When you fail screening for whatever reason...

[Miss Hunter]

I would surmise not many or not many that want to stay in business. Slagging clients is a good way of turning off new clients and existing clients. Though I could be wrong on what you mean by slagging (to completely lay waste to an individual's online or IRL reputation).





I'm wondering if you're contributing to the problem if the only time you post to other ladies twitter post is when you see really off the wall behavior. What behavior, in your opinion, warrants posting perb content to other lades twitter?

If you're only posting the bad stuff the lady might believe that there is only bad stuff going on?? Maybe??? :noidea:




So is twitter, to some extent. But it is also a place where (and please correct me if I am wrong, since I do not use twitter) one can block content from other twitter users. That could allow the creation of specific narratives that might not be reality.



Both statements true.

Ladies who don't like review boards don't tend to advertise on them. A poster mentioned he failed screening after he mentioned he was a PERB member so I assumed that the lady he was referring to prefers not to see board members. This isn't unheard of. And it's their choice. He wasn't complaining about it, he just mentioned "hey this happened .... "

I was just trying to participate in a discussion. We regularly have discussions in my classes in which we are expected to analyze topics and/or case studies and discuss things from multiple perspectives.

Most of my own twitter feed consists of cat pictures and babbling about keto meals. I discuss PERB rarely on there. Plus I'm the sort of person who, if I have an issue, I tend to deal with it directly. So my opinions about whatever is going on on PERB get posted on PERB. I'm not one to beat around the bush.

 

[Miss Hunter]

I was also just trying to participate in the discussion. I remember those discussions in class, though it was decades ago. I also do it wherever I am actively posting, whether here or on reddit. I appreciate your perspective and I am just making an attempt to offer a different perspective. Do with my perspective as you will.

Well, in any event, I sure caused a shit storm when I suggested some of you Perberts might be rejected for being Perberts. You asked me to expound. I can't. The reasons women reject Perberts for being Perberts is as vast as the peccadilloes of Perberts.

 

[VinVan]

Interesting thread Ms Hunter. Thanks for cracking the nut.

What I find interesting is that you stated some providers will screen a client out if they have a Perb account. And yet others (case in point, some high end agency) will ask for it as a reference. These are two contradictory positions. I’m assuming, and I may be wrong (it has happened before LOL), that some providers think Perb is a wasteland of misogynistic blah-blahs. And I can understand that perspective because we’re basically dudes with cash buying intimacy and some folks would view that as kind of pathetic. On the other hand, checking someone’s Perb posts can give a provider a good sense of if the account holder is a gentleman or a dick - case in point, the OP of the post flaming the reputable agency.

Me personally, I’m all for as much screening as a provider deems necessary to feel safe. I was recently declined because, in my zeal, I failed to follow the instructions detailed in the ad. At first my ego was bruised, but I realized that the provider was well within her rights to decline me and see whomever she pleases.

As for Perb reviews vs no Perb reviews, if I were a provider it would be a no brainer to get reviews provided you’re giving good service. I’ve been with several amazing providers who barely bump on LL now because their positive Perb reviews is the gift that keeps giving. If I was a provider, the first thing I would do is try to get 1 or 2 positive reviews. There is one lass I know who doesn’t ever advertise anymore and yet her cup is filled because she is. Perb superstar.

As for the OP of the other thread, the detailed and civilized response from the owner of the agency made it very clear that she was 100% correct in declining his business.

 

[rekun]

I can totally understand not wanting to see perb members. While there's a lot of decent guys here, there's also a lot of objectification that would never fly in the real world.

Also, bad reviews can totally destroy your business. It's difficult when one bad encounter leads to a specific perb thread whenever you Google "xyz escort review" in perpetuity. As a parallel, when selling goods online I increase the price by ~25% compared to other platforms, since I'd much rather have customers that can't frivolously destroy my 100% rating if a transaction doesn't go smoothly for whatever reason outside my control. That Rogue thread is a perfect example of this: the owner initially had to pubically announce that she was giving him a second chance in the thread, and then when that didn't go well, she had to write a lengthy post detailing her side of the story. If he wasn't a Perb member, she could've just blocked him and moved on without stress.

Back on topic: I failed screening a few months back once I gave my perb ID, since the DNR provider preferred "not to see someone who gossips". I totally understand it's her right and moved on, but because of that I'm considering deleting the one thread where I ever left a negative review for a provider, and re-considering writing any (even positive) reviews at all, because I can never be sure what will cast me in a negative light. I think this also explains the prevalence of the "white knight" phenomenon, since users know many of their beloved SP's are reading what they write. Makes Perb a bit of a double edged sword, and has taught me to view things with a grain of salt

 

[Oldfart]

I would assume it was because of my advanced years.
Not everyone is OK with Boomers.
Onwards...

 

[steverino]

I think a lady who was running a scam or provided lousy service might not want perb members because they may expose the scam or provide a review that would hurt their business.

 

[Miss Hunter]

I don't know or think that you caused a shitstorm... we, obviously, have very different perspectives. I was thinking more about this. In your scenario, where the SP weeds out all members of perb, does the SP ask for references and/or forum handles? If the SP asks for forum handles and then uses that information to weed out a client, that seems a bit... dishonest? Dishonest might not be the best word to use... deceptive? Let me go to that thesaurus thing... unfair... that's the word I am looking for. In my scenario, where the SP asks for, or requires, forum handles as a form of screening, and then uses the fact that a potential clients is a member of a forum such as perb, is a bit unfair. Would you agree that is unfair?

I'm not saying that an SP should not do such a thing just that it is unfair.

Oh dear. The plight of the male review board member.

Some screening practices may seem to be discriminatory but some ladies are highly selective because they want to provide a more authentic experience. Who wants to force themselves through sessions they don't want to be in, for whatever reason? and, by being declined, I think she's doing you a favour so you can save your time and money for someone more suited to you.

 

[Miss Hunter]

I'll use a recent example of my own. I saw a 411 request written by someone who, due to his posting history, I felt there would be a personality clash. So I replied in the thread to inform him we wouldn't be a good match.

And another example, I occasionally get booking requests from PERB members who don't want to abide by my mandatory deposit policy and/or my minimum booking notice rule. In these cases, the PERB members weren't declined for their post histories or simply for being members, but because they couldn't or wouldn't follow my booking rules.

Something else worth a mention; I only accept men and trans-women as clients. Is this unfair to biological women?

 

[uncleg]

My body, my business, my choice on how I run it... If there is a segment of society I don't want to do business with, my lose, my gain, my choice. Seems a reasonable way for an individual to do business in this industry. It's like the many rates threads that crop up....if you don't like the rates, there are multiple choices out there. If you don't like the screening, same applies.

 

[Miss Hunter]

I'll assume, since you refused to directly answer my question that you do not find any actions taken by an SP in furtherance of screening as unfair. Cool. Then on the flip side of the mirror you'd have no problem with a client being dishonest about being a member of any forum?

I answered your question. I’ll rephrase it. Whether or not an SPs screening seems unfair or discriminatory, the bottom line is that due to the intimate nature of this business, an SP has the right to screen in any manner that works for her/them.

I don’t ask for forum handles in my screening. Some guys just happen to include them in their inquiries.

But on the topic of lying to get through screening, doing that is never ok. And it’s a red flag that the guy could potentially cause further issues.

 

[Miss Hunter]

My body, my business, my choice on how I run it... If there is a segment of society I don't want to do business with, my lose, my gain, my choice. Seems a reasonable way for an individual to do business in this industry. It's like the many rates threads that crop up....if you don't like the rates, there are multiple choices out there. If you don't like the screening, same applies.

Agreed :thumb:

 

[Miss Hunter]

If any prospective clients find getting turned down when they attempt to book a sex worker to be extremely upsetting, there’s likely other issues going on. A reasonable level of disappointment is one thing, but anything beyond that is a cause for concern. Perhaps booking an appointment with a professional therapist would be a good way to work through whatever is simmering under the surface

 

[hedgeman]

I can guarantee there's more than one sp who wants nothing to do with someone who is a PERB member. No matter how highly some guys value their post counts, it doesn't necessarily make them desirable as a client

Have you guys ever been to a place on the internet called twitter? Some ladies just aren't a fan of review boards, period. For their own reasons.

I kind of derailed the thread with that comment.

Oh I think most of us are aware of who you're talking about, and trust that the feeling is mutual about that one

 

[Pbandj]

Erokose, you posted: “If the SP had specifically stated that they would not cater to any client that participated in a specific forum then the client would not, likely, waste their time and the SP would not have had to waste their time reviewing the screening information.”

Seriously? Think about it. Are you saying PERB members are all such honourable gentlemen they would never lie to an SP who doesn’t want to see a PERB member?

 

[Pbandj]

Not at all. I wasn't even attempting to say that. What I was trying to convey is that it could save time, both the potential client's and the SP's. Just as there are black men that will not waste their time trying to see an SP that specifically states they do not cater to black men. Just as it would be a waste of time for a large man to try to pass screening of an SP that has a height and weight restriction.


I would hazard a guess that there are perb members that would not waste their time attempting to pass screening if an SP specifically stated that they would not cater to any client that was a member of perb. Would you waste your time if you knew the SP did not want to cater to you simply because you were a member of perb?

I would hazard a guess that for every PERB member who wouldn’t waste their time there would be two who would simply say they weren’t a board member. If you can’t understand how the screening process you recommend is inherently flawed then so be it.

Btw, it’s easy for an SP to see if a client is black or not when they arrive for the session. How can they tell if the client is a PERB member?

 

[vanboy69]

What happens when he slips through their screening under a fake name then decides to let the girl know what he did (once he is in her private suite), now he is a predator and things could escalate very quickly...

I never meant that I would then tell the girl about my Identity. Only thing I meant was that the screening process which these providers boast of is shady itself. Anybody who pretends to be submissive and write fancy words can get past the so called screening. I am not a bitter or angry guy at all, I work in construction, my language and writing skills are not perfect but when I communicate a point the person responding to me should respond to the point and not talk about their own stories. This is what I hated with Rouge. I know Scarlette has responded to my OP but still she is not able to explain that when I asked for screening guide she said go visit her website, then I agreed to provide 3 out of 5 things listed there, she didnt agree to them.

We accept one or more of the following verification methods:

2 references from credible sources (agency, independent provider, mutual friend, etc.)
Established PERB, TER or P411 handle
$50 e transfer deposit
Social media or employment verification
Picture of government-issued photo ID

I didn't have 2 references but I had a perb username (she says that I am not established, okay If I am new to this hobby and don't have any references then it automatically should mean that I don't have a established PERB as well)
but I agreed for 50 dollar e transfer
I agreed for employment verification and agreed for Picture of Govt ID
she insisted that girls would be scared to see a stranger
I mean come on
Then when I replied back she said that I was rude, never did I use abusive language or even said anything bad only thing I did was to question her communication. She got mad at me because she is surrounded by Fancy La La Land fairy boys all the time

 

[wintersurfer]

I never meant that I would then tell the girl about my Identity. Only thing I meant was that the screening process which these providers boast of is shady itself. Anybody who pretends to be submissive and write fancy words can get past the so called screening. I am not a bitter or angry guy at all, I work in construction, my language and writing skills are not perfect but when I communicate a point the person responding to me should respond to the point and not talk about their own stories. This is what I hated with Rouge. I know Scarlette has responded to my OP but still she is not able to explain that when I asked for screening guide she said go visit her website, then I agreed to provide 3 out of 5 things listed there, she didnt agree to them.

We accept one or more of the following verification methods:

2 references from credible sources (agency, independent provider, mutual friend, etc.)
Established PERB, TER or P411 handle
$50 e transfer deposit
Social media or employment verification
Picture of government-issued photo ID

I didn't have 2 references but I had a perb username (she says that I am not established, okay If I am new to this hobby and don't have any references then it automatically should mean that I don't have a established PERB as well)
but I agreed for 50 dollar e transfer
I agreed for employment verification and agreed for Picture of Govt ID
she insisted that girls would be scared to see a stranger
I mean come on
Then when I replied back she said that I was rude, never did I use abusive language or even said anything bad only thing I did was to question her communication. She got mad at me because she is surrounded by Fancy La La Land fairy boys all the time

I didn’t have an issue with your original post, you said how you felt then SR responded (her business her rules) end of story, the issue is you talking about sneaking through her screening (that is being a predator)...

 

[PierreCoeur]

Not in a million years would I go through a screening process. Number one, I would not feel comfortable asking one of the prior ladies I visited for a reference as I would feel guilty not going back to see them again. Number two my name and personal information is private for a reason. There are many individuals who have fantastic jobs who could lose them if they are caught in what their employers consider inappropriate situations (remember it is still illegal for johns to purchase services) In fact one of the managers who works for my company lost his job for exactly that reason.

I would also never transfer money as too many of the ladies use fake picture or pictures of themselves when they were 5 years younger and 35 pounds lighter. There are many fabulous and beautiful ladies out there that don't screen other than one or two liking to know your Perb handle.

Move on after failing a screening is a good answer but a better answer is avoid those that require such extensive screening as it is an real invasion of our privacy. They don't show us their real names or show their licences

 

[wintersurfer]

There really isn’t a right or wrong answer, if the Agency or Indy have rules/screening that’s their business, if you wanna see “girl A” follow their guidelines, if they decide you aren’t a good fit (whether it’s right or wrong) that’s their choice and move on, when you talk about being sneaky then everyone takes note and your post is all over twitter and your IP address and email address get shared with other reputable agencies and Indies to put on their “blacklist”...

 

[KinkyKatey]

We show up wearing a T-shirt saying "I survived Perbatory for two weeks, and all I got was an infraction, and this stupid T-shirt"

Million dollar idea alert! Mods you need to get on this fast!


But more on topic as someone said earlier in this thread there are sooo many other options for the gents and the Sps, why would anyone even WANT a session with someone that doesn’t want to see them? Even if it is only about scratching an itch and you seek no connection can you truly be turned on knowing the person you are with does NOT want to see you? That is scary indeed. Don’t take it to heart, for every person you are not the right fit for there are several more seeking exactly you, you wouldn’t have enjoyed that individual anyway.

Xo
Katey