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rickoshadows

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The difference between smart, and smart-ass

By PATRICK VERT
Jan 18 2006

A common nugget of trivia is that the average I.Q. floats between 90 and 110. Anywhere upwards of 125 is exceptional. Contrary to popular belief, I.Q. tests do not measure intelligence per se, but rather your capacity to process information, both verbal and non-verbal. What is less celebrated than the average is this statistic: a full 25 percent of the general population have a very low I.Q. Half of the population could be classified as either low or mediocre at best. Sort of puts things into perspective, doesn’t it? Out of a population of 6 billion, 1.5 billion are, well . . . dull.
Of greater significance is what this implies. A strong majority of all humans cannot comprehend phenomena like satire, sarcasm and irony. If you are a person with a subtle-but-strong bite to their wit, chances are you have endured your fair share of accusations. You are a cynic. You have no tact. You have no faith in the essential kindness of others. Your bedtime stories frighten the nieces and nephews unreasonably. Your partner doesn’t want to take you to restaurants anymore because of the way you talk to the servers. That sort of thing.
For many of us—say, that other 25 percent well beyond the 110 quotient—such judgments are simply unavoidable. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that I.Q. tests are culturally biased and unreliable. Never mind that. I have important excuses to make for myself right now. No careful explanation will get me out of my many various daily verbal jams. An extreme example should help illustrate the point. Spike Lee begins his film Bamboozled with a dictionary definition of the word “satire.” Kevin Smith had a similar disclaimer for Dogma. They both knew the audience would hemorrhage into spasms of misunderstanding and outrage. As I recall, the warnings did not help one bit. In both cases I observed couples storming out of the theatre. The Oxford Standard Dictionary couldn’t save the filmmakers and it has never helped me all those times I attempted to assert a difference between the words “cynic” and “wise-ass.”
For many years I could not understand why my use of irony and sarcasm was being taken literally by so many people. I now see the problem as being one of mass incomprehension of just what exactly irony is (Alanis Morrissette comes to mind). Of course, there is a remote chance that I am simply a jerk. Naturally, instead of turning inward to my limitations I would rather choose to take refuge in the statistics. A strong majority of the population are not shooting across all their synapses.
Think back to the last time you got into a bad fight with a friend after a distasteful quip. You stormed out of that pub feeling partially incensed, partially guilty, and partially craving a pizza. You ordered that pizza, generously offered a slice to your roommates and solicited their advice. What you got in return was a lot of canned consolations about communication being The Key. You felt strangely unfulfilled. Maybe what you need is less communication. Perhaps it is high time you asked yourself, “is my friend stupid?” There is a 25 percent chance the answer is yes. Let me put this in terms of probability: one out of four of your friends are stupid. Those are good odds. Moreover, there’s a 50/50 shot your friend is just plain boring. Don’t pretend the thought hasn’t crossed your mind before.
The link between intelligence and an acute sense of humour is not entirely speculative. Research in cognitive development has long since identified the early emergence of an advanced sense of humour as a key characteristic of gifted children. According to one professor of education studies, Dr. Paul Jewell, understanding and creating humour requires the ability to relate complex levels of concepts, incongruities, as well as a highly developed sensitivity to other perspectives and beliefs.
Neurophysiologically, the comprehension of irony is directly related to higher brain functioning. For all intents and purposes, a joke starts in the language centre of the left hemisphere, moves to the frontal lobes and right hemisphere in order to process contradictions, literal meaning and social cues, and finally ends up in the ventromedial prefrontal cortex in order to flush out the funny from the person’s entire world of social and emotional knowledge. Interestingly, sarcasm—widely regarded as the lowest form of humour—is likewise processed by these higher brain functions. We have all had the experience of telling a joke that goes over the listener’s head. If any of the above discoveries are correct, such failures are not necessarily rooted in the joke’s delivery.
For these reasons my partner has a worse time of it than I do. She is a certified genius. Her logic is hot on overdrive compared to the rest of us plebs. To make matters worse, her humour is painfully British. Altogether, no one has any idea what dialect of gibberish she’s speaking. As if that isn’t aggravating enough, she has to take into account pesky social norms that dictate she can’t go around throttling people by the neck. Remember, communication is the key.
Don’t worry. My partner abides by that rule of thumb and puts up with the stigma of being an eccentric. Her problem, however, is easy enough to generalize to the masses. We have all been inside that conversation about our goofball relative, “I think Uncle Bob might not be firing on all cylinders
. . .” Silently, everyone agrees. Uncle Bob is a freak and his friends are idiots. Given all the facts above, I implore you, don’t give up on Bob. Tell him to ditch his friends and get out less. Communication is often a very rusty key and being considered anti-social is a small price to pay for contentment.
 

georgebushmoron

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I don't get it.
 

WABASH

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georgebushmoron said:
I don't get it.
You should.

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Bush had been admitted with an SAT score of 1206 (566 verbal, 640 math) which was low for Yale but perfectly respectable anywhere else. This would correlate to an approximate I.Q. of 129. In fact, a 1300 on the SAT would have been sufficient to join MENSA. So 1206 is a far cry from stupid.
 

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Sorry, Moz, both you and P.Vert are misinformed and your "information" is statistically inaccurate. IQ testing is part of my job as a child psychologist and I am an expert in this area. Please do not post bogus data.


---Dr. Moe
 

Very Veronica

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I would like to take you seriously but to do so would be an affront to your intelligence.

G. B. Shaw
 

rickoshadows

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Well done Veronica :p

Brandi, you just said what a lot of veiwers thought and were to lazy to post a snide reply, and now most are glad they didn't.

The essay above is less about IQ than it is about being able to interpret humour. It struck a chord with me as I have noticed that satire and irony go right by many posters like a concorde on a sunny day. I did not intend to make a specific comment about anyone's inteligence. Most people can do that very well for themselves.





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rickoshadows said:
The essay above is less about IQ than it is about being able to interpret humour. It struck a chord with me as I have noticed that satire and irony go right by many posters like a concorde on a sunny day.
I don't know if humour and IQ are that strongly correlated, but I do think that it requires good language skills ... and funny enough, women typically have better language skills and like people who can make them laugh.

I think humour also requires the ability to not take one's self too seriously which is a big problem here on perb ...

if you take every comment as a threat to your fragile ego you are not going to see or appreciate the subtle humour within it.
 

vancouverman

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LonelyGhost said:
I think humour also requires the ability to not take one's self too seriously which is a big problem here on perb ...
are you trying to say .. we should learn to laugh from our own jokes?


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Pizza? Why am I suddenly craving pizza?

If the planet Earth goes about the Sun counterclockwise does it matter that I am not wearing underpants?

Damn! Pesky underpants always manage to escape... and I will tell you that I did my doctorial defense whilst wearing underpants! I did, I did, I did! I am fairly confident that all members of the board were, too.

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rickoshadows said:
The essay above is less about IQ than it is about being able to interpret humour. It struck a chord with me as I have noticed that satire and irony go right by many posters like a concorde on a sunny day. I did not intend to make a specific comment about anyone's inteligence. Most people can do that very well for themselves.
What P. Vert says seems to apply even more here as facial expression, inflection and voice tone are not part of the equation. I, and i'm sure most others rely heavily on those things to understand how people mean things, perhaps that is why some are easily offended here.
I may have steered the thread away by posting that IQ Basics link. It was just to give some context and show what is meant when calling someone a moron or idiot.
 

vancouverman

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IDIOT .. can have a very wide meaning, and I think even having 100+ ... one can be an idiot at the same time.

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bigmoe69er

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No Moz....

Moz, your IQ categories followed by the respective score ranges are TOTALLY bogus and inaccurate. You have made up your own classification system based upon standard scores...this IS NOT how it is done. Standard scores are important but they do not always dictate cutoff points for IQ ranges when described categorically. Your point ranges as they relate to the categories are crude. Some of your category names are also bogus in terms of not being the correct terminology used with professionally administered IQ tests.


---Dr. Moe
 
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KingGeorge

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I'll try Brains for 100, Alex....

Well, Dr Moe, don't hang us out to dry. What are the correct IQ ranges and descriptions?
There's not point just saying someone else's data is wrong and that you should know, cuz you're an expert. Provide correct information and name the source.
 

bigmoe69er

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IQ Testing

KingGeorge said:
Well, Dr Moe, don't hang us out to dry. What are the correct IQ ranges and descriptions?
There's not point just saying someone else's data is wrong and that you should know, cuz you're an expert. Provide correct information and name the source.
It will be my pleasure, King George. I will use the Wechsler Intelligence Scale For Children-Fourth Edition and the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale-Third Edition as examples of correctly formulated classification systems:

Very Superior- 130 and above (130=2 standard deviations above mean)
Superior- 120-129
High Average- 110-119 (115=1 standard deviation above mean)
Average- 90-109 (100=mean=50th percentile)
Low Average- 80-89 (85=1 standard deviation below mean)
Borderline- 70-79
Mentally Deficient- below 70 (70=2 standard deviations below mean)


If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

---Dr. Moe
 

vancouverman

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darn .. and I always thought 69 was such a good number .....


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