what is Romantic? is romance dead?

too timid

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Romance will never be dead. It is all around us and ranges from the smallest gesture to moving the the world. Maybe its paying attention when talking with your muse and surprising them with a gift that reflects that. Maybe its trying to make something for them when they inspire you. Maybe its a gift that you got them because you were thinking of them while you were millions of miles away. It doesn't matter what it is but really what your intentions are. While i think we all want to be acknowledged and noticed by the object of our affections . i don't think romance is a thing you do or trade for something in return. i think its a reflection of your thoughts and feelings of that person. If your doing this to get that, its not romance, if its a gesture you are willing to make even if it goes unanswered that is romance. If your holding that person in your mind/soul and they inspire you DO IT , SP or civilian we are all people, who cares . Life's way too short
 

hornygandalf

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I think there are a number of things going on here and the situation is a little more nuanced than presented.
We need to remember that this is a purchase of a fantasy experience. For Dickson, he creates an amazing, elaborate fantasy that could be considered romantic. But, it is his fantasy, not the fantasy of the SP who is a part of it, although they may very much enjoy the experience. So yes, they are right that it is for his benefit rather than theirs.

An at the budget end where the ladies only see a portion of the fee, the $20 is of considerable value and preferred over the gifts, although small, thoughtful gifts are very much appreciated as well (particularly if it doesn't mean the loss of the tip).

And then there are the independent ladies in more of the mid-range. For them, I believe that a thoughtful gesture through the gift of flowers or fruit or something similar has more value than adding a $20 tip onto the bill. These ladies are professionals and are doing something they very much enjoy or love (and it might be secondary to their main occupation). A thoughtful gesture is more meaningful than a little extra money. How many of you tip your accountant or lawyer or therapist?

Romance isn't dead, and nor do those small romantic gestures we make to the ladies we see go unappreciated. They just need to be thoughtful and appropriate.
 

Dickson

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Romance will never be dead. It is all around us and ranges from the smallest gesture to moving the the world. Maybe its paying attention when talking with your muse and surprising them with a gift that reflects that. Maybe its trying to make something for them when they inspire you. Maybe its a gift that you got them because you were thinking of them while you were millions of miles away. It doesn't matter what it is but really what your intentions are. While i think we all want to be acknowledged and noticed by the object of our affections . i don't think romance is a thing you do or trade for something in return. i think its a reflection of your thoughts and feelings of that person. If your doing this to get that, its not romance, if its a gesture you are willing to make even if it goes unanswered that is romance. If your holding that person in your mind/soul and they inspire you DO IT , SP or civilian we are all people, who cares . Life's way too short
Wow Timid you really struck a cord with me on this post. I appreciate your comment about what are my intentions?

For me it is to give her an experiment that gets an emotional reaction. Like Rio at Christmas time and having the choir show up and sing for in the restaurant. Should have seen her face when the members of the choir stood up and sang. Those tears were priceless. Or Erica at the Ballet, or Annika at the theatre to see the Lion King, or Jenna at the Phantom. Looking at their face and seeing them smile even for that moment. My real intention was to take them away and see them so happy. So they might say it was always for me. I guess it is. But Timid I am so glad you asked what was the intention. It is about romance. Not romance for life but for the moment.

My new favorite SP I love watching sun come up on her face as we lay in bed in NYC. Or to stand behind her with my arms around her watching the sun go down in Redondo Beach.

So even if it is not romantic to them it is for me and why should I not enjoy it. Besides it is all I got before I go back to my real world and face my nightmares. Getting lost in a daydream with my favorite SP is now my favorite thing to do.

Thanks Timid!
 

sybian

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What i'm hearing is that you may be doing it for yourself on some level....But a few of those ladies can't help but get wrapped up in the experience themselves.
I'm sure for them, there may be a lasting fond memory as well...I know when i'll take a young lady horseback riding, looking for lost cattle, and build a fire for lunch, and bring something special to eat...they will recall that exact moment with clarity ,years later.
We are all allowed to daydream..And I'm certain the young ladies you are with, must feel special, and feel the romance in some way....At least some of them.

I take my hat off to you Dickson...It isn't the money you spend ...It's the respectful thought that I admire.
 

Dickson

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I think there are a number of things going on here and the situation is a little more nuanced than presented.
We need to remember that this is a purchase of a fantasy experience. For Dickson, he creates an amazing, elaborate fantasy that could be considered romantic. But, it is his fantasy, not the fantasy of the SP who is a part of it, although they may very much enjoy the experience. So yes, they are right that it is for his benefit rather than theirs.

An at the budget end where the ladies only see a portion of the fee, the $20 is of considerable value and preferred over the gifts, although small, thoughtful gifts are very much appreciated as well (particularly if it doesn't mean the loss of the tip).

And then there are the independent ladies in more of the mid-range. For them, I believe that a thoughtful gesture through the gift of flowers or fruit or something similar has more value than adding a $20 tip onto the bill. These ladies are professionals and are doing something they very much enjoy or love (and it might be secondary to their main occupation). A thoughtful gesture is more meaningful than a little extra money. How many of you tip your accountant or lawyer or therapist?

Romance isn't dead, and nor do those small romantic gestures we make to the ladies we see go unappreciated. They just need to be thoughtful and appropriate.
Good points horny, ok if we are a first name bases?

Yes you are right it is no so black and white and not all SPs are the same. For me you nailed it. I need to find the SPs who can appreciate my world and can join me in my fantasies. So one who appreciates them and want be romantic. I always ask what do they find romantic and most have no idea what I am talking about they just want bend over and ask are you done yet. Give me money and I am in my way. There are guys for that. For me Ai guess I want more. All the things unoh says is not out there for paying customers.

In all my years I have only found one SP that meets that bill. Others have been close but only one has been consistent. So I can consider my self lucky. Are there others maybe will I find them maybe not. Who cares. I got memories.

For the bulk of the guys there is tons of SPs out there to meet every guys needs and wants.

Explore my friends find the SPs that do it for you and do it for them. It is about the pleasure.all about the pleasure you give and receive.
 

Dickson

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What i'm hearing is that you may be doing it for yourself on some level....But a few of those ladies can't help but get wrapped up in the experience themselves.
I'm sure for them, there may be a lasting fond memory as well...I know when i'll take a young lady horseback riding, looking for lost cattle, and build a fire for lunch, and bring something special to eat...they will recall that exact moment with clarity ,years later.
We are all allowed to daydream..And I'm certain the young ladies you are with, must feel special, and feel the romance in some way....At least some of them.

I take my hat off to you Dickson...It isn't the money you spend ...It's the respectful thought that I admire.
Thanks sybian, that means alot coming from a man's man. Someone who knows how to treat a lady. I hope travel in your shadow amigo. Happy trails.
 

hornygandalf

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Dickson, I think what you do for the ladies is amazing and I fully understand the joy you get in the moment from the joy they experience.
Yes, it is also about what you get from the moment of magic, and it needs to be with the right lady for them to be swept into the fantasy as well and to fully enjoy it, but it is about you as much as it is about their pleasure. Nothing wrong with that. And it also doesn't mean that it isn't romantic. It isn't just about the money you spend on it, but the thought that goes into creating the fantasy and magical experience. That is where the romance comes in, and I think the point that has been made is that can happen with very little expenditure as well as lavish expenditure. Keep doing what you are doing. I wish I was in a position to do the same, but for the moment, a single rose or similar can provide some of that effect.

And sure... you can just call me 'horny' :)
 

Fullhouse

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Of course you can't find romance. The only thing you care about is your money. It's all you talk about.
You're wrong, westwoody ---- that's not all he talks about.........

He also talks about his humongous cock, and how lucky all of us guys are for not being burdened with such a huge cock.......... now that's romantic, isn't it ????

And who wouldn't agree that one of the most romantic images we could ever visualize in the theater of our mind is some rich dude fucking Cami completely naked in front of an uncovered window on the 27th. floor, with an unobstructed view for the whole world to see.... Romance at it's finest.....

I can already see Hallmark designing a new romantic card depicting that activity, and on the back could be a little picture of a gallon of windshield washer with the caption:
"If all else fails, present her with one of these."

On a serious note, Dickson, I have always enjoyed your posts about your escapades with the ladies, but shake my head at the extravagant 'gifts' you always seem to find necessary to shower upon the ladies to spend the night with you, sucking and fucking to your hearts content. (I remember reading where you spent 10.000 Euro, or $14.000 Canadian, to get laid.)

Financial, you are obviously very successful at whatever you do, to be able to afford all the trips, helicopter rides, horse drawn carriages, jewelry, dresses, shoes, fancy dinners with hired musicians, opera, theatre, limos -- and the list goes on and on....(a list that you continuously remind us of).
If you ever have a repeat with one of those ladies, what do you do for an encore??......... my mind boggles.

Well, Dickson, we obviously are as opposite as can be... You have a huge bank account, --- I'm still trying to open one, but they want a minimum of $5.00 deposit.
Occasionally, I bring home a box of Chicken McNuggets to eat and then lick my fingers, you bring home a whole chick to eat and lick, -- you have a huge penis, me, not so much. My doctor left his glasses at home the day of my circumcision - ouch..

Dickson, I hope you enjoy your future pooning, and please let us know how it worked out when you only brought windshield washer, a smile and your super XXXL condoms.
 

Dickson

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You're wrong, westwoody ---- that's not all he talks about.........

He also talks about his humongous cock, and how lucky all of us guys are for not being burdened with such a huge cock.......... now that's romantic, isn't it ????

And who wouldn't agree that one of the most romantic images we could ever visualize in the theater of our mind is some rich dude fucking Cami completely naked in front of an uncovered window on the 27th. floor, with an unobstructed view for the whole world to see.... Romance at it's finest.....

I can already see Hallmark designing a new romantic card depicting that activity, and on the back could be a little picture of a gallon of windshield washer with the caption:
"If all else fails, present her with one of these."

On a serious note, Dickson, I have always enjoyed your posts about your escapades with the ladies, but shake my head at the extravagant 'gifts' you always seem to find necessary to shower upon the ladies to spend the night with you, sucking and fucking to your hearts content. (I remember reading where you spent 10.000 Euro, or $14.000 Canadian, to get laid.)

Financial, you are obviously very successful at whatever you do, to be able to afford all the trips, helicopter rides, horse drawn carriages, jewelry, dresses, shoes, fancy dinners with hired musicians, opera, theatre, limos -- and the list goes on and on....(a list that you continuously remind us of).
If you ever have a repeat with one of those ladies, what do you do for an encore??......... my mind boggles.

Well, Dickson, we obviously are as opposite as can be... You have a huge bank account, --- I'm still trying to open one, but they want a minimum of $5.00 deposit.
Occasionally, I bring home a box of Chicken McNuggets to eat and then lick my fingers, you bring home a whole chick to eat and lick, -- you have a huge penis, me, not so much. My doctor left his glasses at home the day of my circumcision - ouch..

Dickson, I hope you enjoy your future pooning, and please let us know how it worked out when you only brought windshield washer, a smile and your super XXXL condoms.
Och full house...........

So I guess I am off your Christmas card list. Next time I am in Vancouver happy to stop by and help you with setting up that bank account. By the way my dick is not that big. As one SP recently told me I don't have a big dick. I am A big Dick!

So thanks for stating the obvious. It means a lot.
 

Dickson

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Dickson, I think what you do for the ladies is amazing and I fully understand the joy you get in the moment from the joy they experience.
Yes, it is also about what you get from the moment of magic, and it needs to be with the right lady for them to be swept into the fantasy as well and to fully enjoy it, but it is about you as much as it is about their pleasure. Nothing wrong with that. And it also doesn't mean that it isn't romantic. It isn't just about the money you spend on it, but the thought that goes into creating the fantasy and magical experience. That is where the romance comes in, and I think the point that has been made is that can happen with very little expenditure as well as lavish expenditure. Keep doing what you are doing. I wish I was in a position to do the same, but for the moment, a single rose or similar can provide some of that effect.

And sure... you can just call me 'horny' :)
Well Horny my man I think I own you a drink. We think alike. I could learn alot from your wisdom. Maybe we do a double date. You pick out your favorite SP and I bring my favorite date and do dinner you bring the wisdom and I bring the cash. Horny you own a suit? What do you like to eat?

I figure you could save me a lot in fantasy romances.

Full house read that and weep. But I am paying for that bank account.That is $5.00 Canadian right.
 

uncleg

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What i'm hearing is that you may be doing it for yourself on some level....But a few of those ladies can't help but get wrapped up in the experience themselves.
I'm sure for them, there may be a lasting fond memory as well...I know when i'll take a young lady horseback riding, looking for lost cattle, and build a fire for lunch, and bring something special to eat...they will recall that exact moment with clarity ,years later.
We are all allowed to daydream..And I'm certain the young ladies you are with, must feel special, and feel the romance in some way....At least some of them.

I take my hat off to you Dickson...It isn't the money you spend ...It's the respectful thought that I admire.

And how much did you pay her to be there.....? Her involvement in your day and experience was of her own free will, she was there because she wanted to be and I'm sure you made it special in your own way. Can our friend Dickson on the other hand say the same thing ? While the ladies are there of their own free will, it is after all a financial arrangement and while various scenarios we hear about are deemed romantic by Dickson, are they for his partners ? For the money he spends, I'd suggest there are not too many of his lady friends that would say anything negative about his efforts to be romantic.

I have to wonder, what the reaction would be to Dickson if he just showed up for an hour or two session like the majority of the members of the Board, and then sprung his surprise or fantasy on the SP is question ? I get the feeling that the ladies that have come to know Dickson expect the extravagant when he calls, the romantic is the furthest thing from their minds. Call a new girl sometime and just show up with a bottle of wine and a couple roses......see what happens ? Don't tell them you're Dickson when you book.

As to the rest of what sybian says....I agree, it is the thought that counts.
 

Fullhouse

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Och full house...........

So I guess I am off your Christmas card list. Next time I am in Vancouver happy to stop by and help you with setting up that bank account. By the way my dick is not that big. As one SP recently told me I don't have a big dick. I am A big Dick! .
Well, Dickson, setting up an account is not that big a deal to me, unless you promise to keep it topped up to allow me to enjoy the company of some beautiful ladies a few times a month, and of course a few gallons of mouthwash as gifts, which I think would be more appreciated than windshield wash, in which case I am ready to meet you, but only on days of the week that end with a 'Y', like Monday.

Also, I am absolutely positive that I didn't get the idea of you being well endowed from personal observation, ------- I've read it in a number of your posts.

Keep enjoying your marvelous lifestyle, Dickson ----- and yes, I do envy it..
 

Dickson

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And how much did you pay her to be there.....? Her involvement in your day and experience was of her own free will, she was there because she wanted to be and I'm sure you made it special in your own way. Can our friend Dickson on the other hand say the same thing ? While the ladies are there of their own free will, it is after all a financial arrangement and while various scenarios we hear about are deemed romantic by Dickson, are they for his partners ? For the money he spends, I'd suggest there are not too many of his lady friends that would say anything negative about his efforts to be romantic.

I have to wonder, what the reaction would be to Dickson if he just showed up for an hour or two session like the majority of the members of the Board, and then sprung his surprise or fantasy on the SP is question ? I get the feeling that the ladies that have come to know Dickson expect the extravagant when he calls, the romantic is the furthest thing from their minds. Call a new girl sometime and just show up with a bottle of wine and a couple roses......see what happens ? Don't tell them you're Dickson when you book.

As to the rest of what sybian says....I agree, it is the thought that counts.
Good suggestion.I like that idea.
 

sybian

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That will never work....Dickson has his own theme song that follows him around...You know Chicka- chicka -Wow- wow.....Seventies Porn music.
Even he can't figure out where it comes from,...the girls know who he is from a block away ..just from hearing that shit.
It ain't easy being Dickson...He's just gotta stop hanging those Mexican Dingy Balls around the headliner of his rental cars...That would be a start at ridding himself of being identified.
 

Dickson

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That will never work....Dickson has his own theme song that follows him around...You know Chicka- chicka -Wow- wow.....Seventies Porn music.
Even he can't figure out where it comes from,...the girls know who he is from a block away ..just from hearing that shit.
It ain't easy being Dickson...He's just gotta stop hanging those Mexican Dingy Balls around the headliner of his rental cars...That would be a start at ridding himself of being identified.
Theme song is wild girls by Burno Mars.

You are right it an't easy being Dickson. I thought about hiring one of you guys to play me and watching how the SPs respond. It might be fun.
 

sybian

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Sorry Dickson.... but I can't work for anyone. I'm a pain in the ass that way.
Although a few of the lovley young ladies, have managed to seduce me around here.
I'm gonna go clean out The Kamloops Canadian Tire ,of all their windshield washer fluid.
 

UhOh

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Maybe the word isn't clearly defined. Its quite possible to have a good time with someone without an instant of romance happening, by my definition.
Dickson has done everything mentioned here and more yet has been left feeling it was to no avail. Women see you as either a romantic interest or a cash cow, unless you're in denial its generally not difficult to figure what side you're on.

Dickson I enjoy your stories and questions, I hope you find what you're looking for before the money runs out.
 

hornygandalf

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Well Horny my man I think I own you a drink. We think alike. I could learn alot from your wisdom. Maybe we do a double date. You pick out your favorite SP and I bring my favorite date and do dinner you bring the wisdom and I bring the cash. Horny you own a suit? What do you like to eat?

I figure you could save me a lot in fantasy romances.
Thank you for the very kind offer, Dickson. I don't know. Maybe. I also have a SO and have to remain very discrete. Difficult to say I have a favourite SP as I haven't seen anyone twice and it is on an occasionally basis. In part because I'm underpaid precarious academic labour. However, not out of the question. I certainly do own a suit. More than one. Tailored, not off-the rack. They just rarely get worn. Might be easier meeting in another country. I'm planning on being in Vienna at the beginning of July and then Hong Kong immediately after.

But honestly, a lot of what I share has come from all of the failures I've had. I don't see myself as a success or a role model in this area at all. I'm sure I could learn far more from you. But, I do appreciate your kind words.
 

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kinda agree with fullhouse. why bother with all the showering gifts?
i had sex with many girls for the first time and by the end of the first hour...
i am told that i was romantic ....
 
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