Who does it better a civi or a pro.

[sevenofnine]

I guess this question comes from me drinking with a few young guys.
You know guys at some point the conversation turns to girls.

And me being and old fart and married since the time Moses parted the Red Sea.
The guys kind of tease me what the hell do I know about sex and women?
Looking at me and my wife its a fare question.

I know nothing about sex.

But I hang with pros.


So leaving out money and any emotional consideration for pure sexual bliss,
Who does it better, a civi, some girl you picked up in a bar, or an office romance perhaps.
a girl friend or a wife?

Or a professional an escort.

Just curious, I have little experiance out side of marriage and the escorts I have been with.

My humble opinion is that a professional girl with several years of experiance, she is not in this for a fast buck or just passing through. Her reputation is on the line, and future earnings shall we say,
and after a few years in this she has had more sex then most guys have had in a life time.
At this point she knows how to get it done, or she never will.
She would be the best.

The first lady I saw in this was such a women. I was as nervous as hell, and she whispered in my ear, I have enough for both of us.

I can't imagine some bar hook up or anyone being that good.
Any way your thoughts,
Ladies too please chime in.

 

[yazoo]

I find that pros are more consistently good. But the best BJ I ever had in my life was from an old GF. If you've got someone who's into you, everything is more intense.

 

[Sleepmonger]

So leaving out money and any emotional consideration for pure sexual bliss

The problem with that is emotional consideration has a whole lot to do with pure sexual bliss.

Because of that, it's hard to compare encounters with civvies and escorts; except the some girl you picked up in a bar experience, which has always turned out terrible for me.

Overall, you would expect well reviewed pro's to top the list of best sexual encounters for any pooner, but for me at least, thats just not true. One could say I've just not met the right pro, and that may be true, I hope so anyways. But in all honesty I've had some wonderful experiences with pro's, and they still just do not measure up to those amazing encounters one can have with certain civvies at specific times.

If your just talking NSA hookups, bar pickups, and random office flings, then yeah pro's win hands down. If your talking consistency pro's have the advantage there as well, since every encounter tends to be more of a special event. But, for the overall best sexual encouners ever in my life, SP's dont even make my top 5.

 

[thehedonist]

The few civilian experiences I had were horrible. The girls weren't attractive, and they acted like they were doing me a huge favour. I'm almost embarassed over how much effort I had to put in to obtain them.

Sex with a hot gf who's into me would be ideal, but it's not happening in this lifetime. So sp's all the way.

 

[westcoast555]

I guess this question comes from me drinking with a few young guys.
You know guys at some point the conversation turns to girls.

And me being and old fart and married since the time Moses parted the Red Sea.
The guys kind of tease me what the hell do I know about sex and women?
Looking at me and my wife its a fare question.

I know nothing about sex.

But I hang with pros.


So leaving out money and any emotional consideration for pure sexual bliss,
Who does it better, a civi, some girl you picked up in a bar, or an office romance perhaps.
a girl friend or a wife?

Or a professional an escort.

Just curious, I have little experiance out side of marriage and the escorts I have been with.

My humble opinion is that a professional girl with several years of experiance, she is not in this for a fast buck or just passing through. Her reputation is on the line, and future earnings shall we say,
and after a few years in this she has had more sex then most guys have had in a life time.
At this point she knows how to get it done, or she never will.
She would be the best.

The first lady I saw in this was such a women. I was as nervous as hell, and she whispered in my ear, I have enough for both of us.

I can't imagine some bar hook up or anyone being that good.
Any way your thoughts,
Ladies too please chime in.

Trust me... the pros are better. I've had lots of girlfriends and some of them are fantastic. But for actual physical prowess and sexual technique (think blowjobs for starters) the pros are... well they're pros.

 

[tantalizeme]

Is sex better with civvies or SPs?

The answer is: that depends.

Certainly, SPs are not all equal in their sexual talent, nor are all civvies equal in their lack of talent—and different pooners are looking for different things from sex. Those who seek sex with love will obviously prefer affection-dripping civvies.

Given my preferences, I must say most of my civvies were poorer lays than most of my SPs, at least initially (until I had a chance to teach them).

A civvy's life isn't usually focused on man-pleasing, so she doesn't have incentive to cultivate sexual expertise as a matter of economic necessity and professional pride. Nor does she have the same likelihood of becoming a sex addict. If my experience is anything to go by, it's rare for civvies to be excellent at BBBJs or ACG, or to happily volunteer rimming or CIM.

While I'm at it, two other gripes come to mind about sex with a new civvie:

1. The best way to get action-ready (especially in the absence of an effective BBBJ) is often to jerk myself hard. I've never seen an SP that minds, but civvies sometimes made me feel guilty—as if the mere sight of their naked body should pump up my cock.

2. I love dirty talking and don't like the fact that civvies generally force me to censor myself. Once, in order to rev up my arousal with a civvy who was overweight, I mumbled under my breath, "Give me that cunt, you dirty slut."

She must have read my moving lips and sat up in a flash, hissing, "What? What's that you just said?"

"Oh...nothing," I stammered, "I said, let me enjoy your lovely pussy, you sweetheart."

 

[blazejowski]

Been with a few civi girls that are high on my list, but no one has blown my mind more (or other things) than the pros have.

 

[NoSoundRain]

Connection is king. Wife, SP, bar hookup are just adjectives... doesn't really matter. What will make it the 'best' is the connection. The rest is just excercise...

 

[Tugela]

It is just a matter of experience. While you want experience in an SP, most guys hold experience in civilians girls in low regard. They want someone who is relatively "unsullied" and therefore GF material, but of course those girls also lack experience. They then conclude that all civilian girls are not that good in bed.

But, actually they are just getting what they were looking for.

 

[Guardian Angel]

I find that pros are more consistently good. But the best BJ I ever had in my life was from an old GF. If you've got someone who's into you, everything is more intense.

The best sex I have had has been with the ladies who are service providers, however, the worst sex also fits in this category.

I agree completely with your comment, if you have someone who is into you, then it really makes no difference!!! Pro or regular.

G.A.

 

[the old maxx50]

I am not sure how to answer this
I have only had sex with girls that are escorts.. were escorts or girls that might or might not become escortd On the other hand they allso are civies to some one else . when they are having a one night stand or in
a relationship which .many of them do and have

It realy is a none question becausd any person you meet hsve sex with. could of been
a pro or still is. Even girls that have been in this business ..and love sex will be the best to who ever
they get in bed with..

Conection is allways the key and you get the best out those you conect with
There are a few escorts that i had some of the best fun snd sex with..all way want more

 

[Daedalus]

Some of the best sex, for me, was with women where we had an unexplained chemistry with each other, whether they be a Pro or a Civi. Some of the worst sex - with the pro that is all business, mechanical and just there to get the cash, do the deed and get out. This chemistry has resulted in my being banned from a well known Vancouver agency because several of the ladies and I used to meet off the books and for some social time, whether it be drinks at the 4 Seasons or lunch at Joe Forte's. In short, for the BEST sex, there has to be some "connection" between the two participants!

 

[badbadboy]

Hard to determine for me. I have had some very active GF's and some who were satisfied with 1 X per week.

At this moment in time - Pro's for the Win!

 

[Tugela]

So many viewpoints on Perb, always interesting. I agree that it is experience. Also, connection. But we hold experience in low regard and we seek "unsullied" girls for GF material? News flash to me. Our "aunties" gain experience as the years pass and our youth have the hook-up culture.

Experience in as having a large number of partners and therefore being more likely in tune with what men in general want.

A girl have sex with the same guy every day for ten years doesn't make her experienced, it just makes her experienced with that guy.

A girl who has sex with a different guy every day for ten years is going to have a much broader perspective.

But, in a social setting if there is a girl everyone knows falls into the latter category, social pressure will inhibit most men from having any significant relationship with her beyond being "day #943". And if they are "day #943" they have to be seen as shaming her or holding her in contempt in order to maintain their own standing in their social circle.

They will go an see SPs who are essentially doing the same thing, but, since no one knows about it, there is no social pressure inhibiting them and it becomes a more free, enjoyable experience as a result.

Take a guy like Joe45, or any of those PUA losers, they do the shotgun random approach to finding girls. Sooner or later they are going to find someone gullible enough to fall for their shit, but anyone that gullible probably doesn't have much experience with men. And since she has no experience with men she probably sucks in bed (and not in a good way). Then, the PUA loser concludes that most girls are useless in bed (because those are the ones he is picking up), that the girls are stuck up bitches who are only interested in playing mental games with them, and that the only solution as far as good sex is concerned lies with SPs.

They target inexperienced women, and, shockingly, they GET inexperienced women.

 

[companyman]

I have had unpaid sex with a top rated SP many times, (was living with the girl...and was my girlfriend....even worked with her....and reviewed on this site many many times, always with glowing reviews) and quite frankly her years of multiple men, and i am talking in the thousands here, made her a bit of a mechanical, albeit effective, workhorse. It was really the same routing over and over...now...i have had several girlfriends that were waaaaaay better than any SP, and I have had hundreds of SP encounters....its about losing your inhibitions....and exposing yourself....so for me.....GF's all the way....

 

[Sexismyreligion]

I think most of the Perbers vote for Pros, because if they were satisfied with their wives and gfs they wouldn't join Perb!

 

[PlayfulAlex]

How about this twist? She's a pro, but you're seeing her as a civi? Her commitment to her trade, as well as her years of experience and access to many 'experiments' gives her an edge in the skills department. But you're dating her as a civi, and she's totally into you, and fucking you with her heart. Now is that a dream come true? :nod:

 

[newatit]

And Alex, that is often the best sex ever, as you put it, "fucking you with her heart, ...a dream come true" And for the few of us that have had it, that is wonderful. But I think maybe too much emphasis here on the one part of the act. Yes, I have had to endure bad blow jobs, bad intercourse, and just plain bad lovemaking too. And it wasn't really the issue of being a pro or non pro, it was interest, devotion, and experience.

I have dated a pro for the last six years, as we developed a tried but true relationship and became good friends. Sex with her has one wonderful aspect. But she is just not into DFK nor breasts, her focus is her pussy and that is it. So once in awhile a session with someone else who likes to kiss or enjoy some oral manipulation of their mammary glands, has been necessary. One gal and I spent two nights of kissing for five hours with a DATY/BJ finish which of course only took a few minutes. But yes, they were pros. But pros with a vision of what was wanted and would be supplied. That of course is the true nature of the service. Many guys just get the "you're off, get out" deal.

More recently got involved with few sugary daddy seeking gals, not pros at all, but hey was I shocked! Two of those gals, in their early 20's, were much more knowledgeable, skilled and widely focused than most Sp's I have been with. And one is a student and the other works full time. A session with them is emotional, physical, and excellently done. They are putting their hearts into it, they have not developed that mechanical approach that comes with experience and knowing how to get a guy off quickly. They want the dollars of course, but they also want the relationship, and they tell me what they like about love making and their body's responses, and likewise, so it has become a great combination. A very nice supplement to the longer wearing out relationship which has become pretty mechanical. That has become like having a wife, she knows what works, lets get to it, and make it happen, and get on with killing the rest of the session with conversation.

So in answer to the question, I would say, it is not a matter of the gal's skill, it is a matter of the several factors that COULD go into a session, and that do or don't. And it has definitely has a lot to do with her experience and teaching and interest in the subject. Age doesn't have a lot to do with it always. It is the little moves, the words, the teasing before, the licks, the squeezes and all that.

 

[lenny]

In the thousands of years of human history, has there ever been a civvie who ever gave a one hour BBBJ, let alone 2, 3, 4 hours?

I've encountered quite a few SP's up to the task.

Then we could speak of other services where SP's are also superior.

So IMO it is no contest. SP's are the easy winners.

 

[companyman]

Just gotta clarify...although the SP was into me and I into her, ultimately the sex was not great....due to her workmanlike unimaginative routine approach....my point was she was a gf and an sp but the gf sex was the same as her SP sex...ultimately a little boring...is what i wanted to say...