
"how to pick up girls pick up artist boot camps " That cost around $1000 for a week minimum . Most of the men that attend these things have aspergers syndrome or some other autism spectrum disorder The pick up artist coaches usually send " the future pick up artist " To a night club or bar Which for people with autism spectrum disorders. Is like sticking you in a small room behind an air raid siren going off directly behind you .With a flashing strobe light in your face. and the pick up artist coaches in
In these boot camps tell the "future pick up artist " To do the following

1 don't masturbate - To stop masturbating preserve their " Masculine power" *

2 . pecocking - To do what is known as peacock putting on a flashing belt buckle or a feather boa some other stupid Thing That no sane man would put on for any logical reason unless he was a transvestite performing in a stage show

3 say scripted lines - say stupid weird memorized lines

So you have a man who has denied himself his Olney form of sexual release . With no social skills With repulsive behavior patterns weird Pedantic speech etc Trying to say Memorized lines. Going up to women. 'Who if they are in a night club are expecting to get hit on .With a full erection due to the not masturbating advice Looking like They take fashion advice from Devine from pink flamingos. And men pay for this public humiliation because they think it will get them sex with a playboy bunny or whatever. such bullshit If pick up in a bar is successful it
Is just another form of date rape . I Mentioned I guy used to know called the human pinball that was good at this in another thread



3 marriage and boyfriend girlfriend ownership of a person and slavery I am morally opposed

As I have said before I don't think its a good idea to "get a girlfriend /wife" Just the wording around it tells you it is is ownership of a person . " do you have " A girlfriend /wife I don't want to own anybody and I do not want to have anybody own me As far as i am concerned no matter what the " relationship " is I do not have exclusive rights to a woman body for sex .Or otherwise and she does not have exclusive rights to my body.



4 using the services of an escort is a fair and equal exchange of service without any bullshit.

seeing an escort I purchase a service from her she gets my money and she goes away .
when I see an escort we make an agreement. What I want she provides me with it I give her money and she goes away plus i have my choice as to the type of girl I want to see not just some random girl I happen to "get lucky " with . no Bullshit .


* I know this sounds like i made this up just Google pick up artist masturbation to get any number of video's describing this bullshit .

 

[johnA27]

2 pick up is bullshit

I also think learning " how to pick up girls is bullshit. In these
"how to pick up girls pick up artist boot camps " That cost around $1000 for a week minimum . Most of the men that attend these things have aspergers syndrome or some other autism spectrum disorder The pick up artist coaches usually send " the future pick up artist " To a night club or bar Which for people with autism spectrum disorders. Is like sticking you in a small room behind an air raid siren going off directly behind you .With a flashing strobe light in your face. and the pick up artist coaches in
In these boot camps tell the "future pick up artist " To do the following

1 don't masturbate - To stop masturbating preserve their " Masculine power" *

2 . pecocking - To do what is known as peacock putting on a flashing belt buckle or a feather boa some other stupid Thing That no sane man would put on for any logical reason unless he was a transvestite performing in a stage show

3 say scripted lines - say stupid weird memorized lines

So you have a man who has denied himself his Olney form of sexual release . With no social skills With repulsive behavior patterns weird Pedantic speech etc Trying to say Memorized lines. Going up to women. 'Who if they are in a night club are expecting to get hit on .With a full erection due to the not masturbating advice Looking like They take fashion advice from Devine from pink flamingos. And men pay for this public humiliation because they think it will get them sex with a playboy bunny or whatever. such bullshit If pick up in a bar is successful it
Is just another form of date rape . I Mentioned I guy used to know called the human pinball that was good at this in another thread

I thought people who try to learn PUA stuff arent necessarily the extremely socially inept, and it does work if a guy is some what above average in appearance.

Though thats exactly one of the things I was not willing to do. Plenty of people online have told me to read this book, read that book, watch videos that are 10s of hours in length. I am not willing to spend that amount of time (days, weeks), and like the above poster mentioned, sometimes thousands of dollars in courses, to become the exact type of people I hate. With an SP I am allowed to be myself and tell the truth, without fear of judgement of my character.

 

[uncleg]

For the same reason I don't like to eat the same food everyday.....izza:

 

[MyahriPirgulyyewa]

Your description is fairly accurate. I am an Asian myself (East Asian to be more specific). I have only dated East Asian Women in the past (1 HK girl back in high school, another one was a CBC in university). Current SO originated from West Asia, though grew up in Van. For me, it was at least a chance to try to meet with ladies.

My single Asian friends have trouble finding partner as well. Turns out it is fairly hard to find a partner in Vancouver nowadays (that is according a CTV news report few months ago).

I love the women in my culture (Asian) but being Asian I am kind of outside of the desired demographics to date them. Being non white or black its really hard to hook up with one socially, so seeing them as SPs literally makes me more sane at times.

 

[golferjohn]

Asians males are seen as utter junk in the dating world.

Any idea why? Vancouver seems to have a significant Asian population, so sheer numbers should play in your favor. Sharing a similar cultural mindset would give you a distinct advantage. I could be far off-base, just seems logical that being Asian would be an 'edge' to date a 'goddess'.

 

[Equity Market investor]

Have been single for quite some time ------ and by choice I will add. The reasons why I see Escorts is the opposite as to why I am single.....point form.

--- I like my freedom all around.

---- Mature ladies, a very high degree are unappealing and don't look after themselves. Just go onto P.O. F.

----- I come and go when I want without the hassle or nagging.

------ Dating Woman in this city are either phony, materialistic, jaded to some degree, and always wanting to be on the go go go.

------ Old fashion values seem to be a thing of the past in some sense. Society, Imo, is heading in the opposite direction.

Just naming a few here. That is why I see Escorts.

 

[87112]

Any idea why? Vancouver seems to have a significant Asian population, so sheer numbers should play in your favor. Sharing a similar cultural mindset would give you a distinct advantage. I could be far off-base, just seems logical that being Asian would be an 'edge' to date a 'goddess'.

I am speaking of the scene in Seattle, I have worked countless events where the vast majority of Asian women had white men as dates. These were high end parties from the most successful companies. It got to the point where if I saw an Asian girl with an Asian guy it was maybe out of pity she was dating in her race. It out of this world the amount of Asian women/white dudes. I've talked to some other Asian guys here and we don't even try to chase Asians, pointless.

 

[ddcanz]

For the same reason I don't like to eat the same food everyday.....izza:

Absolutely- a very simple solution and no strings attached.

 

[luvsdaty]

I just don't have the time ,patience or energy to date or chase women anymore.
And why bother when I can see an sp and providing that she's professional, will never try to text me, acknowledge me if we bump into each other or try to drum up business from me when I'm not interested.
And I like the variety without the hassle of a relationship.

 

[johnA27]

I am speaking of the scene in Seattle, I have worked countless events where the vast majority of Asian women had white men as dates. These were high end parties from the most successful companies. It got to the point where if I saw an Asian girl with an Asian guy it was maybe out of pity she was dating in her race. It out of this world the amount of Asian women/white dudes. I've talked to some other Asian guys here and we don't even try to chase Asians, pointless.

I am Asian too and it's a bit of a headache seeing that Asian girls think Asian guys are too boring, timid and by the book for them to date. So much that a lot of girls won't even give us a chance.

Though I really haven't seen an Asian SP yet... I'd much prefer someone who's more westernized and high class, and would rather stay away from the sketchy AMPs that are so popular here...

 

[BaconNeggs]

I was married and a damn good husband.
People warned me before we married not to.
Hell her own mother and sister warned me about her.
Like a fool I believed her lies.
We are divorced and I am single now.
Yes I have dated.
Frankly I don't like it.
So a friend told me that he saw working girls and enjoys it.
So I thought why not and gave it a shot.
Found i truly enjoy this hobby so I keep seeing more.
There has been a few bumps along the road with bad gals.
But mostly positive experiences.
No Bullshit.
I give them cash and done deal.
Very clean and simple.

 

[burcs]

The short and simple version is: NSA sex.

Some of the comments on the derailed topic are cringe worthy. Although there is some merit to what was said, I would gather that those comments were made from selection bias. CBCs will tend to date more white guys than fobs because they've accustomed to the Western culture, but I don't believe they're any less likely to date CBC guys. Fobs or girls with closer attachment to their Eastern culture will almost swear by guys of their own race because others tend to have a harder time understanding their culture, expectation and norms.

 

[Warl0ck]

I am Asian too and it's a bit of a headache seeing that Asian girls think Asian guys are too boring, timid and by the book for them to date. So much that a lot of girls won't even give us a chance.

Though I really haven't seen an Asian SP yet... I'd much prefer someone who's more westernized and high class, and would rather stay away from the sketchy AMPs that are so popular here...

Weird. I always imagined Asian females would be most likely to choose males from their own culture first versus white males.