What's with this "safe gfe" crap?

[BaBaBing]

I am sick and tired of hearing about “safe” GFE from some SP’s.
There is no such thing, it is GFE, and for those who seemed to forgotten it stands for Girl Friend Experience, which includes LFK/DFK, DATY, BJ, MSOG, IMO, if there is none of these then it is not GFE. I am not sure it even qualifies for FS.
But do not call it GFE. You kind of contradict yourself by calling it “safe GFE” when you can’t do certain elements of GFE. It is either GFE or it is not.
I went to visit Naomi/Lily on CL who is very good looking by the way, but she sprung this safe gfe crap on me. No kissing, must use protection for daty, bj and any thing else. So where does the gfe fit into that? You could call it SSS Super Safe Sex or NTE No Touching Experience.

 

[BaBaBing]

I'll give you the CBJ, but GFE is GFE, you can't change it.
Safe GFE is not GFE, so call it someting else.

 

[porcelianprincess]

I am sick and tired of hearing about “safe” GFE from some SP’s.
There is no such thing, it is GFE, and for those who seemed to forgotten it stands for Girl Friend Experience, which includes LFK/DFK, DATY, BJ, MSOG, IMO, if there is none of these then it is not GFE. I am not sure it even qualifies for FS.
But do not call it GFE. You kind of contradict yourself by calling it “safe gfe" any thing else. Experience.

I offer a safe gfe...cbj,msog, lfk/dfk the list goes on but the main one to me is cbj. IMO "gfe" is much more than just a checklist on a menu. I provide a very intimate personal session much that you would find with your girlfriend. The majority of my clients don't utilize all of my "menu" yet would agree to no end that I am gfe.

 

[BaBaBing]

Yet again "porcelianprincess" has a different interpition of a GFE. IMO your interpition is of a typical GFE and I would not say it is a "safe gfe"
I feel the term GFE is just that a checklist on a menu and it has to be more consistent from SP to SP otherwise it gets to be miss leading.

 

[BaBaBing]

well GFE can't be everything u can think of... unfortunately it is a checklist and not everyone will include everything that is on the check list. Best to find a girl that you can discuss your sessios before hand.. rather then taking the chance that she will give u the session you want. Just tell her what you want, she either offers it or she doesnt...

Hey if it had everything I can think of it would be called PSE... All I am saying is that if you give a service a name, then all sp's when offering that particular item in this case GFE should be offering the same thing. It like when I want a chocolate bar, I don't just order a chocolate bar I order a particular kind, ie mars bar, cause I know what is in a mars bar and what it is going to taste like from one bar to the next it never changes and I don't have to discuss with the store keeper if this mars bar has caramel or not or if it has nuts or not. It just makes it alot easier if it is all the same from menu to menu.
Oh and I do ask questions, bexause it has been so inconsistent from one SP to another. Just hope you girls don't mind.

 

[HB40]

It like when I want a chocolate bar, I don't just order a chocolate bar I order a particular kind, ie mars bar, cause I know what is in a mars bar and what it is going to taste like from one bar to the next it never changes and I don't have to discuss with the store keeper if this mars bar has caramel or not or if it has nuts or not. It just makes it alot easier if it is all the same from menu to menu.

What exactly are you looking for in a Mars bar again, you might not be happy with what you get there either if you don't pay attention.

YMMV

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Actually what the ladies provide is SP/GFE.
A real GFE is going purse shopping when there is a game on, fixing her car, cutting her lawn, helping her manage her finances, shovelling her walk, always picking up the tab, walking her dog, babysitting her cat when she's away,going to dinner with her sister and obnoxious brother-in-law when you could be at an MMA event, listening to her whine about her problems but not taking of your advice about to actually do about it, keeping a straight face and lying when she asks "do these jeans make me look fat?"


And that folks is why I'm divorced, single and pay for it.

 

[ThisEndUp]

best to wait for montreal girls with REAL gfe, less than safe gfe and no attitudes

maybe that is why local mp girls now use cl, business slow due to above?

 

[Pillowtalk]

afaik, gfe must include kissing, daty, msog, mpos, and a bj. The Safe is added to make sure you know the bj is a cbj not a bbbj, and that should be the only difference. Kissing might be dfk or lfk, but that might just be the sp's personal preference of style, but if she does not kiss then it is not GFE. And therefore the GFE term should not be used at all. After the basics are covered, then she may or may not include digits. Some do not for personal preference or because it is simply safer not to, but I don't think it must necessarily be included to be GFE. Maybe if she says safe GFE it means covered daty but it really should include daty regardless, not just sometimes. (all this is subject to the client meeting the basic cleanup requirements lol)

But in general I don't think sps should run around and re-interpret what GFE is or is not just because they don't want to kiss ever. They are free to not use the term at all and simply list off the services that they do provide and leave it at that. GFE also implies a more romantic approach, rather than an aggressive PSE approach. So an sp who can provide a conversation would use GFE and one who does accompanied showers, and so on.

 

[oilfieldtrash]

hmmm. yeh . I asked a lady the other day what was involved in her sgfe as her sgfe session was 50 bucks more than her fs. I dont fk at all, no daty (which i rarely partake) and cbj which is fine.. but i dont understand if there is absolutely no fk offered then how is this different than just basic fs. She said either way a second shot was no problem. but yeh ??

 

[fence]

Gotta say I agree with Moneymaker here. Pillowtalk hits the nail on the head as well.
"Bababing, good post. I agree. If your going to call it girl friend experience then do it. Every girlfriend I ever had did dfk, bbbj, plus everything else imaginable. If you don't do gfe than call it that way. No dfk, no bbbj, no nothing, maybe a hj, but I still want 240. Good luck!!!" Pillowtalk hits the nail on the head as well.

If a girl is offering a GFE it should include the positive things she is comfortable doing with her actual SO hence the name GFE. I never go for GFE if it's offered. I'm not up for the disappointment. Usually GFE acts are intensely personal and if the girl is not comfortable kissing a client but offers to for an extra charge how much fun is that for either of us. Same with other GFE services. It is cool when the provider is comfortable with and allows certain things without asking. It can take the session to another level. But that happens naturally for me or not at all.

What I find entertaining is that lately providers use GFE as a marketing tool with no intention of providing that actual service and then I read about it on the board and they've said "I offer 'safe' GFE." ...That doesn't exist. A BF/GF relationship is risky by nature because it's personal. Guys who ask for GFE are paying for that 'personal' investment for their money. Is it any wonder they're pissed off when someone says "GFE" and then tells them "safe" when they are disappointed but the moneys already been set?

That's 'bait and switch' and it's illegal. Not that anyone's gonna file a complaint.

Except maybe here.

Like I said I don't ask for it. I do this for the sex. Hopefully awesome sex with a professional instead of mediocre sex with the average lady I can score with at the bar. That's why I'm on the board . Too find those gifted women who are really good at this. Most of them don't kiss me.

I'm cool with that.

 

[BaBaBing]

Thanks for the support PillowTalk, Moneymaker and ThisEndUp.
Would be nice to see local SP get the lingo right, but until then we will have to be asking them to explain the menu in detail....or wait for the Montreal girls, they know what GFE means.

Get it together girls!!

 

[jim]

Okay it is definitely time.

It's not that I disagree but do we need a thread a week on this topic?

 

[chanelxoxo]

I don't see why this is even something to complain about!! Who cares if a girl says SAFE GFE or just GFE, thats how we are letting you know what we offer. You boys obviously know SAFE GFE is basically nothing BB and GFE is obviously things like BBBJ etc. But like alyson was saying...each girl has her own way of letting you know what she offers. All i can say is why complain about something that will never change. How about something positive for a change This case is closed

 

[wolverine]

I don't see why this is even something to complain about!! Who cares if a girl says SAFE GFE or just GFE, thats how we are letting you know what we offer. You boys obviously know SAFE GFE is basically nothing BB and GFE is obviously things like BBBJ etc. But like alyson was saying...each girl has her own way of letting you know what she offers. All i can say is why complain about something that will never change. How about something positive for a change This case is closed

Because if each SP makes up her own definition of GFE, then the acronym is rendered meaningless to the rest of us.

But at least it has earned its own wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

I am going to punch the horse now.

 

[HB40]

I don't see why this is even something to complain about!!

I'm not complaining, well not about this. I complain about important things, like your pussy being too tight, your shoes making you too tall and that damn burning mouthwash!

Am I part Safe GFE, part GFE, and part PSE?

You are the WHOLE package sexy!

 

[AreWeThereYet]

If you want great GFE times they are available closer than montreal. Just come to victoria . The girls are great, prices cheaper and open late.

 

[chanelxoxo]

haha your sure right about that one

 

[Kashs]

I don't see why this is even something to complain about!! Who cares if a girl says SAFE GFE or just GFE, thats how we are letting you know what we offer. You boys obviously know SAFE GFE is basically nothing BB and GFE is obviously things like BBBJ etc. But like alyson was saying...each girl has her own way of letting you know what she offers.

Hey, Chanel , the problem is that some SPs tells a client that she offers GFE or even Safe GFE for $$$, so the client agrees. But once the session starts, the SP may tell him that kissing is not included, or DATY is not included, or MSOG is not included. That's when the problem starts: the guy is pissed because he just got ripped off, lol.

 

[Dark_Knight]

I thought Safe GFE was that you don't have to worry about her taking your house when you split up.