Who do you think is going to the New President in the USA.

Krustee

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Wrong. When he was a fringe candidate and more or less a point of interest because of his unusual name, Huckabee was given a free pass by the press. Now that he's become a serious candidate, he will be subject to the sort of intense scrutiny that any major candidate receives and he is going to be found wanting in a lot of areas. I have friends in Arkansas who say he was the worst governor of their lifetime (how they could make such a claim when the state had Orval Faubus as governor during the Civil Rights era is a whole other matter :eek: ).
Well, if my memory serves me correct the last Governor from Arkansas was also strongly disliked by his home state.

He also, when running for re-election, lost in his home state to a Republican.

They did'nt call him Slick Willy for nothing.

So just how much stock should I put into your friends feelings or intense scrutiny?

Ever see Primary Colors?
the Book
 

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So just how much stock should I put into your friends feelings or intense scrutiny?
You should put zero stock in my friends' feelings and a great deal of stock in what closer scrutiny will do to Mike Huckabee's candidacy. The Republican party will not nominate a Baptist minister who is on the record as believing the bible should be taken literally and that the earth is some 5,000 years old as its presidential candidate. You can take that to the bank, Krustee.
 

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Further to the closer scrutiny Mike Huckabee is now receiving from both the press and from his GOP opponents (who no doubt have full time staffers examining everything Huckabee has ever done in his life, not just during his term as governor), there is this excerpt from a Yahoo article this morning:

"Opponents also point to Huckabee's record of pardons and commutations: He had a hand in twice as many as his three predecessors combined, granting 1,033 pardons and commutations in his 10 1/2 years in office. The acts of clemency benefited the stepson of a staff member, murderers who worked at the governor's mansion, a rock star and inmates who received good words from their pastors."

The Republican base isn't likely to be enamoured of a candidate who is perceived as being soft on crime. They might like to preach forgiveness but they aren't so keen on actually practicing it.
 

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Nope - not gonna happen

and you too are 50%correct, and yes a state of emergency can do it also , as can a DECLARED WAR .
A declared war requires the support of the congress and senate. No president can declare war all by his lil self.
 

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Krustee

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lol it was a joke i mean he's beening running for the last 100 years he must win some time right?:D Especially after he did a rap on the Ali G show:D
An Unreasonable Man

Watch it!

Especially after he did a rap on the SNL show in '77
 

Krustee

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You should put zero stock in my friends' feelings and a great deal of stock in what closer scrutiny will do to Mike Huckabee's candidacy. The Republican party will not nominate a Baptist minister who is on the record as believing the bible should be taken literally and that the earth is some 5,000 years old as its presidential candidate. You can take that to the bank, Krustee.
Further to the closer scrutiny Mike Huckabee is now receiving from both the press and from his GOP opponents (who no doubt have full time staffers examining everything Huckabee has ever done in his life, not just during his term as governor), there is this excerpt from a Yahoo article this morning:

"Opponents also point to Huckabee's record of pardons and commutations: He had a hand in twice as many as his three predecessors combined, granting 1,033 pardons and commutations in his 10 1/2 years in office. The acts of clemency benefited the stepson of a staff member, murderers who worked at the governor's mansion, a rock star and inmates who received good words from their pastors."

The Republican base isn't likely to be enamoured of a candidate who is perceived as being soft on crime. They might like to preach forgiveness but they aren't so keen on actually practicing it.
And your point is????
Hmmm, let's look at the latest poll results:

Based on a linear regression of the latest polls, this is what we get:

  • Mike Huckabee 29
  • Mitt Romney 25
  • John McCain 15
  • Fred Thompson 10
  • Ron Paul 10
  • Rudy Giuliani 8

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/


Anybody remember this?

Unfortunately I don't see Romney or Giuliani making the GOP's nomination acceptance speech as Huckabee is gaining strong popularity & has no apparent downside.
So this puts McCain running against Huckabee for the honours of the Republican nomination.

Personally, I just don't like that stuffed shirt McCain & think the GOP would do better with Huckabee.

Add all the ingredients into the soup bowl & I think we will be seeing another Arkansas Governor in the Whitehouse so long as he can distance himself from the nightmare that is currently in there.

God Bless America - please!
The one surprise for me was the strength of Mitt Romney's campaign this past month.

:confused:

The Iowa presidential caucus will firm up whether the polls reflect the mid America consensus.

Huckabee Takes "Center Stage" In Iowa

Iowa Vote: Couple Of Examples On Just How Big It's Gotten



Ron Paul - online poll
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21305725/
 
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JustAGuy

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Hmmm, let's look at the latest poll results:

Based on a linear regression of the latest polls, this is what we get:

  • Mike Huckabee 29
  • Mitt Romney 25
  • John McCain 15
  • Fred Thompson 10
  • Ron Paul 10
  • Rudy Giuliani 8

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/

Anybody remember this?

The one surprise for me was the strength of Mitt Romney's campaign this past month.

:confused:

The Iowa presidential caucus will firm up whether the polls reflect the mid America consensus.
I repeat ... the USA is not going to elect a president who believes men and dinosaurs walked together on the earth, that the planet is 6,000 years old and that women who get abortions should be subject to criminal prosecution. They're crazy down there but not that crazy. The yahoo rube evangelical fundamentalist Christian crowd is not the predominant force in the Republican party, no matter what you may think. Lily white Iowa is one of the least representative states in America in terms of ethnic/racial mix. Baptist minister Mike Huckabee might be polling well in Iowa and may well win tonight's Republican caucuses but he has as much chance of being elected president as you do, Krustee.

Before this weekend is over, Fred Thompson will likely have withdrawn from the race and thrown his support to John McCain. New Hampshire (next week) will be a contest between Romney and McCain with Huckabee coming in a distant third, if he's lucky.
 

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John Edwards may come up the middle for the Dems, I think.

He is the dark horse - I think he can defeat Huckabee or Giuliani.

Remember, the campaign is just beginning, and most political experts believe Iowa is important because it's first....not first because it's important.
 

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The one that is acceptable to the Establishment is Mr. Obama. It will be easier for a black prez to declare war on the corrupt Red China, Iran than some WASP prez..
War in Iraq, Afghanistan and now you're saying China and Iran too? You do realize that the U.S. military is already stretched to their limit with the two current war fronts, so much so that National Guardsmen comprise a significant percentage of the active military? Where do you suppose they are going to get the manpower resources necessary to fight China and Iran? Reinstate the draft and force everyone between the ages of 18 and 50 to join the military? That will happen at roughly the same time Krustee is elected president of the United States. Maybe they could declare war on India, the European Union, Africa and Japan while they're at it. :rolleyes:
 

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Most of the pundits I've been watching/listening to this evening feel that John McCain comes out the biggest winner on the Republican side. His most formidable foe, Mitt Romney, has been seriously wounded in Iowa by finishing second after spending unprecedented amounts of money in the state trying to finish first. Mike Huckabee winning in a state with a huge evangelical Christian population won't translate into him doing the same in New Hampshire where fewer than 5% of the citizens describe themselves as evangelicals.
 

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Unfortunately I don't see Romney or Giuliani making the GOP's nomination acceptance speech as Huckabee is gaining strong popularity & has no apparent downside.
So this puts McCain running against Huckabee for the honours of the Republican nomination.

Personally, I just don't like that stuffed shirt McCain & think the GOP would do better with Huckabee.

Add all the ingredients into the soup bowl & I think we will be seeing another Arkansas Governor in the Whitehouse so long as he can distance himself from the nightmare that is currently in there.
Still got your wagon hitched to the Huckabee juggernaut, Krustee? If he can't win a primary in South Carlolina, the heart of the bible belt south where his evangelical buddies are more numerous than flies on shit, it might be that he really was just a one hit wonder.

The race for the nomination in both parties is a long way from being over but I'd be awfully surprised if Mike Huckabee is considered a serious contender alongside the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney from this point on.
 

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So much experteze from so many who know so little about the American political scene.

Thus far nobody has mentioned Mike Bloomberg. He has tons of money, name recognition and is still in no hurry to announce his candidacy.

He would appeal to those on the Right with a distaste for John McCain, as well as the many in the center and on the Left who have trouble with the idea of a woman or a Black man running the country. This is not a sexist, racist statement. People are people and that is how they are.

I suspect he will not announce until it has been decided who the Republicans and Democrats have selected. Possibly as late as Augest or as early as May.
 

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USA too redneck for Black Leader

As much as I support & hope & know USA needs a change in their government they're just not ready for a black man to lead them.

Michealle Jean is appointed here and everyody sips Timmy coffee and talks about how we hate the Monarchy.

But in the USA they drink Jack and carry Smith & Wesson.

I hope he appoints a compentent vice prez
 

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McCain has integrity

The quote from McCain that grabbed me was something like "I'll recognize Cuba when the Cubans that came to North Vietnam and tortured my friends are brought to justice"

Americans are all about justice. It is in America where modern justice is served or sullied most prominently
 
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