Why do clients do this?

[BlueBells]

Today I'm sitting at my desk feverishly answering phones and browsing through perb when a gentleman phones, he listens to the descriptions inquires as to whether his chosen lady is openminded to kissing/edible, I carefully answer YMMV, but yes. So we make the appt, he shows up early (just as her previous client is leaving) I'm like quick in there to preserve discresion(spllg??) He stands at the stairs and gawks up!!! I had to push, pull & drag the mofo to the spare downstairs room!!! Then the race was on for me & the girl to clean the room and for her to get ready, but its all good and the call starts. Afterward, she tells me he had a small but not healed coldsore in the corner of his mouth and a rash spreading over his upper legs & groin, needless to say she did NOT kiss him or allow him to perform daty, and was very careful to not touch his skin during the cbj (no fs) and showered immediately after. My question is why did he come in in that kind of physical state? Makes no sense to me, a waste of coin, considering what he wanted, with a mouth sore of any kind, no one would have given him?

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

rude & careless

I have reinstated on my website that gents are:

free of STDs & other contagious annoyances. I used to have skin issues listed. Most of us assume this is a given, but it isn't as written above.

Nothing creepier than scabs & red, flakey skin or athletes foot so bad that the brown/green rot, smells

 

[Cock Throppled]

Another question - Why did she not tell him to leave rather than complete the service if his physical condition was suspect?

 

[Storm]

Easy enough answer: Greed.

Originally posted by Cock Throppled
Another question - Why did she not tell him to leave rather than complete the service if his physical condition was suspect?

 

[Cock Throppled]

Actually, that's a question for all the ladies. Just how fungus-laden, rotted, cold-sored, rashy, smelly and pus-y does a client have to be to be turned away? And here I was, worried if I had a hole in my sock.

 

[muffdiver]

Ya, sounds to me like it could be that the little head was thinking before the big head syndrone. It works both ways , i don't know how many times iv'e made appointments with sp's looking forward to some muffdiving and low and behold the smell just turns me off. But it's not cool to show up with any kind of sores or rashes, may as well have stayed home and spanked the monkey himself.

 

[Storm]

Sad, but true.

Some people will lie, cheat, steal, even murder if they could get away with it to get ahead. People like that better steer the hell away from me. I've had enough of that BS for a lifetime.

Ever seen Falling Down ? Lately feels like I'm walking that line.

Originally posted by westwoody
He probably doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself. Don't bother trying to explain safety concerns to him, he doesn't care. He's going to do what he feels like doing and forget about what anybody else thinks about anything. There's lots of people-male and female-like that in the world.

 

[personalmale]

Post this on the door of the studio.

It has the added advantage that LE might actually believe that said MP is "engaged" in a sanctioned activity. I was shocked how many girls that I dated were unfamiliar with the popular sport of "couch rugby" up until dating me *W*

FOR USA WRESTLING NATIONALS and REGIONALS

1. Tournament Physician and Medical Coordinator have final approval of clearance to compete. Physician’s release by any other physician will be considered in the medical check process but is not a guarantee.

2. Any rash or lesion that appears infectious as determined in Medical Check must be covered by an occlusive dressing and must remain in place during entire bout. IF ATHLETE REPORTS TO MAT WIHOUT APPROVED COVERING, they will use injury time ONLY to get it covered. Mat officials will be notified on bout card by yellow highlight if lesion must be covered.

3. Areas of the body that cannot be covered are around the lips, within the scalp or on chin.

4. Any lesion that appears to be Herpes Gladiatorum in early onset stage is not cover-able unless wrestler has been on oral medication for over 72 hours. This is because “normal” cells can slough off the virus that causes Herpes G.

5. Please refer to illustrations of infectious lesions, if you have concerns. Infectious lesions generally have a regular border. Not all fungal lesions are contagious.

6. Shaving over lesions will only spread the infections and will not result in clearance to compete. Use of Bleach over lesions will cause very serious chemical burns and should never be done. Most Ringworm lesions under the skin are unaffected by “ bleaching”.

7. Multiple lesion sites on the body indicate systematic problem and will not be cleared to compete regardless if they are covered.

8. Rapid aggressive medical management of lesions is the best recourse. Do not hesitate when redness and itching occur.

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

maybe

Easy enough answer: Greed.

but I doubt it......more like not wanting to offend the gentleman and/or not knowing how to politely ask him to leave.

 

[yogi]

Doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. There are assholes out there knowingly spreading AIDS.

But I'm even more concerned that he wasn't shown the door upon revealing himself. This doesn't sound like an agency I want to patronize. They should place the safety of SPs & clients above anything else, above profits or the risk of offending some clueless lowlife.

 

[hornydude]

Obvious answer

The obvious answer is that this man had malevolant intent...ie. he wished to spread herpes (which is what a cold sore is...only difference between oral and genital is location!) through daty....whatever the rash was through skin to skin contact.

The most obvious explanation is usually the correct one...

In cases like these, people overlook the obvious because it is extremely unsettling.

If he specifically asked about daty and dfk and had these symptoms, and if you make the mental leap to see things from the "bent" perspective of a sick mind, you will probably conclude I am correct.

Your girl should have shown him the door for everyone's benefit.

 

[donnyknotts]

this is a big concern

It is unacceptable for a reputable agency to continue a session if a client has an obvious condition of any sort. Although it isn't foolproof, it should be clear that any condition that affects the dermis can allow the transmission of dangerous pathogens much more easily than intact skin. I would be concerned about seeing anyone at this service provider.

Both parties in this case exercised extremely poor judgement. It is also unacceptable that anyone in that condition would to attempt to see a service provider.

Being greedy and/or horny is not a good enough excuse.

 

[hotcougar65]

I say let's not drag the whole agency into question. One lady with greed does not reflect on the way all the ladies conduct themselfs. If Blueballs did not come forward with this question I would feel that the agency is ready and willing to put people at risk. I would have this lady and the rest of the staff informed that these type of clients are not welcome.

 

[Massagegirl]

Ya sure, all ladies should ask these already-malevolent, twice-our-size guys to leave, thereby risking some retribution, either to their safety, discretion and/or a nasty write up on perb. Then when the lady speaks up and says "you're only slagging me cuz you had a disease and I refused you service", she can get shit on yet again by you lot... damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The girl did the right thing here, she gave him the service she could without risking anything! It's called compromise. To call it greed is crass and hypocritical. He who lives in a glass house, shouldn't throw stones.

Would any of you like to be denied service cuz you had a pimple, or an allergic reaction? Hard to tell the difference!

The only way you know you have nothing is to never have sex! Everyone who does is suspect, signs or no signs, for 2 years after their last encounter, I'd say. Only diligent care, with condoms, lube and washing after with soap and warm water is going to partially gaurantee you safety. I did hear there is a new injection for immunization against herpes which is cool, but I don't think it's available here yet.

PS I applaud advance notice like Gina gives, so there are no hurt feelings as warning was given ahead of time, but agencys inspecting the customers before they go in(which is how it would have to be done) is ridiculous, and wouldn't even happen in Nevada with their strict regulations on safety.

Sorry, life's a bitch.

 

[zennrocks]

yuck

thats disgusting ... i'm always paranoid that i'm unattractive, not a nice person, body odor ... but man ... i wouldn't jerk myself off if i had that going on .... grrrrroooooosssssss

the only place you should SHARE ... in on here ... i really feel sorry for the NEXT GUY (it could be any of us)

z

 

[big_daddy]

the thing is your girl should have kicked him out that gets messy but so do the other things that he may have

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

& we learned from this.......

Overall consensus says it is the SPs responsibility to ask the naked gentleman to get dressed, leave calmly, part way thru his session, after he has been told he has an STD/ skin issue that she isn't comfortable with. Reassuring him he gets a full rebate during small talk, while hes dressing.

Fact: every SP I know has been put in an uncomfortable situation in regards to hygiene & graciously deals with it as best she can. I know some toot-your-own- horn-blowers are going to show up & say, not me and Atlantis has risen on Sunday.

Lets not contort this topic & witch hunt the agency, no no no. Lets make it known that this is unacceptable, even though its common sense to most of us here.

I have asked a gent to leave. Nothing easy about it. I get asked often about safety/STDs & I reassure people that I am tested regularly & simply don't offer higher risk activities. If a gent is overly concerned with safety I tell him that he may not be suited for this hobby.(how can he relax & enjoy it) We can merry go round the topic, sugar coat it all we wish, but we all know the truth.

Ohhh the fantasy, lets not lose sight of it with an example of 1 few & far between experiences.

 

[hardup]

Easy enough answer: Greed.

That's a little crass




This girl did her best under the circumstances....I agree that we all would have prefered that she tell him to hit the bricks...but...here's a guy who obviously didn't give a sh*t for her well being in a room with a young lady who was most likely in a very vulnerable position.....I don't think *greed* had much to do with it. I think she probably did what she could to get this guy out the door without a big scene. It takes a low class mofo to put a girl in that position....I feel bad for her

 

[Storm]

Crass...

Because I did not tip-toe around the #1 reason girls are in this? If so then it is.

Believe what you want Hardup. Maybe if the girl is newer she didn't know how to handle herself, but if she's been in this biz' for awhile there are many things she could say to the guy to get him to leave w/o causing a problem. Yes, there are good SPs and bad SPs, but all BS aside they're in this for the money. Plain and simple. I know a lot of you are going to jump all over me for saying this. You're entitled to your opinion just as I through experience am entitled to mine.

Originally posted by hardup
That's a little crass

I understand Gina I know there are some really bad clients out there and I feel for you. It's a real shame.

Originally posted by Gina Lee
I have asked a gent to leave. Nothing easy about it. I get asked often about safety/STDs & I reassure people that I am tested regularly & simply don't offer higher risk activities. If a gent is overly concerned with safety I tell him that he may not be suited for this hobby.(how can he relax & enjoy it) We can merry go round the topic, sugar coat it all we wish, but we all know the truth.

I'd say a lot more, but there's no point. I've seen how many on perb crucify someone when they say something negative about SPs. So in closing... have a nice day.

 

[hardup]

I'd say a lot more, but there's no point. I've seen how many on perb crucify someone when they say something negative about SPs. So in closing... have a nice day.

When It's warranted or if I've no experience in the matter....I'm as quiet as a mouse....and you're right, most are there for the coin, hell who would be there for minimum wage?????????

BUT .... there's a limit to what people will do for money......... have you ever seen Kingpin I'd live on the street first LOL