When will these incidents in our society end?
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I have no doubt there is little difference in the tradition of setting women on fire between Indo-Canadian and Scottish culture.
here's a question for you.
Suppose a guy is born in India and lives the first 20-30 years of his life there.
Then he decides to come to Canada and be a Canadian resident.
On the day his plane lands, is he now representative of Indo-Canadian culture or is he still representative of Indian culture?
At what point does someone who was born and raised in India cease to be representative of the culture of his upbringing?
I read the article as it never mentions Scotland? It took place on the south side of Indianapolis. There are fucking nuts everywhere, to bad innocent people are harmed by these fuckwad pieces of shit. I continually shake my head and wonder what the world is coming to and what's it going to be like in 25 or 50 years?
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Well, closed case, Mr. Holmes.
Clearly, if an over ten year old article is the first thing that comes up on google that must be the complete story.
Thank you for your input blowhard.
That'll learn her for wearin' flammable clothing!ericestro_88 said:
You try to pass off this story as having some sort of relevance to the recent violence against Indian women by Indian men. If you take a moment to actually THINK about it for a second, you'll see that you couldn't possibly be any fuckin' farther from the truth.
here's an interesting way of looking at things...
Maybe being raised in an East Indian family/culture had the result of this woman actually ending up with a guy who treated her like crap, and staying with him and putting up with it, because that is what she had been taught to expect from men?
Maybe a part of the solution to the problem is teaching East Indian women to avoid and get away from men who treat them like crap and not to put up with it?
Several of the victims of situations like this who survived have said things like "If only I had left him earlier when he started abusing me" etc etc...
Of course, then there is the problem of the ex husbands who fly into town and kill them after they leave...
will someone attempt to define and correlate such a tradition… for the Indo-Canadian community… the community within Canada.… anyone…….. anyone?
and here’s a question for you: at what point does someone cease to draw back into India for studies and examples of crime/domestic violence, incessantly – over and over again, to presume to rationalize some presumption, to draw some inference, towards the Indo-Canadian community within Canada, a majority of who have long severed direct ties and associations to India, a majority of who are now third generation born Canadians.
and the reasons for the thousands….. hundreds of thousands….. of women of non-Indian descent, as you say, “actually ending up with a guy who treated her like crap, and staying with him and putting up with it, because…..”, why, what's the "because" for these non-Indian women?
fuzzy, that’s exactly the point being made… that it’s a cherry picking… it’s a mocking of the jjinvan “race-baiting” tactics.
PD … Wilson… the family name… Scottish ancestry
If you take a moment to actually THINK, you would never say anything like "...farther from the truth"
blow guy... did your lil rubbin in that other thread get to you 
see, the way the game is played you come back with something to soundly dispute a suggestion... and while doing so, state what relevance/correlation/inference you're trying to make; that is to say:
- attempt to define and correlate such a tradition… for the Indo-Canadian community… the community within Canada.… anyone…….. anyone?
- at what point does someone cease to draw back into India for studies and examples of crime/domestic violence, incessantly – over and over again, to presume to rationalize some presumption, to draw some inference, towards the Indo-Canadian community within Canada
- and the reasons for the thousands….. hundreds of thousands….. of women of non-Indian descent, as you say, “actually ending up with a guy who treated her like crap, and staying with him and putting up with it, because…..”, why, what's the "because" for these non-Indian women?
blow guy... by-the-by: I'm still waiting for the above (3) answers. Since you care to bump on in... waiting:
see, the way the game is played you come back with something to soundly dispute a suggestion... and while doing so, state what relevance/correlation/inference you're trying to make; that is to say:
- attempt to define and correlate such a tradition… for the Indo-Canadian community… the community within Canada.… anyone…….. anyone?
- at what point does someone cease to draw back into India for studies and examples of crime/domestic violence, incessantly – over and over again, to presume to rationalize some presumption, to draw some inference, towards the Indo-Canadian community within Canada
- and the reasons for the thousands….. hundreds of thousands….. of women of non-Indian descent, as you say, “actually ending up with a guy who treated her like crap, and staying with him and putting up with it, because…..”, why, what's the "because" for these non-Indian women?
blow guy... by-the-by: I'm still waiting for the above (3) answers. Since you care to bump on in... waiting:
You want some answers, here's some answers.
1) If you'd done your homework instead of being the moron you always are, you would know that the violence against women that has been going on in the 'so-called' indo-canadian society has been committed (according to who the police arrested for it) by people who were born and raised in India, not Canada.
One does not cease to be a result of birth and upbringing in India (or any other country) the moment one steps off a plane in Canada with the intention of staying.
2) When examining the roots of a behaviour, I will ALWAYS draw back on the society within which that person was born and raised.
3) It has been shown in more studies than I can count (not that you bother to actually read studies or get your facts straight) that women who seek out and stay with abusive men are mostly (almost always) women who have come from families where either they or their mothers were similarly abused. This doesn't change between cultures from what I've seen. All that changes is the prevelence and severity of the abuse.
So, we're still waiting for your proof that the majority of Indo-Canadians are 3rd generation born in Canada. Or was it just your usual baseless bullshit?
And here lies the crux of the whole discussion… as you’ve danced all around it for months on end, spreading your innuendo and race-bait trap ever wider. Interesting to see you now pull back; that you now are accepting to attribute, as you say, “the violence against women to people who were born and raised in India, not Canada.” It’s clear you’re now having a hard time defining the actual Indo-Canadian community… particularly when someone calls you on your bullshit? You previously tried to have it both ways – you previously attempted to disparage both Indian immigrants (as in all Indian immigrants) along with the entire Indo-Canadian community, wherever that community may reside, in whatever locations (far and wide, large and small) across Canada. Trust in jj, master(race)baiter, extraordinaire!
Studies you say? – perhaps I’ve missed you presenting them – perhaps I’ve missed you offer up those studies that lay the foundation to support your, otherwise, baseless innuendo against the entire Indo-Canadian and Indian immigrant populations within Canada… you know, the ones that intricately define and link Indian violence against women to Indo-Canadian violence against women. Oh wait, sorry, you’ve now pulled back on your earlier assertions such that you’re no longer targeting Indo-Canadians – you’re simply speaking of “people who were born and raised in India, not Canada”… again, are ya having trouble defining that actual Indo-Canadian community?
In regards the U.S. cherry picking example and your little ditty concerning women who, as you say, “seek out and stay with abusive men”… I don’t automatically accept your assertion; however, it is interesting to see you again pull back in your comments to (now) suggest nothing particularly unique to the, as the woman in question was defined, “East-Indian” community… that it doesn’t, as you (now) say, “change between cultures from what I’ve seen”.
Statistics? Isn’t that what statscan is good at? Cause I bet they would draw out the clear distinctions between Indo-Canadians and (still) immigrants… I bet statscan would really help to clarify the countries of origin of immigrants whether that might be the U.S., Europe, Africa, East Asia or South-East Asia. I bet statscan would even help to place those Indo-Canadians and immigrants in their current locations (far and wide, large and small) across Canada. Hey, wasn’t there just a census?
Studies you say? – perhaps I’ve missed you presenting them – perhaps I’ve missed you offer up those studies that lay the foundation to support your, otherwise, baseless innuendo against the entire Indo-Canadian and Indian immigrant populations within Canada… you know, the ones that intricately define and link Indian violence against women to Indo-Canadian violence against women. Oh wait, sorry, you’ve now pulled back on your earlier assertions such that you’re no longer targeting Indo-Canadians – you’re simply speaking of “people who were born and raised in India, not Canada”… again, are ya having trouble defining that actual Indo-Canadian community?
In regards the U.S. cherry picking example and your little ditty concerning women who, as you say, “seek out and stay with abusive men”… I don’t automatically accept your assertion; however, it is interesting to see you again pull back in your comments to (now) suggest nothing particularly unique to the, as the woman in question was defined, “East-Indian” community… that it doesn’t, as you (now) say, “change between cultures from what I’ve seen”.
Statistics? Isn’t that what statscan is good at? Cause I bet they would draw out the clear distinctions between Indo-Canadians and (still) immigrants… I bet statscan would really help to clarify the countries of origin of immigrants whether that might be the U.S., Europe, Africa, East Asia or South-East Asia. I bet statscan would even help to place those Indo-Canadians and immigrants in their current locations (far and wide, large and small) across Canada. Hey, wasn’t there just a census?
