Where are all the good girls? (continuing conversation)

[bigbird]

As I've perused the reviews on the board, I'm wondering why there are so many negative reviews of SPs. We men are out spending lots of hard earned cash for a good time, and it doesn't seem that we're getting great value for our money.

And furthermore, why is it that whenever guys speak up they get blasted? It's our money ain't it? Can't we expect to have a good time and not be saddled with all sorts of guilt for how we didn't hold our nose just so?

IMHO we need a few more SPs who make customer service a priority...

Any thoughts?

 

[m6233]

Well darling, you haven't been to visit me.I have a few reviews, check them out and decide if you would like to see customer service at it's best!!I guarantee you won't leave me disappointed.........Skye @ IB

 

[BillyC]

Hmmmm.... that's a nice promise guys!!! Skye I like that maid's outfit, can that be part of the promise??? Nice to see you participate, and guess what, I LUV the new location!

BC

 

[maude]

Bigbird . . .

Gotta appreciate a written guarantee in this biz . . . ;-)

Well darling, you haven't been to visit me.I have a few reviews, check them out and decide if you would like to see customer service at it's best!!I guarantee you won't leave me disappointed.........Skye @ IB

 

[steverino]

Actually that is not a guarantee of anything. If it were a guarantee it would state that if you don't have a great session then I will give you your money back.

I am not saying that Skye should offer that, I am only saying that it is only truly a "guarantee" if she offers that compensation.

 

[Eden]

Big Bird

I agree with Big Bird's remarks. Think about it, if you went into a store to buy a shirt (or whatever) the clerk ignored you first and then decided to help you the absolute minimum she had to all the while dragging her feet in protest. You could tell she didn't really enjoy her job and that it was more of a survival gig to her. You left thinking to yourself, what a b*t*h and that you will never shop there again. Maybe you might even talk to the manager, but who knows. It is just a piece of clothing. You guys make tons of cash and shouldn't throw it away for any b*t*hy sales girl. It doesn't matter if they have a bad day or their dog died, if I have hired someone (at my regular place of work) and they have a bad attitude and cannot provide the level of customer service that I require in my business they are gone. Simple as that! Really is this business any different? I am not saying to fire people, I am only saying that everyone should look at this as a customer service orientated business and to expect high levels of customer service for high levels of cash.
Eden

 

[yogi]

Exactly.
That's why my pet PERB peeve is when someone asks about an SP & the reply is invariably "TOFTT".
Am I missing something?
Isn't the purpose of PERB to freely & generously share info, thus promoting/enhancing/rewarding both the profession & service level?
And of course, also to post warnings from disappointing experiences?

 

[bigbird]

My thoughts exactly...PERB is supposed to be a place where we can hold girls accountable for their service levels. And girls shouldn't get all bent out of shape if they don't get a good review. We guys need to demand a decent level of service, and be willing to keep our willies in our pants if a girl ain't measuring up.

Sorry to rant, but this is important!

Bird

 

[chuck1561]

My thoughts exactly...PERB is supposed to be a place where we can hold girls accountable for their service levels. And girls shouldn't get all bent out of shape if they don't get a good review. We guys need to demand a decent level of service, and be willing to keep our willies in our pants if a girl ain't measuring up.

Sorry to rant, but this is important!

Bird

yes bigbird I agree ..but where the concern comes in is how accurate the review is and who it is actually from...you can say all you want that you can figure out for yourself but in my experience..there have been a LOT of situations on perb where someone gets accused of being a shill by other members and a fake only to find out that they are genuine..and visa versa..so if the review is done respectfully and is truthful then there should be no problem..but I don't think I want a board that advocates putting a muzzle on the girl's opinion either..but I do understand what you mean..it can be a very hard balance

 

[Eden]

chuck1561

You make a very valid point. Everyone needs to be honest, but not everyone needs to agree. A review should be informative and accurate based on ONES own experience with the other person. Perb is also a great advocate and a useful tool for any girl to agree or to disagree with the review. It should not be used to chuck (no pun intended- well maybe) s**t at each other. That makes it useless for everyone. However, the point was that if the guy is having a crappy day, then don't take it out on the girl-and vice versa. It should not be acceptable for a lady to say that she was having an off day, when to be there one would think is her choice. I guess wherever I go I expect a high level of customer service so one would only think that that is the service that I would provide. Is everyone so different? I don't think so.

 

[yogi]

Interesting discussion in the lounge as to whether mod should post a list of SP's who don't want to be reviewed on PERB.
Anyone who doesn't want to be reviewed is someone I want to know about. If she's afraid of one bad review, she's not for me.

 

[chuck1561]

Re: chuck1561

You make a very valid point. Everyone needs to be honest, but not everyone needs to agree. A review should be informative and accurate based on ONES own experience with the other person. Perb is also a great advocate and a useful tool for any girl to agree or to disagree with the review. It should not be used to chuck (no pun intended- well maybe) s**t at each other. That makes it useless for everyone. However, the point was that if the guy is having a crappy day, then don't take it out on the girl-and vice versa. It should not be acceptable for a lady to say that she was having an off day, when to be there one would think is her choice. I guess wherever I go I expect a high level of customer service so one would only think that that is the service that I would provide. Is everyone so different? I don't think so.

thanks Eden..long time no see..Welcome to Perb.as usual you are very insightful and level headed with your opinions.. well the one thing I do remember about you if I may say is you have a very high level of customer service and go out of your way for your clients..you are one of the Ladies that I have a LOT of respect for!! again Welcome..maybe if you ever come back I will have the privledge of seeing you again

Anyone who doesn't want to be reviewed is someone I want to know about. If she's afraid of one bad review, she's not for me.

well yogi..I guess it would depend on the reason..some ladies have VERY valid reasons..so I wouldn't lump them all together ..and it's all about Respecting ones wishes as far as Iam concerned..but that is why there is freedom of choice..you don't have to book with someone you don't want to..

 

[maude]

True enough . . .

Actually sounds like more of a "dare" .... lol ... or perhaps a game of "truth or dare" . . .

Actually that is not a guarantee of anything. If it were a guarantee it would state that if you don't have a great session then I will give you your money back.

I am not saying that Skye should offer that, I am only saying that it is only truly a "guarantee" if she offers that compensation.

 

[Eden]

yogi

I personally have asked not to be reviewed, as well. Not because I am afraid of a bad one, but (discussion takes place before action) for two reasons:
1)If I know that it is a reviewer that is cuming to see me, I don't want him to feel obligated to do a review and feel like he is only having a great session due to the fact that he will do one.
2)If I already have a few on the board already it is enough, nobody wants to read about the same girl in any review time after time. Variety is supposed to be the spice of life, if there are constant reviews done on the same lady people will be conditioned to it, it will no longer be a surprise or a turn on. Quite a few people on this board, as a matter of fact, have been requested not to do a review on me, and most of them have respected it. I do not think that there needs really to be a list if we are on adults and can play nice in the sandbox together.
Question for all: If mod puts out a list of ladies who do not ever wish to be reviewed at what point does it stop? What about 411, if someone puts in there that they are looking for a certain girl and they ask if anyone has seen her and would they see her again. If someone posts a reply saying that they have seen her and this is whats on the menu, but not to go because it was not a good time. Tell me is mod going to erase it because that lady is on the list to not have reviews. I think that it will cause more people to be in a closed forum only pm'ing eachother. Isn't this supposed to be a public forum?

 

[Sunset]

Thank you Eden,

Your comments are insightful. People have and will always find a way of sharing information regarding intimate affairs for one good reason, to avoid disappointment and hurt feelings.

Information to avoid disappointment and hurt feelings will always find a way to be shared whether in a back alley, telephone conversation, internet board or other forms of word of mouth communication.

The review board is just what Eden alluded to, a public forum. And, I think a respectful and fair way of sharing information to avoid disappointment and hurt feelings.

Thanks Eden for your thoughtful participation.

 

[LonelyGhost]

Eden raises some good points ... however:

1. too many reviews: this may seem like a problem but really, it is up to the reviewers to ensure that the sp hasn't been reviewed before ... this does happen very often.

1a. while numerous reviews may take the mystery out of the situation, the solution is to not read the reviews ...

2. the issue of respect is paramount ... but while we are CONSTANTLY asked to respect the sp's the same courtesay is not always extended to us -- in particular, the idea that an sp who is ripping off clients or upselling or has a crappy attitude and no menu and uses some lame excuse to have her reviews removed so she can continue acting like that is disrespectful to us!

Bottom line? I know how long an sp has to work to get $160 out of my wallet ... do you know how long i have to work to come up with that money after taxes????

The LEAST I want out of an sp is that she treat me like a human being ... the one's who want their 'reviews' pulled are, unfortunately, the one's who seem least likely to have that much respect for me; all other arguments are fairly moot beyond that.

 

[Eden]

Thank you, sunset, for welcoming my ideas. The name of anything that I write is just that "my ideas", the same goes for someone else. Why should anyone be able to take that away from me?
LG also raises some good points:
1)There are alot of air reviews, ones that are all puffed up with no info that is why this board is great the girls can fill in the blanks if they so desire. They should also be done respectfully and not done as a personal attack. We all like to feel safe on and off this board ladies and gents.
2)Keep reviews fairly simple in that stating menu items and openness, etc. Eg. multiple positions (is great) we did doggy, mish, cg,rcg,up against the wall, floor, swing, desk, chair (bad, that is the mystery aspect gone). With the later, mens expectations of what could happen in a get together go sometimes far beyond their reach.
LG, you guys do work hard (no pun intended for sunset) for your cash and that this board was designed so that you could and should get the most out of it any way you choose to spend it and that everyone should be treated with respect, courtesy, and sincerety at all points in time.
Question: If you give respect should you not get it in return? If you don't how do you change it so that you do?

 

[LonelyGhost]

Reviews: some guidelines:

1. ratings are over-rated ... your idea of a 9 may be someone else's 3 (there was even a song written about it if you want to hum along ...)

2. menu's are open to interpretation so why include them? some sp's are consistent and others are not ... if an sp throws in an extra because she likes you, that is NOT the time to be advertising that she has that on her menu.

2a. YMMV and so may her's ... see #2 above!

3. if you had a nice time, say so ... but we're not looking for Penthouse fantasy forum letters ... if we were, all my reviews would begin with "She just raved about my big dick ..." and I'm sick of hearing about it so I imagine are you too!

3a. if you didn't have a good time, then say what it was you didn't like ... try to be specific ... was she unresponsive? if so, how? was she nasty? did she have an unpleasent odour? did she boot you 20 minutes into a 60 minute session? and MOST IMPORTANT -- did you talk to her about it before you left? (I am bad for not doing this myself so include me on the 'needs to know better' list).

4. you don't love or even like everyone, so why should everyone love or even like you? this may seem like a repeat of the things said above, but in reality, we ALL meet people we don't 'click' with and it can just be an off night for all concerned. if this happens, then try to say you just didn't click with her or that she didn't seem to click with you.

5. finally, I've posted some reviews that were meant to be humorous but just ended up kind of mean and nasty, and the one rule we should all follow (sp's and reviewers alike):

Always treat someone else the way that you would want them to treat you ...

 

[chuck1561]

Reviews: some guidelines:

3. if you had a nice time, say so ... but we're not looking for Penthouse fantasy forum letters ... if we were, all my reviews would begin with "She just raved about my big dick ..." and I'm sick of hearing about it so I imagine are you too!

but she did LG..HONEST very good points LG ..it's hard about the detail in reviews though..as I've experienced if you don't put the details as you say in a penthouse forum letter style then you're jumped all over for giving a crappy review..but I do agree with you that it's not needed

 

[Eden]

LG-I like #3 (really do you have a big dick?)
The one thing that is consistent is that you need to click with someone to have a good time. I don't think that I agree, are you not the one dishing out the cash? I think that it is important for you to click with the lady, but call me old fashioned I don't think that she needs to CLICK with you. Let me explain even if I don't like you, do not feel any attraction with you, or you are simply not my type- you are paying me to make sure you have a good time-I am a SURE THING. When you are with me you will never know anything, but that I am having a good time and that you are having a good time because it is my choice to be in a job that requires great acting skills. When you leave it is a different time altogether, I then can make the choice as to whether I would want to see YOU again. Lets be mature about it, it is a job (some enjoy it more than others) and some times you need to suck it up, otherwise with those odds would you not be better off going to a bar or nightclub buy a couple of drinks for a lady and take her home-less cost and in some ways less hassles. The only thing is she doesn't care about a review. Now LG lets get back to the size of your dick...........lol