Recently there has been a rash of accusations regarding SP attacking other SP's about their rates. Which SP would be doing such things and why? Could it be an effort to try to keep inflated prices up? When SP's are in their own ladies only chat room do they conspire to keep rates high?
Who would do such a thing?
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I've never heard of any conspiring to keep rates high, Mister.
There are so many reasons why an SP might charge what is considered a "high rate":
1. People will pay it
2. She thinks she's worth that much and won't work for less
3. She only works part time
etcetera
I mean, if I wanted to see 5 clients a day, I would charge $150 an hour. But I don't want to see that many. I'm a student, so I do escorting on the side. Perberts have tried to tell me that if I charged less I'd have "so much work." But not all of us want to work full time. And some women have "regular" jobs as well as escorting.
The women doing this work just figure out how much they want to work, and how much they can get.
That's why you'll see women who are equally beautiful and provide similar services, charging different rates.
There are so many reasons why an SP might charge what is considered a "high rate":
1. People will pay it
2. She thinks she's worth that much and won't work for less
3. She only works part time
etcetera
I mean, if I wanted to see 5 clients a day, I would charge $150 an hour. But I don't want to see that many. I'm a student, so I do escorting on the side. Perberts have tried to tell me that if I charged less I'd have "so much work." But not all of us want to work full time. And some women have "regular" jobs as well as escorting.
The women doing this work just figure out how much they want to work, and how much they can get.
That's why you'll see women who are equally beautiful and provide similar services, charging different rates.
jayzus! every frickin second post on perb is a complaint/conspiracy about sp's and their rates ... if you have time to complain about it then use that time constructively and get a fricken job so you can afford those rates and let this moronic topic die once and for all!
its one thing to pay $200 and have a terrible time ... that's called a 'review' ... that's the 'R' in perb! that's why we're here.
its another thing to just complain about $200 rates ... no one cares.
(blame this on a stale cheezie ... it was a great moment but now i'm paying for it ... )
its one thing to pay $200 and have a terrible time ... that's called a 'review' ... that's the 'R' in perb! that's why we're here.
its another thing to just complain about $200 rates ... no one cares.
(blame this on a stale cheezie ... it was a great moment but now i'm paying for it ... )
Harassment
I have heard of SP's who are actually e-mailing or even phoning other ladies who are advertising lower rates. I bring this up because in addition to what some have said directly to me, there was also a post along these lines on CL today. I am NOT bitching about high prices and I have enough money to kick it with any SP for as many hours as I care to. I just think the fact that if SP's are free to set their own prices why do some seem to have a problem with ladies who have decided they wish to market their services at a lower rate?
I have heard of SP's who are actually e-mailing or even phoning other ladies who are advertising lower rates. I bring this up because in addition to what some have said directly to me, there was also a post along these lines on CL today. I am NOT bitching about high prices and I have enough money to kick it with any SP for as many hours as I care to. I just think the fact that if SP's are free to set their own prices why do some seem to have a problem with ladies who have decided they wish to market their services at a lower rate?
Could this be another "Keira Crofton thread" (best thread of all time BTW)? I think I'm gonna sit back, grab some popcorn, and enjoy this threadMister said:I have heard of SP's who are actually e-mailing or even phoning other ladies who are advertising lower rates. I bring this up because in addition to what some have said directly to me, there was also a post along these lines on CL today. I am NOT bitching about high prices and I have enough money to kick it with any SP for as many hours as I care to. I just think the fact that if SP's are free to set their own prices why do some seem to have a problem with ladies who have decided they wish to market their services at a lower rate?
.It's pretty sad if those ladies have so much time on their hands that they are phoning and emailing other ladies. Maybe they should just focus on their own business and enjoying what life has to offer.
LG, you are so right on this one. I'm sick and tired of you cheap fucks who complain about the rates paid. Some of you even complain that $140 is too much for an AMP. Think about what she is doing for you.... she is providing you with sex, something that is not a product you buy off the shelf and is a unique and sacred act only a woman can give. Think about the constant risks to her health and why she should be rightly compensated. Think about the fact that she probably has no other worthwhile skills that can provide her with a decent living. Think about whether or not you would give blow jobs to all the stinky clients for a mere $140 each.LonelyGhost said:
If you can't afford it, then get a fucking job or stop your hobby. It's a hobby after all, and totally by choice - not a necessity of life. It's unethical for you to complain. These rates are actually cheap by North American standards, and are cheap historically too (typical massage parlor rates were $300 for FS ten years ago).
Your right about that, I remember paying $150 for a nude reverse hand job 20 years ago.georgebushmoron said:
no kidding ... these guys should go back to the dating scene where a friggin dinner and a movie will cost almost as much as 30 minutes of guarenteed zoom-time with some young hottie!georgebushmoron said:
christ, the rates sp's charge are worth it just to forgo the fucking bitching that comes out of some women whom I have dated!!!!!!!!
thank god for 90% of the sp's out there!
I really shouldn't be keeping this alive, but oh well. I should probably preface this bramble by saying that I personally couldn't care less what an SP charges: it's her business and body and she can conduct it as she sees fit and is comfortable with. If she's out of my budget, I just move on (and masturbate to her pictures at home ).
It didn't read to me like Mister was complaining; it seemed like he was asking a question in regards to SP's attacking SP's. I have read in a previous thread about SP's making appointments with other SP's, especially visitors from another city, with the purpose of filling up the visitors time slots and killing off her business with no shows. More recently, Amber Lynn on CL posted a reply stating that she was getting nasty emails from other SP's complaining about her undercutting their business with her lower rates.
Can she charge whatever she wants? Yes. Can the other SP's charge what they want? Of course. But trying to sabotage another SP's business or coerce her into charging what other SP's think is appropriate is not right, regardless. I think that is the issue Mister was trying to get at.
This is assuming, of course, that these allegations are true. I have no way of asserting accuracy or fraudulance. They could just be a load of paranoid bullshit.
I'll take my aluminium foil hat off now.
).It didn't read to me like Mister was complaining; it seemed like he was asking a question in regards to SP's attacking SP's. I have read in a previous thread about SP's making appointments with other SP's, especially visitors from another city, with the purpose of filling up the visitors time slots and killing off her business with no shows. More recently, Amber Lynn on CL posted a reply stating that she was getting nasty emails from other SP's complaining about her undercutting their business with her lower rates.
Can she charge whatever she wants? Yes. Can the other SP's charge what they want? Of course. But trying to sabotage another SP's business or coerce her into charging what other SP's think is appropriate is not right, regardless. I think that is the issue Mister was trying to get at.
This is assuming, of course, that these allegations are true. I have no way of asserting accuracy or fraudulance. They could just be a load of paranoid bullshit.
I'll take my aluminium foil hat off now.
Now that was funny! I'll be watching for your posts SY and looking for more laughs - thanks bud.sheik yerbouti said:
I wouldn't put it past some to try to intimidate others in the biz. It's only natural to some extent. Perfectly normal question. But. When you say there's been a "rash of accusations", maybe you could go so far as to quote the source? Where did you see these accusations?Mister said:
Not sure why you went so far as to type this last line though:
That goes way beyond the intimidation of others slant and face-first into blatant paranoid conspiracy theory.Mister said:
Some people complain about 140 others about 300, when in the real world, if you take someone out for dinner, 3, 4, 10 times and then maybe get something out of it? How much is that SP charging? Women are all Sp's in their own way. There should be more Amber Lynns of CL, just out to make a buck. If other SP's are so appalled by this and try to undermine this type of pricing, perhaps they should be reassessing their own fees, instead of worrying about someone else's. Perhaps the "overpriced" SP's are worth every penny, but they are like golf, for rich people only. We blue collar working class types want all the bang for the buck we can get and afford. So, quit the in-fighting, stick to your niche, and charge what ever you like! Last I checked, the price of coke hasn't risen...
That was a wayward ramble, but I hope I got some sort of point accross.
That was a wayward ramble, but I hope I got some sort of point accross.
best thread ever
On that note.....Keira Crofton / Haley is back in the Vancourier again......anyone want to TOFTT???
On that note.....Keira Crofton / Haley is back in the Vancourier again......anyone want to TOFTT???
logic is crap
u should get paid for what you're worth not ecause u want to work lessHollybaby said:
Business and Choice
If an SP charges a higher rate that is her perogative, and can be based on a number of factors, the one mentioned here being exclusivity. And that can be a valued service in many industries.
Consider airlines. Personally I would love to fly first class where ever possible, but I cannot afford to do so. I would fly first class because of the fact that there is better service, and less people. In that case the exclusivity of the service warrents a high cost. And the higher cost is used to restrict the access to the service. For those who can afford the service, and desire the exclusivity, the higher price is worth it. Now do the rest of us sitting back in cattle class with our knees at our ears feel slighted? In some respects yes. But do we have the right to complain to the airlines and say you shouldn't be able to have a first class? Not really. Do the first class passengers have the right to complain about the price? Again, not really. They are paying for a service and they are making a choice that the price is worth it.
Now if you pay for a first class ticket and get what you consider to be substandard service, you have the choice to complain, and or not re-use that airline. Again, consumer choice in a free market. Is it ethically wrong for the airline to charge a higher rate? It's a business! They can charge what they like!
Finally I think the point of the thread was about whether SPs are complaining to each other about prices. I refer you to the analogy of airlines again. Remember Laker? Remember Virgin? They all complained about BAs business practice. Its a fact of life that there will be competition and bad practice. It's another reality of business. Some people are more sanguine than others. Does it suck? Completely. But it will probably continue on any place that there is competition and money involved...
All this talk about rates constantly amuses me. Whether a lady has the right to charge what she likes, and whether she is worth it are two very seperate things. In a free(ish) market all businesses and services have the right to set whatever rate they like, and consumers have the right to either accept the rate or look elsewhere. Price fixing is unfair on consumers but also an inevitable side of life.necko said:
If an SP charges a higher rate that is her perogative, and can be based on a number of factors, the one mentioned here being exclusivity. And that can be a valued service in many industries.
Consider airlines. Personally I would love to fly first class where ever possible, but I cannot afford to do so. I would fly first class because of the fact that there is better service, and less people. In that case the exclusivity of the service warrents a high cost. And the higher cost is used to restrict the access to the service. For those who can afford the service, and desire the exclusivity, the higher price is worth it. Now do the rest of us sitting back in cattle class with our knees at our ears feel slighted? In some respects yes. But do we have the right to complain to the airlines and say you shouldn't be able to have a first class? Not really. Do the first class passengers have the right to complain about the price? Again, not really. They are paying for a service and they are making a choice that the price is worth it.
Now if you pay for a first class ticket and get what you consider to be substandard service, you have the choice to complain, and or not re-use that airline. Again, consumer choice in a free market. Is it ethically wrong for the airline to charge a higher rate? It's a business! They can charge what they like!
Finally I think the point of the thread was about whether SPs are complaining to each other about prices. I refer you to the analogy of airlines again. Remember Laker? Remember Virgin? They all complained about BAs business practice. Its a fact of life that there will be competition and bad practice. It's another reality of business. Some people are more sanguine than others. Does it suck? Completely. But it will probably continue on any place that there is competition and money involved...
