what is Romantic? is romance dead?

hornygandalf

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Oh when you put it that way you are so right! There is a time and place for everything.
And had dinner with the young lady (MILF actually... she has kids the same age as my younger one) last night where she was bemoaning that every male in the office of her new job wants to get in her pants... and how she has been fighting off lawyers and doctors and politicians in the past... no surprise. She just oozes sexuality, and she knows it (and uses it to her advantage).
 

Dickson

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She'd love you a lot less if you didn't pay her.
Yes that is so true. However does she enjoy the moment with you? Or is she counting the moments when she can get out if there. Even if you pay her does she make you feel like she wants to be there?

What I find fascinating is I can spend big dollars on moon lit dinners, sunset adventures, dream wedding experiences, James Bond situations. Complete with sights, sounds, smells. And not get the emotional response. Even worst I find out after that the suite, travel, 6 couse meals complete with private waiter, wine, string quartet means less that a guy with a cheese plate and a bottle of windshield washer. I spring for a weekend away he is there for 30 minutes or an hour. She is thrilled by him and her heart is a flutter. Me, how soon can she get back on the flight home or she locks her self in the bathroom until I fall asleep. Or even worse she tells me that I am doing it for me not for her.

So I guess that is the reason I posed the question on what is romance? I clearly have no idea. Yea I pay to play. But that does not mean we both can not enjoy the experience. I just want to enjoy it and I want the SP to enjoy it. Is that so wrong? But we established that SPs are not interest in Romantic experiences with clients.

You use the term love! Now don't get me started on that.
 

Dickson

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And had dinner with the young lady (MILF actually... she has kids the same age as my younger one) last night where she was bemoaning that every male in the office of her new job wants to get in her pants... and how she has been fighting off lawyers and doctors and politicians in the past... no surprise. She just oozes sexuality, and she knows it (and uses it to her advantage).
So.......what happened? She told you this for a reason? I have never had a women share that with me. What advice did you give her?
 

hornygandalf

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Yes that is so true. However does she enjoy the moment with you? Or is she counting the moments when she can get out if there. Even if you pay her does she make you feel like she wants to be there?

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So I guess that is the reason I posed the question on what is romance? I clearly have no idea. Yea I pay to play. But that does not mean we both can not enjoy the experience. I just want to enjoy it and I want the SP to enjoy it. Is that so wrong? But we established that SPs are not interest in Romantic experiences with clients.

You use the term love! Now don't get me started on that.
It really depends on the lady and the chemistry you have. It isn't that simple. And many marriages can also have an aspect of 'pay-to-play' as well.

You have chemistry with Ms. Catherine James, and so I would expect that she is fully engaged and appreciates the romance of your time together. And so the comment that "SPs are not interested in Romantic experiences with clients" is not always true. You have found it... though maybe you are questioning whether it is real for her or it is just an economic transaction and she is a very good actress. Don't doubt it. Just believe in the experience you have with her and be fully present. It is so much better that way.
 

hornygandalf

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So.......what happened? She told you this for a reason? I have never had a women share that with me. What advice did you give her?
There was that chemistry... or energetic connection, from the very first day she was in my class. It happened to also be the day of the very big fracas with my SO, which had left evidence of the physical violence. And this young lady was very direct with me after class and asked what had happened to me. Since then she has taken other classes with me and met me on many occasions in office hours (and outside of office hours). She works full-time and travels frequently, so I'm also having to make special provisions with her. I'm the one she comes to whenever there is a major crisis in her life and so the first part of my meeting with her was working through the details of her transition (and move) into her new position, and how that affects her kids and separated husband. And so some of what we were talking about was around her relationship with her estranged husband and how they could get back together in the context of this move across the country. This she also saw as being a possible way to deal with the approaches from other men. That there would be a degree of protection in having a husband back in her life.

She has always been totally open with me, to the extent of being sexually provocative in class (possibly)... in suggesting a business based around developing/enhancing kegel muscles in women (and explaining to the class why it is important). A very interesting lady... who I've probably broken all kinds of boundaries and norms with (and showed an incredible amount of trust in as a result).
 

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It really depends on the lady and the chemistry you have. It isn't that simple. And many marriages can also have an aspect of 'pay-to-play' as well.

You have chemistry with Ms. Catherine James, and so I would expect that she is fully engaged and appreciates the romance of your time together. And so the comment that "SPs are not interested in Romantic experiences with clients" is not always true. You have found it... though maybe you are questioning whether it is real for her or it is just an economic transaction and she is a very good actress. Don't doubt it. Just believe in the experience you have with her and be fully present. It is so much better that way.
I agree. I've heard many married women laugh as they admit that unless their spouse buys them a specific item or performs a specific task, he won't be getting any sex from them.

There are SP's with the mental and emotional ability to let themselves temporarily fall in love and have romantic feelings for their clients. They allow themselves to be open and vulnerable and experience emotional intimacy along with the physical intimacy. It's not an act, it's real at the time. Then after the session ends, even though you part and go your separate ways, there's still a thread of a connection that exists forever if you let it.

Most women I know would love to have someone as romantic as Dickson in their lives.

:)
 

Dickson

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There was that chemistry... or energetic connection, from the very first day she was in my class. It happened to also be the day of the very big fracas with my SO, which had left evidence of the physical violence. And this young lady was very direct with me after class and asked what had happened to me. Since then she has taken other classes with me and met me on many occasions in office hours (and outside of office hours). She works full-time and travels frequently, so I'm also having to make special provisions with her. I'm the one she comes to whenever there is a major crisis in her life and so the first part of my meeting with her was working through the details of her transition (and move) into her new position, and how that affects her kids and separated husband. And so some of what we were talking about was around her relationship with her estranged husband and how they could get back together in the context of this move across the country. This she also saw as being a possible way to deal with the approaches from other men. That there would be a degree of protection in having a husband back in her life.

She has always been totally open with me, to the extent of being sexually provocative in class (possibly)... in suggesting a business based around developing/enhancing kegel muscles in women (and explaining to the class why it is important). A very interesting lady... who I've probably broken all kinds of boundaries and norms with (and showed an incredible amount of trust in as a result).
Wow horny, sounds very complicated. But very interesting. Oh the situations we create. How do you keep it together?

I wish you much luck with that. My hat off to you.
 

Dickson

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I agree. I've heard many married women laugh as they admit that unless their spouse buys them a specific item or performs a specific task, he won't be getting any sex from them.

There are SP's with the mental and emotional ability to let themselves temporarily fall in love and have romantic feelings for their clients. They allow themselves to be open and vulnerable and experience emotional intimacy along with the physical intimacy. It's not an act, it's real at the time. Then after the session ends, even though you part and go your separate ways, there's still a thread of a connection that exists forever if you let it.

Most women I know would love to have someone as romantic as Dickson in their lives.

:)
Oh I am blushing. However my idea of romance is so distorted. I am glad you think I am romantic. Did you think our dinner those years ago was romantic? It was a real ride out there and back. But you know it was worth it to meet you my dear.

I think you describe Ms James because she is able to do just that. I really enjoy it because I can have my cake and eat it too. I can feel the romance then walk away. There was only one other lady like that Anna from Russia that was able to do the same thing. I loved how Anna looked at me. Even Kim who I saw years ago for nearly 15 years never had that connection.

So some to be said by your comments.
 

hornygandalf

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Sex can be bought, you can go out and spend money to do romantic things, dinner, helicopter rides, etc. But a connection cannot be bought at any price...
Indeed. However, buying sex and companionship doesn't automatically mean there isn't chemistry or a connection. It is possible to have both, though it is more of an ideal that is only occasionally met.
 

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Check your closet..:)



Want to know the cost of love?

You’ll need to budget $50,339.21

Who says love heals all wounds? What about the hit your wallet takes?

Ok, cynicism aside, a new survey shows that the cost of love increased by 11.4% (year-over-year) in 2015.

According to RateSupermarket’s 3rd annual Cost of Love study the $50k+ price tag for romance includes a year of dating, a year of engagement before the final wedding day. (I know this is a tad askew from my regular home owner and real estate topics, but I couldn’t resist. Let’s face it: after marriage doesn’t always come baby carriage, sometimes its a house.)

So, want to know the breakdown? RateSupermarket conducted a cost analysis on the top expenses faced by couples, from casual dating to wedding day:

One Year of Dates: $7,740.21

12 Fancy Dates: (nice dinners, theatre tickets): $2,335
36 Casual Dates: (12 takeout dinners, 12 coffee dates and a Netflix subscription): $489
12 Movie Dates: (movie tickets, concessions): $570.96
2 Weekend Getaways: (2 days away, 2 nights away, $100 credit card bill): $821.50
Beach Vacation: $2,254.67
Other Expenses: (Flowers: $126.98, Men’s Wardrobe: $1143.10): $1270.08

One-Year Engagement: $10,913.99

Another Year of Dates + 50% Wardrobe update: $4,913.99
Engagement Ring: $4,000
Engagement Party: $2,000

Tying The Knot: $31,685*

*Source: 2014 Weddingbells/Mariage Quebec Reader Survey

http://www.moneysense.ca/spend/cost-of-love
 
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LADY-VIA

romance to me means - knowing the little things that a person really enoys, and not all of them have to cost alot of money...

last summer I picked up a whole chicken from safeway with ...... another human.. and just a couple sides to go with it... We ripped it apart with our bare hands and watched the sun go down... it really depends on the gesture... I for one love watching the sunset..

I have been watching since I was very little and With the right company Im perfectly content sitting right down on the ground and eating with my bare hands just to get a glimpse of the perfect sunset... But this is me.... Every woman has that one thing !! Its usually not as complicated as one man would think it is... Find that one thing ..

romance isnt dead at all... people make it far too complicated... romance is every day...

its never the huge over the top things that people remember... its always the little things

and even if you are with someone who loves all the extra glitz and glam ...... there will always be that one simple thing that she remebers most :)


so basically in every day life we always strive for all the big things.. in romance you need to step back .. and really have a good think about the approach.. and always bring the most important little things that matter most
 

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For some reason after reading this thread, I want to draw a bath with lavender, light the candles and listen to Enya ;)
 
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LADY-VIA

For some reason after reading this thread, I want to draw a bath with lavender, light the candles and listen to Enya ;)
sounds great to me too bbb the candles and the enya.... minus the lavender though...... that would kill me ...
 
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