What mistakes are women supposedly prone to during sex? [repost due to poll error]

Do you agree with Option A or B?

  • 1A. I typically find sex with SPs hotter (purely as sex) than with civvies.

    Votes: 8 57.1%
  • 1B. I typically find sex with civvies hotter than with SPs.

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • 2A. Most women think most guys are pretty lousy in bed.

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • 2B. Most women think most guys are great in bed.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • 3A. A checklist of "sexual mistakes men or women make" is silly and juvenile.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • 3B. Reading an experienced person's list of "sexual mistakes" is fun and (mildly) instructive.

    Votes: 9 64.3%

  • Total voters
    14

tantalizeme

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http://whgbetc.com/40-mistakes.htm
http://whgbetc.com/50-mistakes.htm

Just finished reading the second of two cheeky checklists: "Forty mistakes men make when having sex with a woman" & "Fifty mistakes women make when having sex."

The latter was (supposedly) compiled by a woman who sure sounds like a dude-loving mama, with tons of frontline experience. My heart goes out to her—would dearly love a chance to ramboozle this lady!

My heart also goes out to PlayfulAlex , for steering me toward these lists.https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...r-the-Women-on-what-gives-you-the-best-orgasm

They nicely spell out what I`ve long felt: men and women might get along better if they learnt to tune into each other`s erotic frequencies.

Women notoriously complain that men are often lousy in bed. I`ve found, women too have lots to learn sexually. Few people have the natural gift to give a partner optimum bliss.

Women differ as much as men, of course, in their erotic predilections, so generalizations are risky—and what`s a "mistake" for one person might be a turn-on for another.

But personally I think, the feisty author of "50 mistakes women make..." got more things right than wrong. Women motivated to please men, including perhaps some SPs, could do worse than look through this list.
 
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tantalizeme

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My comments on a few alleged "mistakes" women make when having sex

I`m the first to admit: I can get a little obsessive when something interests me.

So here`re my annotations to the checklist of "50 mistakes women make when having sex." http://whgbetc.com/50-mistakes.htm

I`ll only comment on an alleged "mistake" if I agree or disagree strongly—always with an eye to my experience with SPs. I`m inclined to cut civvies more slack. Even highly imperfect sex is usually good enough for me when it`s free.

A list of pointers can be a fine conversation starter. But when it comes to sex, I believe actually experimenting is better than talking too much about one`s preferred DOs & DON`TS. So I`d probably not discuss this list with a "prospect" until we`ve built solid sexual momentum.

Mistake 1: "Getting it hard is your [the woman`s] job." I don`t agree. With SPs where time is limited, it`s often more efficient if a man takes the job of making it hard into his own practiced hand. Especially older men—and those who`re a bit jaded—often need a higher degree of lusty buildup to get aroused, and an SP`s restrictions or a new partner`s idiosyncracies can be distracting.

For some men, achieving an erection is somewhat analogous to women achieving orgasm: they need to be relatively free from worries, annoyances and distractions.

Mistake 3: "Leaving him responsible for your orgasm." Totally true, IMO. If a woman doesn`t even know how to get herself off—or doesn`t let the man know about some special requirement—don`t blame me for joyously shooting my load and leaving her high and dry!

Mistake 4: "Expecting him to cuddle." With congenial SPs I usually cuddle and talk because post-coital sleep isn`t feasible. But with SO`s, yes, being allowed to pass out after sex is great.

Mistake 7: "Being selfish in bed." Well, I prefer women who make sure they get their share of pleasure. But no man likes a narcissistic bitch who bosses him around.

Mistake 9: "Whining when he pushes your head down on his dick..." I shouldn`t have to push her head down, but if necessary, I just give it a friendly nudge. A good sex partner should pick up a man`s clues in this respect and not delay too long before proceeding to a BJ. Nipple-nibbling is, for most men, a total time waster.

Mistake 10: "Not moving at all." Absolutely. No guy likes a dead fish in bed, except perhaps necrophiliacs.

Mistake 12: "Not shaving your legs." Not a biggie for me, though of course smooth legs are better. But since I usually give my SPs either stockings or pantyhose to wear, I haven`t experienced scratchy legs in ages. (The pantyhose also covers any midriff imperfections.)

Mistake 13: Not shaving or at least trimming your bush (I`m paraphrasing here). To be sure, some guys have a "hairy" fetish, but that`s probably a minority in the West. I appreciate a smooth-shaven clam whose lovely features aren`t hidden underneath a wiry tangle of hair—which also gets in the way during DATY.

Mistake 14: "Assuming that sex means a relationship." Ah, how true! Civvies my age, or close enough to want to hop into the hay with me, tend to equate sex with the start of something "meaningful" and get awfully clingy. Avoiding such clinginess—Shakespeare`s famous "fury" of "a woman scorned"—is probably why many men who could seduce civvies prefer to seek out SPs.

Mistake 17: "Leaving condoms up to him." Yes, sexually active women should be keenly contraception- and safety-conscious. But personally, I`ve a size problem with most condoms, so I always bring my own.

Mistake 18: Stop being a sissy "when he talks dirty." Couldn`t agree more: God, I love a dirty-talking lady who sounds like she means it. If you try to make me feel guilty about anything I say when I talk dirty, better kiss good-bye any hopes of me wanting to bang you ever again.

Mistake 19: Refusing to have "sex OUTSIDE of the bedroom". Most civvies are awfully fussy about settings and atmosphere. They want clean sheets and shower facilities nearby, a comfortable room temperature, and God knows what else. There`re probably evolutionary reasons for this, but it`s still frustrating when I want to be spontaneous and drag her into a stall in a restaurant men`s room or lean her against a tree in the park at night and pull down her skirt and panties.

SPs are generally even more restrictive: they don`t know and trust most of their clients enough to do anything "outside the bedroom", except for those who specialize in car dates (often druggies, it seems). So guys are mostly out of luck on this one.

Mistake 20: Refusing "quickies." Right on—big mistake if a woman wants to hold on to a guy. John Gray stressed this in Mars and Venus in the Bedroom. He says women need to be available for quickies, and men need to become skilled at DATY, if there`s going to be lasting harmony between a couple.

Mistake 21: Being unclear about what your limits are—and then giving the man a hard time if he misunderstood and "poke you in the butt." I initially thought this point was encouraging women to provide backdoor access. But it`s really about expressing your restrictions with sufficient clarity so that even dumbass guys get the message. I agree: state your off-the-menu items (which are hopefully few) in a clear but friendly way. I`ll always respect them, though I`ll give you ample chance to reconsider and expand your horizons over time.

Mistake 23: Trying to have sex in the dark. We men need visuals during sex like we need air to breathe. I no longer frequent AMPs very often because I don`t like sex in the dark. Most AMPs turn down the light way too low, largely because they`re legally required to have doors with unobstructed windows.

Mistake 24: "Refusing to get on top." Or refusing any position request, for that matter. A dealbreaker for me, which means no tip and certainly no repeat. And doing a whopping ACG is important, in my book, for any SP or GF of mine.

Mistake 25: "Getting that bored look on your face." All too familiar in the context of play-for-pay. Never happened to me with Indy SPs or most Asian SPs I see, but I still remember some ladies at Western MPs who looked bored, went through the motions passively and mechanically, and seemed totally detached from the present moment. Affects my arousal like a cold shower. Any SP that can stand her job only by dissociating is in the wrong profession.

Mistake 29: "Refusing to let him take control." Some men prefer a woman to take control in bed. But most men, including myself, find it important to their arousal to make whatever moves their spur-of-the-moment desires dictate, and that means a sense of being in reasonable control. That doesn`t mean a woman`s initiatives, and certainly her enthusiastic participation, aren`t usually welcome too. But women don`t have an erection to maintain—big difference.

Mistake 37: "Taking things way too seriously." Totally agree, sex is for play—don`t saddle it with crazy-making expectations. Go with the flow, dare to experiment, and and above all, smile a lot and laugh off little accidents, awkwardness or clumsiness. But a lady should never be exposed to serious risk of injury (e.g. by having sex at the edge of a cliff).

Mistake 38: "Throwing shit-fit when he asks for a 3-some." Most GFs I`ve had would indeed have thrown a fit at the suggestion. So I`m happy I held out and didn`t marry any of these prudes.

Mistake 43: "Faking orgasms." We all know—SPs often fake orgasms to butter up a pooner`s ego. Some guys say they mind, but I`m fine one way or the other. But in a relationship, it`s self-defeating for a woman to make her guy think he`s doing everything right when he clearly isn`t.

Mistake 47: "Doing all-of-your-before-bed-things before sex." Had a GF once who was doing laundry and other stuff, so it was after midnight when we got around to sex. By that time, my interest had nose-dived. Didn`t last long in that relationship. And by all means, make yourself a little pretty before sex, put on sexy lingerie, don`t wash off all the makeup just because it`s bedtime.
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Giving it a rest now. For all it`s worth, I commented here on the "40 mistakes men make...": https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?189266-Sexual-DOs-amp-DON-Ts-how-do-SPs-differ-from-civvies

Must say, I`ve done a lot of things in life that were less fun than thinking through these two lists.:)
 
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yazoo

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I struggled with those questions, which I answered before reading the article.

I typically find sex with SPs hotter (purely as sex) than with civvies.
With this one there is a big difference between the 1 hour sessions that I can afford in Vancouver, and the all day sessions I can afford overseas. In a one-hour session with a new partner, things are a little awkward as you get to know each other. But with an overnighter you have meals together, you hang out at clubs together, you can get to the point where you click. And now you have two things. You have all the passion of a new relationship, combined the the sexual experience and lack of inhibitions of a pro SP.

So I clicked on option A - but could just as easily clicked on option B.

Most women think most guys are pretty lousy in bed...
I suppose women who routinely pick up men are no different from men who routinely pick up women. After a while you have a good idea how someone will perform. Sometimes you are wrong - but only sometimes.

As far as spending time reading the lists - I'd rather feed a few drinks to an SP and have her laugh and tell me funny war stories. And then have her explain how she likes her DATY.

Also I don't need a gal who's super PSE. As long as they are obviously into what they are doing and enjoying themselves, that's good enough - and far better than an SP who can DT you to the balls but acts like she just wants you to finish and get out.
 

Justin Beaver

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I find sex with SPs generally to be much hotter than with 99% of the civvies I've dated.There were a couple exceptional women I dated that really loved sex and were astute enough to know that good chemistry and great sex were enough to keep me loyal and committed as opposed to the usual relationship "talks" and rules and regulations.

With a good SP,I find I can just enjoy the sex and enjoy the moment and not have to worry about when the relationship BS is about to start up again.I've encountered a number of civilian women that try to take advantage of the tender moments after sex and start asking stuff like "where do see this relationship going?","do you see yourself having a family someday?",or worse "how many women have you slept with".Fuck,talk about a buzzkill.How about we talk about that kinda stuff some other time?
 

Elmore

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For me, the biggest myth is that sex with a SP is better than with a civvie. There are some civvies who apparently don't like sex...I have never been with one. Those are the sorts of things you discuss in advance to determine compatibility. Admittedly most don't want/need sex 3 times a day. But when it comes right down to the act of sex and overall "performance", 10 of my top 10 sexual experiences (with different women) have been with civvies.
 

george.caruthers

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Having sex with me?

No, I take that back. Women who are having sex can't make a mistake. Especially if you tell them they made a mistake. If you ever do that, forget about ever having sex with her again!

Women are perfect. Haven't they told you that enough yet?

:D
 
Having sex with me?

No, I take that back. Women who are having sex can't make a mistake. Especially if you tell them they made a mistake. If you ever do that, forget about ever having sex with her again!

Women are perfect. Haven't they told you that enough yet?

:D
You perfect too, hun! Have a great weekend.

xox
~V~
;)
 
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westcoast555

http://whgbetc.com/40-mistakes.htm
http://whgbetc.com/50-mistakes.htm

Just finished reading the second of two cheeky checklists: "Forty mistakes men make when having sex with a woman" & "Fifty mistakes women make when having sex."

The latter was (supposedly) compiled by a woman who sure sounds like a dude-loving mama, with tons of frontline experience. My heart goes out to her—would dearly love a chance to ramboozle this lady!

My heart also goes out to PlayfulAlex , for steering me toward these lists.https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...r-the-Women-on-what-gives-you-the-best-orgasm

They nicely spell out what I`ve long felt: men and women might get along better if they learnt to tune into each other`s erotic frequencies.

Women notoriously complain that men are often lousy in bed. I`ve found, women too have lots to learn sexually. Few people have the natural gift to give a partner optimum erotic bliss.

Women differ as much as men, of course, in their erotic predilections, so generalizations are risky—and what`s a "mistake" for one person might be a turn-on for another.

But personally I think, the feisty author of "50 mistakes women make..." got more things right than wrong. Women motivated to please men, including perhaps some SPs, could do worse than look through this list.
In principle, those kinds of lists can be silly... reading even the first dozen or so made me smile and seemed to be right on the money. Every guy should read that list. If you already know most of the items it will make you smile in memory of the times that taught you what she`s talking about. If you don`t know... you should definitely take note. Very accurate!
 
As I know I am many civvies ( lol I find it so funny calling them that ) and some clients best sexual experience I am not to worried about how I preform in bed but my biggest two things I worry about with new clients are:

1. Does he want me to use my hand while I'm giving him an amazing BJ or no hand ? Most prefer with, I think. I tend to mix it up and go on body language but will sometimes ask. I haven't had any complaints so far.

2. Does he want me to suck his balls as well as lick them ?

What are your guys opinion ? Or should this be an entirely different thread ?

Different thread...lol....and please, make it a poll question!!!! :pound:
 

PlayfulAlex

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Definitely depends on the guy. I can't believe there are guys out there who are totally fine getting a bj without use of a hand. With that said, some guys swear by sucking on the balls and the one time a woman did that to me I definitely did not like that.
LOL, if I wanted a hand I'd use my own.
I'd rather be somewhere warm and moist so no hands please.
As for sucking on my nuts, pass on that one.
Communication is not a lost art around here!

Do you like this?

YES!

NO!


It's a good thing that I pay attention!
 

erotq

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Not enough dam eye contact!

http://whgbetc.com/40-mistakes.htm
http://whgbetc.com/50-mistakes.htm

just finished reading the second of two cheeky checklists: "forty mistakes men make when having sex with a woman" & "fifty mistakes women make when having sex."

the latter was (supposedly) compiled by a woman who sure sounds like a dude-loving mama, with tons of frontline experience. My heart goes out to her—would dearly love a chance to ramboozle this lady!

My heart also goes out to playfulalex , for steering me toward these lists.https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...r-the-women-on-what-gives-you-the-best-orgasm

they nicely spell out what i`ve long felt: Men and women might get along better if they learnt to tune into each other`s erotic frequencies.

Women notoriously complain that men are often lousy in bed. I`ve found, women too have lots to learn sexually. Few people have the natural gift to give a partner optimum bliss.

Women differ as much as men, of course, in their erotic predilections, so generalizations are risky—and what`s a "mistake" for one person might be a turn-on for another.

But personally i think, the feisty author of "50 mistakes women make..." got more things right than wrong. Women motivated to please men, including perhaps some sps, could do worse than look through this list.
 

PlayfulAlex

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Oh Gawd Alex, don’t pay attention to me!
I’m weird and may skew the results of your study ;)
It's ok, but if you like it too much one day, and then you don't like it all the next day, that'll be too confusing for me. I do tend to like a little consistency!

PS I already knew that you were weird, but thanks for the friendly warning! :pound:
 

Ms. Yoko Anna

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I just skimmed through the 40 mistakes men make in bed, and I found it pretty silly.

All the stuff she complains in the list can be avoided if she communicate with the person in basic level.
Sex is a communicative tool aside from its original reproductive purpose.
My conclusion on this is she is not a good communicator, therefore probably not good in bed.

However, I do agree with the last point.
40: thanking her.
A good bed manner should start from appreciation, I believe.

If you take this list seriously and avoid all the 40 supposedly mistakes that can happen in bed, you will end up equally bad lover. Your lady may like squeezing tits, dirty talk, and/or simple quickie that does not involve kissing and foreplay. It is really up to the two (or more) individuals who perform the activity.
 
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