Cock Throppled said:
Don't know how a thread titled "where is the love" turned into a hostile discourse on rap/hip hop, but that's the way some people have to play it. Smackyo, you are a perfect example of a music snob. Becasue you are heavily immersed in a certain type of music you believe only you have a right to determine what fits that genre and how much of a sell-out anyone is. For the record I am not a fan of rap or hip hop, but the world is full of bands that don't "sell out" and for the most part nobody has ever heard of them and they can't make a living. Who the hell cares (other than you, apparently) that some obscure nobody is credited with inventing hip hop? I ask you to go into any music store and look around. Notice anything? There are racks and racks of many types of music. For every fan of BEP's there is a Donny Osmond buyer or Frank Sinatra or Ashley Simpson. Hell, there might even be a Kevin Federline fan somewhere. Doesn't mean one is better or worse or more of a sell-out - just different market for different tastes. Don't take yourself so seriously.
excuse me sir but i don't just listen to hip hop, i listen to everything from marvin gaye to iron maiden to johnny cash to run dmc to bach. don't believe me then quiz me. as for why i don't like sellouts to hip hop music and why i take the music seriously are as follows, oh and just for the record kool dj hurk and afrikka bambatta are not obscure nobody's for those who know.
if you spent your time growing up in two places, place A. a small town in northern ontario, and place B. big city ontario(toronto southern ontario region)
i developed my taste for REAL hip hop in the city where i was a white kid living on the outskirts of the blackest of the black neighborhoods that canada has to offer. i had to go through a lot of shit to prove myself worthy of peoples respect. music and sports were those ways.
as for the small town situation. we moved there from the city, eventually i made my way south again but not till i was a bit older. there is no one there except white rednecks and maybe one chinese family per town. i got called nigger every day for playing basketball and listening to hip hop music. i had to fight a lot and deal with the verbal abuse every day. keep in mind i didn't dress overly hip hop style nor did i talk the street ebonics. but the nigger, wigger white boy insults still came.
what was funny was that once i began making friends, more and more people in the area started listening to it and asking me to make them dj mix tapes. so i did and eventually i had myself a little cult following.
that seemed to keep growing.
to those that know hip hop is more then just music, it is a type of subculture if you will, rap is the oral expression of hip hop. it is a music born out of poverty and rebellion. it gave a voice to people that otherwise didn't have one. therefore to see what the pop version of hip hop is now sickens me to the core. i am a person that has lived that lifestyle most of my life and delt with the consequences of loving that style of music in that time and place.
therefore to see a group like the black eyed peas that used to be a part of that culture and turn their back on it disgusts me. therefore mr. cock throppled if you don't know anything about it then i would refreign from telling me what it is. now i'm not saying this to start a flame war or anything cause i do enjoy most of your posts and find you quite entertaining. however i do know about this subject and music in general so don't class me like you did as being some overzelous wigger hip hop music snob.
most people that listen to this garbage today that is considered hip hop don't know thing one about the music, its history or the culture. they are a bunch of kids that come from the burbs and claim it as their own without knowing shit about it. that is what pisses me off.
if you listen to past bep albums in their lyrics you will hear them say that they would never do what they are doing now just to please the masses of sheep.
THE PEAS ARE SELLOUTS AND THEY SUCK!
