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What is your vision of "success"

MissingOne

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Perhaps if I was a bimbo, My presence would be much more tolerable to this forum. Does bimbofication count as a vision of success?
I would be very disappointed if you were revealed to be a bimbo.

I'm puzzled though. I don't notice an unusual degree of nastiness directed at you in the open forum. Perhaps most of the nastiness comes via other means of communication?

Anyway, since you are a self-described sometime-bitch, I feel at liberty to say: "Carry on, bitch!".
 

licks2nite

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Where there is a will there is a way.
Always been that way.
"Millennials" can't afford to move out of the basement because of rising property values? Then find another location that suits you and your budget better. Lifestyle may need to be adjusted.
Current employment doesn't meet your economic needs? Then try another path or career- maybe even a trade. Lots of young guys I know with young families are busting their humps on jobsites to get ahead so they can buy a SFDH in the outer valley. Of course they'd rather live closer to the city and not commute, but that's not realistic for them. They don't bitch and moan and feel entitled. They step up.
Always been that way.
The 34% of Millennials this year and 26% in 2005 living with parents are U.S. national statistics. I'd presume the figures for Canada can't be much different. Perhaps you can suggest "another location" that would suit Millennials and their budget better without commuting ungodly distances to work. There's no standard of living in wasting hours of your own time each day commuting in traffic.
 

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The 34% of Millennials this year and 26% in 2005 living with parents are U.S. national statistics. I'd presume the figures for Canada can't be much different. Perhaps you can suggest "another location" that would suit Millennials and their budget better without commuting ungodly distances to work. There's no standard of living in wasting hours of your own time each day commuting in traffic.
To travel an hour to hour and a half to work I wouldn't consider ungodly.....if a young person could save 500-750 thousand to afford a house in another part of the lower mainland. Would that not put them into a standard of living, that they could at least almost afford?
I suppose one would have to consider another vehicle per family, as well as extra insurance, maintenance etc.....but it would put them in the housing market.
Not being a smart ass here, as I live two weeks from everything, and work mostly from home, except when fighting fires....but the housing market in Vancouver has hit the stratosphere, and although it has levelled off, is still unaffordable for most first time buyers.
Besides...Abbotsford or Chilliwack isn't a horrible place to live or raise a family.
 

westwoody

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Bashing millenials for living at home is all the rage.
In the 60s in Vancouver lots of Chinese and Sikh families were in multi generational homes.
That allowed both parents to work since grandparents were able to care for younglings. It surely reduced the cost of housing a lot.
A neighbour here is a multi generation home, two professionals living with the wife's mother. The grandmother takes the child to school and takes care of him while the parents work.
It works well for them and seems like a good idea.

The idea that everyone "needs" a single family detached home is BS. It makes money for the banks, keeps people locked into lifetime mortgages, and makes money for builders and developers.
 

PierreCoeur

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Success can be so many things to different people. Personally success is waking up everyday and going to a job that I enjoy doing and knowing what I did that day brings happiness to others. Getting up in front of two or three hundred people everyweek and asking them if they are enjoying themselves. Hearing applause and people coming up to me afterwards and thanking me for introducing them to something new or for the smiles they shared. Success is life.
 

westwoody

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Unbridled capitaism is bad too, the US is rapidly becoming a feudal oligarchy.
Lots of people work very hard and get nowhere. You can only have so many CEO's.
 

ddcanz

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Perhaps you can suggest "another location" that would suit Millennials and their budget better without commuting ungodly distances to work. There's no standard of living in wasting hours of your own time each day commuting in traffic.
I suggest that each looks at their own scenario and determines the best course of action.
I already suggested alternate career path and location. What that entails is up to the particular individual(s).
My point is there are always other options.
My guidance counsellor in 6th grade made a very realistic comment when we kids were whining about something or another- "You always have a choice. Now, the choices may not be the greatest, but you still have them. Consider them for yourself and proceed accordingly."
$1.5M home in the city vs. a $600K home in the Outer Valley with a long commute? I don't know, and not up to me know what works best for someone else.
 

licks2nite

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To travel an hour to hour and a half to work I wouldn't consider ungodly.....if a young person could save 500-750 thousand to afford a house in another part of the lower mainland. Would that not put them into a standard of living, that they could at least almost afford?
I suppose one would have to consider another vehicle per family, as well as extra insurance, maintenance etc.....but it would put them in the housing market.
Not being a smart ass here, as I live two weeks from everything, and work mostly from home, except when fighting fires....but the housing market in Vancouver has hit the stratosphere, and although it has levelled off, is still unaffordable for most first time buyers.
Besides...Abbotsford or Chilliwack isn't a horrible place to live or raise a family.
Admittedly, many agree with you. If you've ever happened to monitor the evening traffic on any workday on Trans-Canada Highway #1 approaching the Port Mann Bridge Fraser River crossing since the early 1970s you'd get a idea of how many do. Public transit tickets are 90 minutes duration, in line with your way of thinking too. A skill set that folks around here develop, in a career of handling a motor vehicle so many hours a week so many years, likely far exceeds any skill set acquired on the job that they're going to and from.

However, I'd like to say that I think that the money spent, on the new Port Mann Fraser River crossing and freeway upgrade, could have been better used as tax breaks for corporations with their research, development and export manufacturing capabilities to settle in the Fraser Valley to offer Valley residents short commute choices to work. Exporting products would be financial income to aid national balance of payments rather than financial deficit of retailing imports. Basically the only jobs that Valley residents can find at the end of a long trek today. Valley residents would be freed with quality time to spend with their families assured of a vital role in the health of the Canadian economy rather than sitting in traffic. Financial pressures would be reduced on Valley residents with shorter commute times and wouldn't have to pressure employers for higher wages. Employers could keep costs down to keep exports competitive and priced fairly for consumers. Valley residents would develop any number of new skill sets in addition to driving. Free enterprise and free market Capitalism without any cronyism.
 

FreeG

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Where there is a will there is a way.
Always been that way.
"Millennials" can't afford to move out of the basement because of rising property values? Then find another location that suits you and your budget better. Lifestyle may need to be adjusted.
Current employment doesn't meet your economic needs? Then try another path or career- maybe even a trade. Lots of young guys I know with young families are busting their humps on jobsites to get ahead so they can buy a SFDH in the outer valley. Of course they'd rather live closer to the city and not commute, but that's not realistic for them. They don't bitch and moan and feel entitled. They step up.
Always been that way.
Sat in on a good commentary of millenials - the historic pull of home ownership is generally LESS than with previous generations so I caution everyone to look deeply on *who* is actually lamenting the lack of home ownership among younger adults: it may not necessarily be those adults, who are tending to focus on experience, different jobs, different areas, etc.

Its not necessarily laziness, entitlement, etc. Its (sometimes) a simple desire to "hey, let's hike north of Whistler this weekend" instead of saving another $200 towards a down-payment, or "hey I'm going to volunteer at a co-op for a few months for a cause I'm passionate about" instead of putting in the time at a job with a pension/RRSP. The higher home costs may be part of the driver for these decisions but the research I was shown points to other factors being more dominant.

This generation is going to dominate politics/job markets/etc over the next few years - we older folks will have to be the ones to adapt if we want to attract talent (in the job market, that is).
 

undecided

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(Financial)Success is not having to worry about the cost. Be it a nice dinner or a car or an article of clothing.
 

sevenofnine

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I just came back from holidays,

totally relaxing and enjoyable.
it was rather a high end vacation,
I mean hotels were expensive etc etc,
most people thought we were crazy for spending that much for a hotel.

we thought we should have up graded

so yeah, just being able to blow some money and not worry about it,
and loving the people your with.


seriously you can be tenting in the middle of no where for free,
and love the people your with and what your doing,

and you can be in a high end resort and hate the people your with,

the people your with, make all the difference in the world.
money is simply an extra
 

Walk Softly

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Success in life, is being unconditionally happy in ones own skin.

Think about that for a sec.




.......................QM'r

Amen brother!

I don't ever expect to be rich but I don't allow myself to stress too much over bills and make time every year to take a trip somewhere warmer in the winter.
More than likely, the only way I'll ever see the end of my mortgage is by down-sizing but I can always move somewhere where my money will go farther...like Mexico!

iSalud! WS.
 
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