What makes a guy a "high value" client?

[huggzy]

Hey. I just got here. Who is this donkey pit anyways? Can he not grasp that the ladies treat all their regular joe clients with the same care & effort and they treat the whiney mouth breathers like the third class rubes that they are.?

Fuck me, do you tards not even bother to consider the question being asked? If a guy is spending a thousand, or thousands, on a woman every month, is it hard to grasp that she may step it up a bit more UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE GUY TREATS HER WELL DURING THEIR TIME TOGETHER?

When was the last time the OP gave his SP a foot massage? On the clock? Or visited a MP & brought a treat? For all the ladies on shift? Or dressed up in a Barny the Dinosaur costume & covered her next appointment for her? (OK, I haven't done the last one myself.... Yet!).?

...AGAIN...UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE GUY DOES TREAT HER WELL ALREADY...

In other words, what have you, the client, brought to the table out of plain human kindness. Where have you gone that extra mile in a meaningful personal way?

...AND AGAIN...UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE GUY DOES TREAT HER WELL ALREADY. Why would this thread question have anything to do with how I personally treat my SP's when I see them?

You morons make it sound like SP's are seeing you simply out of the goodness of their hearts. That isn't the case - this is how they make a living. So why wouldn't an SP step it up for a guy who might spend in multiples more on a regular basis with them then some tard who doesn't understand that a half-hour once a year might not carry the same weight with them.

I have no doubt that the intelligent ladies do step it up. What I find really surprising is how many guys here would seem to be genuinely offended if that reality was disclosed to them.

Do you actually feel the same way when the high-roller in the casino gets comped all his meals, drinks, and other amenities when you have to pay $5 for your diet 7-up? Of course you don't...because you "get it" in that instance. Why on earth do you think this business would be any different?

Christ - you even see it in many ladies advertised pricing. Some have F/S rates, and add extra for a GFE, and then extra for PSE, and it goes on...why is this concept any different?

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

Hi Huggzy, PeaceGuy, HB40,, PillowTalk, Lonelygoer, Bjhunter ...just HoPPing in to say Hello from the carrot patch ...

Boys ...if you can't all start to get along I will have to separate you. Hmmm, I just found out I've been spelling 'separate' wrong my entire life!

Who knew?

Oh, the thread, sorry. Um, Huggzy have you ever tipped me at all, even once? No. Do you feel I extend 'special' treatment to you in anyway? I hope so. Why? Because you are a human being. The ladies replying within this thread are not the ladies who might be cutting deals and providing drastically different levels of service simply to make higher tips. The ladies, in my opinion, who reply and speak up here are the type of people who share a few things with me and that includes a higher level of respect for people overall ...that includes clients, Tim Horton staff ...I think perhaps you would be reading different answers if an entirely different group of ladies decided to start replying. Just my opinion.

BunnyHugs
JessicaPRabbit

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

hmmmmm ...I guess it's fair to say we all behave a bit differently with different clients due to different chemistry. Would anyone consider my efforts with one compared to another to be 'stepping it up'? I suppose they would if they knew what was going on within a session that they were not part of, which is not going to happen. Anything that you 'hear' happened in a session which may make you think there is 'better' or 'worse' treatment dependant on $$'s spent in a month is likely gossip, hearsay and completely unreliable. I think some of the ladies are also getting offended because the things that go on in any one session with any one client is rather intimate and private and to be honest no one else's business.

I understand your frustration Huggzy, you are a total sweet heart, you've proven that to me time and time again. Please don't beat yourself up hoping for an answer that is highly unlikely to come your way ...it's really none of your business ...it is however our business and I think your implying you that you 'know' what is going on is upsetting some of the ladies. Perhaps it's time to let this go quiet ?
Listen ..shhhhhhhhh ....it's peace and quiet
BunnyHugs
JessicaPRabbit

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

Wait ...PG ...I never said 'no' in anyway to the Barney the Dinosaur costume. Why would you go and take that from me now? Please don't take away my dinosaur fantasy ...

So jessica,

I take that as a "no thank you" for the Barney the Dinosaur costume offer?

 

[HB40]

Please don't take away my dinosaur fantasy ...

Gee, I thought you were getting that with Jim.

 

[huggzy]

Hi Huggzy, PeaceGuy, HB40,, PillowTalk, Lonelygoer, Bjhunter ...just HoPPing in to say Hello from the carrot patch ...

Boys ...if you can't all start to get along I will have to separate you. Hmmm, I just found out I've been spelling 'separate' wrong my entire life!

Who knew?

Oh, the thread, sorry. Um, Huggzy have you ever tipped me at all, even once? No. Do you feel I extend 'special' treatment to you in anyway? I hope so. Why? Because you are a human being. The ladies replying within this thread are not the ladies who might be cutting deals and providing drastically different levels of service simply to make higher tips. The ladies, in my opinion, who reply and speak up here are the type of people who share a few things with me and that includes a higher level of respect for people overall ...that includes clients, Tim Horton staff ...I think perhaps you would be reading different answers if an entirely different group of ladies decided to start replying. Just my opinion.

BunnyHugs
JessicaPRabbit

Jessica, do you want to know something...one of the reasons I've contemplated this question was specifically because of you and your interaction with me? For those people who've never had the pleasure of having any kind of interaction with this woman then you are missing out on a special human being. And for all accounts she is clearly one of the most popular SP's in Alberta as well.

I live in Victoria and Jessica is in Edmonton, and I've never met Jessica in person in my life - I've only chatted with her online, by text and by phone. For all intents and purposes there is very little promise that we may ever cross paths in person as I don't really have occasion to travel to Edmonton, and she's never found occasion to come to BC in her life (at least not until two weeks from now when she comes to Vancouver for the first time)

For all the potential clients out there in this great big world, I'd suggest that due to our proximities that I wouldn't necessarily be very high up on her potential target market list.

Funny thing though, is that Jessica goes way above and beyond to make a person feel special. She's sent me pm's, and text messages, and emails, and has sent them for no rhyme nor reason - she just sends them out of the blue just to make you feel special because she's thinking about you...even if its just a smiley or a simple "I was thinking of you". And she clearly does this with the intention of making you feel special.

It may seem like such a little thing, but it is such a big thing too. Its one thing for the guy to send a text to an SP because he's horny or he's thinking about her, but its quite another when a gorgeous little thing like her (who makes her living by providing her love) has a special thought and takes time out of her day to do that for you when normally most SP's would hardly go out of their way to do anything for a guy unless you're already handing over cash to them.

I'd suggest that there are very few SP's out here that do that kind of simple gesture with all, or with most, or even with some of their very good clients unless maybe they've already set up their appointment and its just part of the build up to it - unless they're looking to maintain their "most valued" client base, which was the point I was getting at.

And since Jessica has been doing this, I had started wondering if there are ladies out there that do these types of gestures (maybe one of many other kinds of gestures), just as a part of their business model, for their very special clients. There is no way that a typical SP could find the time of day to do this with each and every client of theirs out there - they'd have to narrow down their call list.

I keep asking myself, "does Jessica actually do this with all her clients - never mind her potential clients???" I've never even seen her before, but this is a big effort on her part and is something that I've never had an SP do before on a regular basis (at least not to this extent). Jessica may very well be the type of person that does do this kind of thing for everyone she ever meets...I can't tell you one way or the other. But I do know that its not common for others to do this kind of thing.

This is the extra special kind of service I was thinking about when I asked the question. Its just the nice and special touches. And the gestures. And going out of the way for those "special" guys.

She steps up and I have yet to even spend a nickel on her. It makes me wonder what her company would really be like if given the chance to see her. And it makes me wonder even how much more love might she give to a repeat client who treated her really, really well in return. I'd be willing to bet that she is an SP who can think of the little things that most others don't, just based on that kind of tiny little interaction that I've had with her alone. I'm well aware of how much the guys in Alberta rave about her to the point where it sounds like its embellishment - but I have no doubt that they aren't embellishing.

That kind of service takes a huge amount of time and energy. She might possibly be the kind of girl who may be able to do that for everyone, but most girls wouldn't have the energy to do that except with a select few guys.

And I was just wondering what kind of client it takes in order to get an SP to step up their game in a manner similar to that example.

 

[huggzy]

WOW.... you take this topic very seriously. I don't ever wanna get into a debate with you

About as seriously as we take the MMA stuff!

 

[HB40]

And I was just wondering what kind of client it takes in order to get an SP to step up their game in a manner similar to that example.

Isn't it obvious huggzy, the kind of client an SP will step up their game for is just like you. Whats your secret?

Thanks for sharing though, Jessica is exceptional.

 

[huggzy]

Isn't it obvious huggzy, the kind of client an SP will step up their game for is just like you. Whats your secret?

Thanks for sharing though, Jessica is exceptional.

Seriously...I don't understand why you'd be so offended by my putting this query out there. I'm not debating an SP's right to charge whatever it is that they want, or implying that an SP must give anything more than they already do in any event.

Its just that an SP, like any provider of any service, could always find a way to put just that little more effort in things for that special client than they might not normally do for their other hundred clients. And we all know that cash currency is at the end of the day what puts a roof over our heads and food on the table for the kids.

 

[HB40]

I think some of the ladies are also getting offended because the things that go on in any one session with any one client is rather intimate and private and to be honest no one else's business.

...it's really none of your business ...it is however our business and I think your implying you that you 'know' what is going on is upsetting some of the ladies. Perhaps it's time to let this go quiet ?

Seriously...I don't understand why you'd be so offended by my putting this query out there.

Read Jessicas response again, you are the expert on comprehension.

 

[threepeat]

1) If you see an SP more than once every three months or so she will bother to remember your name.
2) If you see an SP about once a month she will probably remember what you like and don't like in your session.
3) If you see an SP every week or two you would be considered a "regular," which I suppose is the same as a "high value" client.

However, being a regular doesn't necessarily mean you get better service, just that she will be comfortable around you, which can be both a positive and a negative.

I have also found it to be a somewhat useless exercise to read too much into which girl is giving what service to whom. Girls moods change all the time depending on what their day was like. I've had some very open-minded sessions with girls sometimes, only to repeat and not have it on the menu.

 

[Man Mountain]

my 2 cents -- probably worth less than that

Hi huggzy,

I just wanted to say that I believe I did understand the point you were originally trying to make. But if you read between the lines of many of the responses that have been given to you, you will see that the answers are there. It's too bad that it all got so heated. Here's what it comes down to. It's a lose-lose scenario for any SP to admit that she "favours" any client over another. She wouldn't want any client, or potential client, to read such an admission and feel that he was treated any less favourably than another simply for not being able to repeat as often as someone with more means or opportunity than him. But we're also all aware that YMMV in any given session and certainly with repeat visits over time. And I don't necessarily mean "extra" services. Something as simple for example, as you quite rightfully pointed out, as not really watching the clock. You book a certain amount of time and she won't even let you leave when your time is up, even when you're the one telling her that you don't want to overstay your welcome. Or when you call to book a session, she'll re-arrange her schedule to make time for you.

However, again, the problem is that if any of the fine ladies posting on the forums were to admit to such a thing, it might create expectations of favourable treatment from some of the readers that are less understanding that it's one of those things that just happens sometimes between an SP and her client and it's not something that can be forced. You might not be an ass and I hope that I'm not an ass -- but we all know there are definitely asses that lurk and post on these boards who do try to push the boundaries of ladies' comfort zones. They have to walk a fine line and not let those types believe that they might be more generous with some clients that they "favour" than others.

And Jessica, you sound like a doll! But do please be careful to not give the impression that you might let yourself be taken advantage of by potential time wasters.

 

[huggzy]

Read Jessicas response again, you are the expert on comprehension.

With all due respect to Jessica's post, I'm assuming that most everything on this board, including the reviews, upsets the ladies.

But I haven't been asking for anyone to disclose what it was that a lady does as "over and beyond" (as I, myself, am not a fan of posting reviews either). I just simply asked how often, or how much time, or how much fee is it that a client needs to spend on a gal before they start thinking of those extra special gestures.

 

[huggzy]

Hi huggzy,

I just wanted to say that I believe I did understand the point you were originally trying to make. But if you read between the lines of many of the responses that have been given to you, you will see that the answers are there. It's too bad that it all got so heated. Here's what it comes down to. It's a lose-lose scenario for any SP to admit that she "favours" any client over another. She wouldn't want any client, or potential client, to read such an admission and feel that he was treated any less favourably than another simply for not being able to repeat as often as someone with more means or opportunity than him. But we're also all aware that YMMV in any given session and certainly with repeat visits over time. And I don't necessarily mean "extra" services. Something as simple for example, as you quite rightfully pointed out, as not really watching the clock. You book a certain amount of time and she won't even let you leave when your time is up, even when you're the one telling her that you don't want to overstay your welcome. Or when you call to book a session, she'll re-arrange her schedule to make time for you.

However, again, the problem is that if any of the fine ladies posting on the forums were to admit to such a thing, it might create expectations of favourable treatment from some of the readers that are less understanding that it's one of those things that just happens sometimes between an SP and her client and it's not something that can be forced. You might not be an ass and I hope that I'm not an ass -- but we all know there are definitely asses that lurk and post on these boards who do try to push the boundaries of ladies' comfort zones. They have to walk a fine line and not let those types believe that they might be more generous with some clients that they "favour" than others.

And Jessica, you sound like a doll! But do please be careful to not give the impression that you might let yourself be taken advantage of by potential time wasters.

I did understand that this is what was being communicated. That isn't necessarily a good reason to stomp out the questioner from asking the question, and I don't think a mature client would or should be offended if they learned of this revelation.

And again - I wasn't asking for intimate details about what occurs between an SP and client either. I really don't understand all the fuss about the fact that the question was asked. A person doesn't have to give an answer if they don't want to, but why slam a guy for asking when there could be a strong-willed lady or two who might be happy to answer the question?

 

[HB40]

With all due respect to Jessica's post, I'm assuming that most everything on this board, including the reviews, upset the ladies.

But I haven't been asking for anyone to disclose what it was that a lady does as "over and beyond" (as I, myself, am not a fan of posting reviews either). I just simply asked how often, or how much, or how often is it that a client sees a gal before they start thinking of those extra special gestures.

I was wrong, you aren't an expert on comprehension. I think you say too much and talk yourself into situations where you can't even discuss things rationally and just knee jerk refuse to listen to anything anyone has to say. Good grief dude, it's 5 pages of everyone disagreeing with you and still you defend your motives. Give it a rest, for real, it's not even something worth discussing with you anymore.

 

[huggzy]

1) If you see an SP more than once every three months or so she will bother to remember your name.
2) If you see an SP about once a month she will probably remember what you like and don't like in your session.
3) If you see an SP every week or two you would be considered a "regular," which I suppose is the same as a "high value" client.

However, being a regular doesn't necessarily mean you get better service, just that she will be comfortable around you, which can be both a positive and a negative.

I have also found it to be a somewhat useless exercise to read too much into which girl is giving what service to whom. Girls moods change all the time depending on what their day was like. I've had some very open-minded sessions with girls sometimes, only to repeat and not have it on the menu.

This is the type of answer I was hoping to hear. However, if the ladies are getting 50% of their clients coming in every week or two as well and this is typical of most clients for an SP, then your going every two weeks to see her for the same length of time as well likely wouldn't motivate a lady to treat you any differently than every other client.

So I guess I was hoping to get an idea of what would differentiate clients from getting typical treatment versus special treatment.

 

[huggzy]

I was wrong, you aren't an expert on comprehension. I think you say too much and talk yourself into situations where you can't even discuss things rationally and just knee jerk refuse to listen to anything anyone has to say. Good grief dude, it's 5 pages of everyone disagreeing with you and still you defend your motives. Give it a rest, for real, it's not even something worth discussing with you anymore.

Dude, you're just plain wrong, period.

You confirmed yourself that you know it happens, and you stated that you think that you don't believe the ladies will truthfully answer despite that it does happen - because its child-like douchebags such as you that would get offended if you didn't think you were getting the same treatment as their high-roller clients.

 

[HB40]

Dude, you're just plain wrong, period.

You confirmed yourself that you know it happens, and you stated that you think that you don't believe the ladies will truthfully answer despite that it does happen - because its child-like douchebags such as you that would get offended if you didn't think you were getting the same treatment as their high-roller clients.

The girls I see are respectful of discretion and don't discuss the details of their clients or sessions. If they did I would not see them anymore because it is inappropriate. I am not naive to think they don't do special things for other clients, I just don't want to know. I am happy with the service I get and that is all I need.

 

[huggzy]

The girls I see are respectful of discretion and don't discuss the details of their clients or sessions. If they did I would not see them anymore because it is inappropriate. I am not naive to think they don't do special things for other clients, I just don't want to know. I am happy with the service I get and that is all I need.

And where in any of the posts did I imply that details of an SP's clients or sessions (inside or out) should be disclosed, or suggest that a client's expectations should be elevated?

If you don't want to know anything about what an SP does for her clients then why do you even read this board or click on this thread?

 

[Horse99]

I am the high value client

...I bring my own beer, shampoo and skin products...
...I'm nice and clean
...I take about 5 min to come
...always have the donation in nice easily countable cash
...and I'm never late.