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Why Canada is smart of have supply management for dairy industry

sybian

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I was on a holiday when this thread started, and I had too follow it silently....which drove me crazy btw.

First of all there are so many inaccuracies in some of these comments, it would take me hours to type out, as I have farmer fingers.
Here are some major ones This gravel cruncher would like to point out, to you pavement dwellers.

Chicken quota hovers around 100 dollars a bird.
Quota is a permit, not a subsidy FFS. It ensures a supply to the market, that will at least pay for cost of production.
Yes it is overpriced in some aspects, so you have to have a few bucks to get into the business.
Instead of pointing the finger at nice clean well run farms, that incidentally produce the food your putting in your bodies , maybe we should consider who else produces that food.
Now.....what nobody wants to talk about is the chain of supply that pays for the hundreds of thousands of people that work in the before and after processing of that product.
The processing plant employees are making a very good living wage....with benefits, and that's not the case in the U.S.
That food product is supplied on a constant basis, to keep everyone employed in the processing end of things.
There is no dramatic overproduction, then crash of supply like the States....instead of a 58 % part time employment structure, we have a 87 % full time employment rate....at three times the wage.
Nobody wants to talk about the retailer that marks up a product 100 to 250 percent, instead the point the finger at the farmer....or the CFIA meat inspector making 85 thousand a year...with benefits.
Canada runs a tight ship when it comes to food quality, and is considered the best in the world by some....and that costs money to manage.
If you want cheap Frankenfood, go across the border and buy it, nobody is stopping you....and for the record, I don't make a dime using the quota system.
Funny thing is half the farmers in Washinton, that are shutting their doors on their family dairy farms, say they wish they had our system.
As far as exporting goes, the quota system is set up to supply the population with a constant quality food source, creating a reliable product that employs hundreds of thousands....its set up too not have overproduction, and price fluctuations. If overproduction was too happen, the industry will self adjust by exporting to foreign markets....although egg,milk and chicken is exported to other provinces within Canada, but it's discouraged by the marketing boards.
Basically, if everyone gets in when times are good, and there's no control, the shit you don't want in your own markets, gets sent out of country, which is why the US is staring down their sights at our markets, and attacking the supply management system.


On a side note....it's good to be back.
 

sybian

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Welcome back Sybian and it is good to see another person come down on the side of sanity in regards to supply management.

JD
Not being able to comment in this thread drove me insane.....The Farmer, who has the product for the longest, makes very little when it comes to the pricing, the outfits who have it for the least amount of time, make the most.
There was a time when the guy driving the egg truck to the packaging plant for no investment on his part....was making more than the guy who owned the barns with the laying hens.
That was in the sixties.....times have changed.
 

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I would take mild issue with the statement at the end of the article that "overproduction" is "the underlying cause".


The more likely underlying cause of the decline of the U.S. dairy industry has been poor government policy.


Just imagine a dairy begun in the 1930's or so... doing steady business for 70 or 80 years... wonderful to their customers, and their customers loyal in return.

Then, one day in the 2000's... entirely because of U.S. government policy, the dairy faces the following options:


A. Either give-up the hands-on dairy/milk-producing part of the business OR give-up the distribution straight to the consumers part of the business.


OR (as the only alternative to A)


B. Produce your milk as you have since the 1930's, then sell it to the U.S. Government at a pre-determined price... then buy it back from the same U.S. Government at a price they determine for eventual distribution to the same customer chain.


Those were the complete options for authentic, died-in-the-wool dairy businesses which operated for decades seeing the product all the way from cow to consumer.

These people didn't do anything wrong, and that's what they got.


Some ceased the dairy end... others ceased the distribution end... and many are seeing THE end as a result.
 

sybian

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When you go too Lynden Washington , there is a giant stack that you can see from most parts of town, with steam belching from it.
It's from a milk dehydration plant, that produces milk powder.
It's products include.... These figures vary from year to year, depending on demand.
Milk powder for human consumption, roughly 20%, this includes baby formula, and commercial binders for further processing.
Milk powder for animal consumption,roughly 18 % this includes binders for feeds in hog and poultry, milk replacer for calves, and some dog food....there is some speculation that it's used in dairy feed as well. ( remember BSE or mad cow disease....The US denies to this day that they have never had a case from using beef fat products in dairy feed as a binder...yet they've had dozens of human deaths, the transfer of the spongiform was from beef fat, and not butter fat, but I'll pass thanks)
The remaining 60+ % depending on demand is used for fertilizer, which wreaks of gross overproduction, waste, and a greedy economy, due to the fact that this isn't contaminated product.

There's just too much of it to consume....so an otherwise consumable product.....is spread to rot into the ground, to grow more grass, to produce more milk, for more cows.
Meanwhile they point their arrogant finger at us....demanding we as a self sustaining nation, that actually produces a healthy product, to open our borders to their product... that they otherwise treat like shit.
 
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