Who Runs Canada

80watts

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Importing into Canada.
Well if you have a hobby and need parts or supplies for it. Look those parts up online. Look at the online price in Canada; and then in the US. There is a big difference in price; that includes the difference in currency and adding GST/PST. What is the difference is the mark up for the Canadian business. Trust me they are overcharging.

Even online stuff like Amazon and E bay have similar prices to the manufactureres prices in Canadian stores. Why because the manufacturers have set prices to sell their products, no matter where it is sold.....the market is fixed...
 

nightswhisper

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Importing into Canada.
Well if you have a hobby and need parts or supplies for it. Look those parts up online. Look at the online price in Canada; and then in the US. There is a big difference in price; that includes the difference in currency and adding GST/PST. What is the difference is the mark up for the Canadian business. Trust me they are overcharging.

Even online stuff like Amazon and E bay have similar prices to the manufactureres prices in Canadian stores. Why because the manufacturers have set prices to sell their products, no matter where it is sold.....the market is fixed...
Not over-charging. Canada has very high tariffs and de minimis tax. We are an unfair trader with protectionist policies and continue to remain so. The trade agreement with the US forced us to make concessions about not being giant pieces of shit to our consumers.
 

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the other main part that nobody, except the odd media, mentions is

the crooked Liberals, who received illegal donations from SNC, which they're now being forced to pay back

not to mention the law that even allows them to possibly avoid prosecution

was slipped into a horrible Conservative Omnibus bill last year, lol

oh wait, Harper's been gone for 3+yrs

my mistake, that was Zoolander pulling a Harper, lol

the law, Wilson-Raybould's statement, his lawyerish response

best thing is this isn't going away

specially with her resignation
 

Jethro Bodine

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JWR has resigned her cabinet post and hired former Supreme Court judge Thomas Cromwell to advise her on what she can and cannot say, so she obviously has something to say.
Me thinks Trudeau fucked with the wrong lady.
This will get very interesting very soon.

Cheers
J
 

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Her letter of resignation is interesting by what she doesn't say. She only refers to Trudeau in her salutation and nothing about the usual comment that it was a pleasure to serve him.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...yboulds-resignation-letter-to-justin-trudeau/
It is what is NOT being said that is important/salient.When it comes down to brass tacks there was obviously preasure put on her by the PMO and this has the hallmarks of Gerald Butts all over it.

For all of the noise made about the Duffy affair during the run up to the 2015 election the amount of coverage by the Canadian media on this is pretty quiet with the exception of the Globe & Mail who broke the story.

Which is a sad state and it just shows how they can be bought off as the recent funding announcement to give them 595 million.

This is the sleaziest Lieberal scandal yet in that the PMO tried to influence the course of justice for a Canadian company that is guilty as hell and the NEW Justice Minister has not flat out said the same treatment that JWR refused to do under
preasure is not off the table.....oh but he cant talk about that.

This just plain fucking stinks of cronyism and this time it involves rigging the justice system in the favour of a Lieberal donor.

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80watts

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J. Trudeau is just using the same tricks his father used back in his day. You have a popular up and coming MP, saddle them with an important job like Justice Minister and and let/or make the scandal happen. Of course resignation is acceptable or promote another to the position because he was more loyal....

Maybe its about interfering with the Justice system. or not.

Could be they had an affair..... or not....

Could be she done something that she was not supposed to do in the Justice Ministry... or not...

Everyone thinks its about SNC lavlin.... maybe not.

In politics the cabinet has to be seen as following the law. In terms of absolute monarchy, the kings word was law, until he changed it. Same with the cabinet. Sometimes they have to be out of the loop of law...


Eg. President SOSO signed off on XXXX death by laser bomb. Is it legal? Moral? IN the long run it gives the states less grief.....

Just because you have 15 cabinet ministers from the same party running the government, doesn't mean they have all the same agendas. You don't give someone direct orders to do somethings unless it is within party lines and the law. You discuss it with you aides saying I wish this thing would go away. so the 3 aids, A, B, and C are at that discussion and aide B decides to talk to the minister saying if you do this it will help the party...

Be interesting to see how this turns out...
 

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J. Trudeau is just using the same tricks his father used back in his day. You have a popular up and coming MP, saddle them with an important job like Justice Minister and and let/or make the scandal happen. Of course resignation is acceptable or promote another to the position because he was more loyal....

Maybe its about interfering with the Justice system. or not.

Could be they had an affair..... or not....

Could be she done something that she was not supposed to do in the Justice Ministry... or not...

Everyone thinks its about SNC lavlin.... maybe not.

In politics the cabinet has to be seen as following the law. In terms of absolute monarchy, the kings word was law, until he changed it. Same with the cabinet. Sometimes they have to be out of the loop of law...


Eg. President SOSO signed off on XXXX death by laser bomb. Is it legal? Moral? IN the long run it gives the states less grief.....

Just because you have 15 cabinet ministers from the same party running the government, doesn't mean they have all the same agendas. You don't give someone direct orders to do somethings unless it is within party lines and the law. You discuss it with you aides saying I wish this thing would go away. so the 3 aids, A, B, and C are at that discussion and aide B decides to talk to the minister saying if you do this it will help the party...

Be interesting to see how this turns out...
Long story short Tudeau the 2nd is fucking over Canadians just like his father.

Here is a precise account of whats going on......per the "Leftist Media".

OTTAWA - Liberals faced accusations of a coverup Wednesday after they agreed to hold limited committee hearings into an allegation that former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould was improperly pressured to help SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution.

Their short list of three proposed witnesses does not include Wilson-Raybould, who resigned from cabinet Tuesday.

The five Liberal MPs on the House of Commons justice committee used their majority to block an opposition motion that would have seen the committee hear from nine key players in the controversy, including Wilson-Raybould, current Justice Minister David Lametti, clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick and senior aides in the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's office, including chief of staff Katie Telford and principal secretary Gerald Butts.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau looks on during a transit infrastructure announcement in Winnipeg on Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan© Provided by thecanadianpress.com Prime Minister Justin Trudeau looks on during a transit infrastructure announcement in Winnipeg on Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan

Liberals approved instead their own motion, which called on the committee to hear from just Lametti, Wernick and the deputy justice minister — although more could be added next week after getting legal advice, behind closed doors, on what steps the committee needs to take to avoid interfering with two ongoing court cases involving SNC-Lavalin. The Montreal engineering giant has been charged with bribery and corruption involving contracts in Libya.

The Liberals defeated an attempt by New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen to strike a compromise of six witnesses, adding Butts and two other senior PMO aides who were heavily involved in the SNC-Lavalin file.

They also defeated a Conservative motion calling on Trudeau to immediately waive solicitor-client privilege, which Wilson-Raybould has cited as preventing her from commenting on the allegation.

The Liberal motion calls on the committee to study the legal principles at the root of the controversy — including the recently added Criminal Code provision that made it legal to negotiate remediation agreements in cases of corporate corruption, a form of plea bargain in which a company pays restitution, but avoids criminal prosecution that could bankrupt it.

The motion also included looking at the so-called Shawcross doctrine, which spells out the degree to which an attorney general may consult with cabinet colleagues about a prosecution.

"That is not an investigation, that is simply going through the motions," Cullen said after the meeting, accusing the Liberals of "battening down the hatches" to prevent any truth from coming to light.

"Liberals seem to think that this should be just a sort of study group, a book club to look at all sorts of interesting ideas about the law rather than the scandal that's right in front of Canadians."

Conservative MP Michael Cooper said the Liberals' motion is "part of a coverup" and an attempt at creating "a diversion" with lengthy hearings on legal principles.

"At the end of the day, this is really not that complicated. This is about the fact that certain officials in the PMO were alleged to have put pressure on the former attorney general to interfere in a criminal investigation, nothing more, nothing less ... The Liberals aren't interested in that. They're interested in covering this up."

Liberal MP Randy Boissonnault, who proposed the successful motion, defended the Liberals' refusal to call Wilson-Raybould to hear her side of the story. He said she's bound by a rule that prohibits a former minister from commenting on her previous portfolio and by solicitor-client privilege, noting that Wilson-Raybould has hired a former Supreme Court justice to advise her on what she can say.

"I think it's important for Ms. Wilson-Raybould to speak to Canadians on her own terms. It doesn't need to be something we do here at the justice committee," he said.

Trudeau, meanwhile, was sticking to his message that Wilson-Raybould had a duty to speak up months ago if she had concerns about the way the government was handling the SNC-Lavalin case.

At a short appearance in Sudbury, Ont., Trudeau dodged a question about what reason Wilson-Raybould gave about why she resigned from cabinet, leaving the microphone rather than answering.

Wilson-Raybould was demoted to the veterans affairs post in a January cabinet shuffle. A Globe and Mail report, attributed to unnamed sources, last week alleged the PMO leaned on her instruct the director of public prosecutions to negotiate a remediation agreement with SNC-Lavalin.

Trudeau has denied any improper pressure was put on Wilson-Raybould and maintains she never mentioned any concern about that to him.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau talks to media as he visits a construction site in Sudbury, Ont., on Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2019. CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick© Provided by thecanadianpress.com Prime Minister Justin Trudeau talks to media as he visits a construction site in Sudbury, Ont., on Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2019. CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick

Prior to the committee meeting, Raitt said if Liberals believe Trudeau, they should support "without hesitation" the opposition motion for a full investigation into the affair.

"But if they defeat or they water it down in any way, it is nothing less than an admission of guilt."
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Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, who is touring New Brunswick, repeated the same message a short time later. He accused Trudeau of "trying to paint himself as the victim in all of this," while "publicly impugning (Wilson-Raybould's) character in a way that prevents her from speaking for herself."

Raitt said the Conservatives will now pursue other options to get to the bottom of the matter. Among the options, she mentioned a judicial inquiry or an investigation by a Senate committee. She did not rule out asking the RCMP to investigate.

Federal ethics commissioner Mario Dion has initiated his own investigation into the matter, specifically whether there's been a violation of the Conflict of Interest Act.

In the wake of the allegations and Dion's review, SNC-Lavalin had its debt rating downgraded Wednesday by Standard & Poor's to BBB- from BBB.

The agency cited the criminal charges against the engineering and construction giant and the possibility of a 10-year ban from bidding on federal contracts among its reasons for the downgrade.

Nothing but obstruction/denial by the Lieberals whilst also making sure the people that actually matter with regards to the FACTS are not allowed/compelled to speak.It is nothing more than a cover up as Trudeau continually repeats the script written for him.

Pretty sad for Canadians to say the least when this kind of corruption gets swept under the rug.

SR
 

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I don't think Trudeau can stutter his way out of out of this one. He can't see his way in front of his eyebrows.
 

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Why don't I hear the name of the corporate executive that is corrupt and should be fined and/or going to jail for tarnishing a reputable Canadian corporation that can provide income for the Canadian economy rather than importing?
 
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