Why do SPs charge so much in BC?
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But you aren't the one providing the service. Do you go to the mechanic and bitch that it took you an hour to get to his shop? Or complain that the cost of towing your car to his shop should be deducted from the bill? No...
I don't think I would ever 'negotiate' a rate for an SP. First of all, I think it's rude and insulting. You are basically saying you don't think they are worth what they're asking. Secondly, as in my previous analogy, a normal person wouldn't go to a mechanic and negotiate his rate. The rate is what it is. If you aren't willing to pay it, move on.
Different strokes for different folks. Some guys think a piece of ass is a piece of ass is a piece of ass. Others look for something specific and are willing to pay for it. For me, I have to be attracted to the girl for it to be an experience I am willing to pay for. There is a certain dynamic I look for and just dipping my wick and leaving isn't it. If that's all you require, then good luck to you.
For one thing, such a provider will no doubt be on time and available for the prebooked scheduled appt. She will have arranged the booking personally, no 3rd party, and she is unlikely to provide a last minute substitute in her place (a la bait and switch). She is more likely to be selective that who she sees is more likely to connect. A lower rate (given that sp has the same kind of overall expenses), is under more pressure to see more, be more rushed. She is more likely to have fallen asleep, forgotten, or double booked, or be tired and just turn off the phone in spite of clients on their way to see her.
It isn't like you lump all sps into one basket, and in the rinse cycle all should come out charging 200/hr, to average it all out. Its like saying all the car manufacturers should price all the styles, makes and models exactly the same, regardless of the costs involved in creating it. You see these kind of one rate for all sps out east and frankly the quality suffers. The quantity is there, and possibly the looks, youth etc is there at that under 250/hr rate, but the burnout is high, and the lack of interest is high, and the flaking out on appts is high, and the double booking is high, and the turnover is really high. Find someone cool to see? Chances are within 6 months she'll be gone cuz the cost of working is just too high for so little reward, after everyone else gets their cut. The feigned enthusiasm, is also really high. I would assume by this time most people understand the Eastern European sex worker is often working under similar duress.
A high rate client has the money to see a high rate escort. That's his fetish, if you will, showing such a woman who charges a lot that he has a lot. Like a teenager with a fancy car, he uses it to impress, show off, whatever. He doesn't book half hours, he does multiple hours. He would not drive a Honda, obviously.
Most higher rate escorts have no trouble finding their clients, and no trouble getting their rate without renegotiation, as suggested. A really disgusting method of seeing sps, if you ask me, if you don't like the rate call the next ad. What kind of person would try to negotiate a lower rate with an already lower rate sp.
Except that currently wouldn't happen because most women couldn't survive the costs of doing business at a lower rate without running AMP-style. What all the men who bitch about prices should be doing, instead of bitching about prices, is lobbying for improved prostitution laws that make this business less of a financial and social risk for the female.
Exactly right IMHO
Sure you can get lower priced SP's but also lower quality too. The ambience of the whole scene does count. Not something I would do but a female putting up candles, darkening the room to the correct level, burning incense, playing music that doesn't make me think WTF while in the act means a lot to me.
Personally, I would want to visit low volume SP's who wants to offer an upscale service where the pooner leaves with rubber legs and a huge smile on their face. I never want to realize that I was the eighth guy to do DATY on an SP on any given day. That would make me want to reevaluate this hobby at least the oral side of it.
I started out as a price point kind of guy but now want to savour what would be totally unattainable unless I paid for it. Being able to converse on a wide variety of subjects before or after is the icing on the cake that makes me want to repeat. Assuming of course the main course was stellar.
before i started this hobby,
i looked at the price and said are you kidding 200 dollars an hour for laying on your back enjoying the attentions of some guy. your out of your mind,
after i have been in this for awhile, sex trade workers deserve every penny and more,
its not all that easy, to be an sp, it surly is not for everyone and i would imagine there are alot of bad days,
and there in a high risk profession, disease abuse stress violence etc
but just to look at the economics, sure an sp can make alot of money. and i mean a hell of alot of money.
but i am part of the system, i worked at a job for thirty plus years, six months after i started work i got full benifits, from that moment on i could have walked and never worked again, stress leave work mans comp sick, and i would still have a paycheck coming in thirty years latter.
full benifits plus various pension plans i could have like i said six months in, been on work mans comp forever or stress leave etc,
what does an sp do if she is stressed out, bad back burned out. or just gets sick
i had cancer was off work for a year, never missed a pay check,
what doe an sp do if she goes to the doc and he finds a lump on her breast one day.
i have a pension plan worth well over a million bucks. plus canada pension
and old age security.
my sp doesn't even qualify for canada pension.
for sure if you look at things short term, yeah its alot of money,
but if you look long term is it really,
i looked at the price and said are you kidding 200 dollars an hour for laying on your back enjoying the attentions of some guy. your out of your mind,
after i have been in this for awhile, sex trade workers deserve every penny and more,
its not all that easy, to be an sp, it surly is not for everyone and i would imagine there are alot of bad days,
and there in a high risk profession, disease abuse stress violence etc
but just to look at the economics, sure an sp can make alot of money. and i mean a hell of alot of money.
but i am part of the system, i worked at a job for thirty plus years, six months after i started work i got full benifits, from that moment on i could have walked and never worked again, stress leave work mans comp sick, and i would still have a paycheck coming in thirty years latter.
full benifits plus various pension plans i could have like i said six months in, been on work mans comp forever or stress leave etc,
what does an sp do if she is stressed out, bad back burned out. or just gets sick
i had cancer was off work for a year, never missed a pay check,
what doe an sp do if she goes to the doc and he finds a lump on her breast one day.
i have a pension plan worth well over a million bucks. plus canada pension
and old age security.
my sp doesn't even qualify for canada pension.
for sure if you look at things short term, yeah its alot of money,
but if you look long term is it really,
Oh I agree........especially with Montreal, many reasons for everything in general costing less.
But when people try to do silly calculations showing how they are getting ripped off.........SHOULD get their own subtraction correct.
Few things:
- When I moved away from Montreal, my huge 3 bdroom was $670/month.
- I'm living in a 2 bdroom now in Vancouver and rent is more than $1750.
3 bedroom is waaaay more than $1750.
- There are sp's who charge $300/hr in Montreal
- There are sp's who charge $200/hr in Vancouver
- Most of the sought-after agencies & girls in Montreal are outcall.
Which means that if you're married, live with your SO or have to be discrete, you're getting a hotel room for that outcall. This means that in the end, your outcall sp is close to or over $300/hr but part of it goes to the hotel instead of the sp if you were paying for incall.
I agree that SP's should charge what they want. If you think its too much don't go see them. If their rates are too high the majority will stop seeing them and they will either quit the biz or drop their rate to something more reasonable. Simple supply and demand. Look what happened in Alaska some time ago. All the pooners got together and refused to see any SP over a certain price. Rates came down quickly.
Having said that, I don't agree that higher rates means you will get a higher class SP. I have played at both ends of the spectrum, and almost every high priced escort I've visited was not worth the extra money.
Having said that, I don't agree that higher rates means you will get a higher class SP. I have played at both ends of the spectrum, and almost every high priced escort I've visited was not worth the extra money.
This is usually the inevitable conclusion these kind of threads come to except for the price collusion part. Wake me up when it's over, zzzzzzz!
One encouraging sign is that nobody seems to give a toss about what union rep has to say anymore. Perhaps because she has become so predictable...
AGHHHHHH My ears!
I will pack my own iPod and earplugs just in case.
But seriously, comparing Montreal vs Vancouver at this moment in time is totally wrong. Montreal's industries are way down right now with high unemployment and the vacancy rate of commercial buildings is at an all time high. People are hurting and there is not a lot of extra $$ to spend on luxuries such as pooning. Vancouver's employment rate is lower, well paying jobs around and cost of living is much higher. Can't see and apples to apples comparison on that issue at all.
I know there are a lot of factors, but doesn't it come down to what sort of financial capacity the clients have to hire with? I understand that being able to afford something doesn't make a person willing to buy it, but I do know that it is not uncommon for people to look for escorts that charge at the top end of the price range for Vancouver. The general idea is that the high cost per hour will provide you with a girl who is going to be professional, attractive, exclusive, and independent. I would think that if this was not affordable to the clients that do this, they would go with the most expensive girl within their budget.. so if 350 an hour becomes unaffordable to enough men in Vancouver that it was no longer possible for a girl to charge that rate and see clients, the highest rate a girl could charge would go down to reflect the top end of what was affordable to the high end hiring clients?
I ask because there has been talk of supply and demand being part of why the rates in Vancouver are higher.. but I am under the impression that for many of the clients I saw, even if there were twice as many escorts in Vancouver and they charged 200 an hour for typical service, they would prefer to hire girls that charged 300+ because they can and they feel more comfortable doing so.
I ask because there has been talk of supply and demand being part of why the rates in Vancouver are higher.. but I am under the impression that for many of the clients I saw, even if there were twice as many escorts in Vancouver and they charged 200 an hour for typical service, they would prefer to hire girls that charged 300+ because they can and they feel more comfortable doing so.
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Grope, your comparison is not very useful. It makes more sense to compare percentage of income spent on rent.
If we do that with your figures, the two groups come out almost equal ~20%, which falls well within the North American guideline for affordable housing (30%)
If we do that with your figures, the two groups come out almost equal ~20%, which falls well within the North American guideline for affordable housing (30%)
They don't. We have good balance of supply and demand, in all price brackets, and all location options.
Just sayin, look around, and make your selection. Stop griping and go get some.
Just sayin, look around, and make your selection. Stop griping and go get some.
i think its been pointed out that some sps charge more simply because they want to be lower volume.
have you ever thought that an sp charges more because men that can afford her might be generally better clients.
im not saying that rich guys are better lovers or rich guys can't be assholes and pricks.
but stand out side wallmart in a low income part of town, tell me what you think,
its a well known fact the richer you are you tend to be healther, better educated, personal hygiene is better, just as a general rule, there are exceptions. more cultured, etc etc,
sure as hell rich people can have issues and problems same as everyone.
but sps aren't really all that interested in your personal problems.
there main issues are do you stink when your laying on top of them and are you grossly over weight.
have you ever thought that an sp charges more because men that can afford her might be generally better clients.
im not saying that rich guys are better lovers or rich guys can't be assholes and pricks.
but stand out side wallmart in a low income part of town, tell me what you think,
its a well known fact the richer you are you tend to be healther, better educated, personal hygiene is better, just as a general rule, there are exceptions. more cultured, etc etc,
sure as hell rich people can have issues and problems same as everyone.
but sps aren't really all that interested in your personal problems.
there main issues are do you stink when your laying on top of them and are you grossly over weight.
For me, I agree with you somewhat that the hotties from Montreal do seem to come from another planet when it comes to their idea of having fun in the bedroom as in OMG. However, the beautiful ladies of Van are tops in GFE. :nod:
