What the Hell is Going on in Alberta?

[johnsmit]

Peace guy.. is missing one important point..
Sex is a natural bofy function.. and is protected under the charter from regulation or restriction..

Pot... drugs .. alcohol... are pricesssed and aditive . and hsve federsl laws thst regulat them
Shiting.. peeing . eating... I dont see a anything that makes them illegal either.. so i guess they mudt
be legal to do..

As it is in my little town . they licens escort agrncies... and they know people come there and pay to have sex.

The girl also must have mobil escort licenses to be able to work from these agencies.. or to even work as esckrts in Victoria... acording to a bylaw of Victoria.... I personally think both bylaws are illegal.. but again. k ow one whats to chalange them . because it means being outed....

Fear and intimadation.is how unjust and illegal law are allowed to stand..
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[Pantherdash]

Peace guy.. is missing one important point..
Sex is a natural bofy function.. and is protected under the charter from regulation or restriction..

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I assume you're referring to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

If so, where does the Charter specifically mention natural body function?

Panther

 

[phreak]

Peace guy.. is missing one important point..
Sex is a natural bofy function.. and is protected under the charter from regulation or restriction..

Pot... drugs .. alcohol... are pricesssed and aditive . and hsve federsl laws thst regulat them
Shiting.. peeing . eating... I dont see a anything that makes them illegal either.. so i guess they mudt
be legal to do..

As it is in my little town . they licens escort agrncies... and they know people come there and pay to have sex.

The girl also must have mobil escort licenses to be able to work from these agencies.. or to even work as esckrts in Victoria... acording to a bylaw of Victoria.... I personally think both bylaws are illegal.. but again. k ow one whats to chalange them . because it means being outed....

Fear and intimadation.is how unjust and illegal law are allowed to stand..
..

Interesting point: if sex is a natural healthy activity, and hence, shouldn't be regulated or restricted, why paying for having this activity should be illegal? It's like prosecuting those why have paid gym membership.

 

[Pantherdash]

Interesting point: if sex is a natural healthy activity, and hence, shouldn't be regulated or restricted, why paying for having this activity should be illegal? It's like prosecuting those why have paid gym membership.

We should be able to get prescriptions from our doctors for sex, massage and companionship! Seriously! There's solid, but little-known research, proving how good touch, sex, massage, orgasms, etc. are for us! I believe it so much I've been marketing myself as a sensual Therapist for the last year!

Can you tell I'm passionate about this topic?

I recently looked at the Cornell University Urology Department webpage regarding ED. They have 2 methods for dealing with it - surgery or medication! OMG - there are many SP's right here in BC who could testify to the definite therapeutic benefits of our sessions!

While I strongly agree with the both of you, how far do you think that argument would go with Stephen Harper and his cronies?

Panther

 

[CLUB78]

Following the Supreme Court ruling in December all the provinces practically stopped prosecution on prostitution related charges until the laws are rewritten. The only exception is Alberta where the Justice Minister suggested to prosecute (persecute?) 'men who buy sex from prostitutes': http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/A...d+pursue+johns+prostitutes/9468321/story.html

How the hell is it possible? Paying for sex has never been a crime in Canada, and the criminal code is exactly the same in any Canadian province, so there is no way Alberta can come up with its own criminal code. Still Alberta Justice Minister has publicly announced that he will direct prosecutors to charge law abiding citizens with a non-existent 'crime'. And he can actually do it without being impeached, possibly arrested and prosecuted himself? Can anybody clarify it for me?

As someone who has been falsely arrested in Alberta (on what was admitted to the press at a later date to be made up charges...or a "computer error"), fuckers there can do what they want. I was protesting to support Gwen Jacobsen's topfree movement on steps of the AB legislature and they didn't much like it.

Next day they came to my house, said I had a "failure to appear", and basically threw me in a cell and gave me a hard time to teach me a lesson.

!!!Alberta: Never Again!!!

 

[johnsmit]

Yes they are one of the provinces where they take drunk natives . out if town . in freezing weather.. and tell them to walk home.. a lot have froze to death... They were only trying to teach them a leason

 

[phreak]

While I strongly agree with the both of you, how far do you think that argument would go with Stephen Harper and his cronies?

Panther

It's not really Harper's fault: these issues have been around for decades, and only now they are being resolved. Harper is actually doing the right thing when it comes to the government questionnaire on prostitution issues. The real problem is that Canadians are too uptight about sex (except Quebec), and the existing prostitution laws is just the reflection of this sad fact.

 

[CLUB78]

Yes they are one of the provinces where they take drunk natives . out if town . in freezing weather.. and tell them to walk home.. a lot have froze to death... They were only trying to teach them a leason

The racism towards First Nations people in AB is astonishing. I had friends who wouldn't get served in restaurants, and when I had dark hair and a tan, I had people call me a "chug". Yes, they still use that term, often.

 

[johnsmit]

Yah your right.. we are so programed to follow the regulation.. and in most cases the regulation and belaws governing acceptable behavour .. are common scense.. where we shit and pee..and eat while in the city.. is all about decency and hygiene.. all so sex is regulated that way too I was was mainly say we had the right to do those things.. including fucking.. of couse where .. how.. when. and what . are regulated.. It not acceptable to have sex in public.. but people like to do it . Out side of civalization... most of those regulations are uninforceable

But when you stop and think about it ... we are regulated.. legidlated.. and restricted by laws up the ass..
A great free and democratic society..and we are still better then most.

So when it comes down to putting all these laws on selling . and buying sex.. or not allowed to .. I can finally understand where it comes from . Goverment has been listing to different groups all along .. that te them what is best for every one to follow.. and this is just more of the same . there need to regulat and dictate. what other should do to conform...

I guess we must turn the other cheek .and for give time.. they think it is all for our own good...

 

[phreak]

Ummm. To clarify your obvios misconception, you cannot be "criminally" charged with something that is not in the criminal code. You can however be charged with an unlawful act for something that is covered by a provincial act or regulation. The legal limit of blood alcohol content while driving is set in provincal law. You can go to jail for breaking that law. The taking of ammonites (a specific type of fossil) is illegal in Alberta. The act of tresspassing is covered by provincial law, as is the hunting of game animals. Just because the feds don't make something illegal does not mean that you have a legal right to do something or that the rules are the same from province to province.

PeaceGuy, there is no misconception here: criminal charges are way more serious and punishment is way more severe. There are provincial laws and city by-laws, but getting a ticket or a criminal record and possibly going to jail for an extended period makes a big difference. That's why any non-criminal prosecution is usually minor and can be easily dealt with unlike the criminal one.

 

[phreak]

I don't consider 2 years in prison to be minor, which some existing provincial laws have as a penalty. But again, the issue isn't how onerously harsh the maximum penalties are between provincial laws and federal, but rather that if the Feds don't address prostitution, the provinces still can. Regardless of the length of prison term one is potentially facing, few people want to experience the publicity of being brought to court on prostitution related charges.

Are you serious: 2 years in jail for a non-criminal offence? IMPOSSIBLE!!! Could you give me an example?