What if the gang violence continued into the 2010 olympics?

[dipitydoo]

yup, gang violence will carry over to 2010 and beyond. I don't see this violence disappearing anytime soon!

As long as there's money to be made, there will be organized crime and young hoodlums trying to fit into the equation and get a piece of the pie.

I think Vancouver's a shithole nowadays. For crying out loud, it's almost 20 killings in the first 2 months of the year!

 

[Fillup]

The one thing that always makes me wonder is the statement I hear so often about how it's just marijuana and everyone has a toke now and then. People fail to realise that every time they buy weed they are one step away from this violence.

It's no longer a cottage industry it was in the 70s.

I saw on CBC Tv last night a story about a gun shop in Poco that is owned by a serious member of the UN gang. I didn't get much of it as I tuned in late and there was a lot going on around me. No other TV or radio station seems to be mentioning it. Does anyone know about it?

BTW if you're waiting for the RCMP to solve this problem you're an idiot. Ever had reason to call the RCMP for help? If they come the same day you are getting exceptional service.

 

[Shakerod]

The one thing that always makes me wonder is the statement I hear so often about how it's just marijuana and everyone has a toke now and then. People fail to realise that every time they buy weed they are one step away from this violence.

It's no longer a cottage industry it was in the 70s.

I saw on CBC Tv last night a story about a gun shop in Poco that is owned by a serious member of the UN gang. I didn't get much of it as I tuned in late and there was a lot going on around me. No other TV or radio station seems to be mentioning it. Does anyone know about it?

BTW if you're waiting for the RCMP to solve this problem you're an idiot. Ever had reason to call the RCMP for help? If they come the same day you are getting exceptional service.

Solution: End the prohibtion of marijuana. We have the ability to control the marijuana industry because it is grown right in our back yard...if we legalize it and take the huge profits that drive other aspects of it, such as grow-ups, money laundering, guns, gangs. Instead sell it like cigarettes, alcohol, coffee, ect., tax it, use the tax for education and to help addiction, then at least we have control. Of course people will say that the U.S. won't like it, tough luck, I think they have their own problems to worry about.

 

[Stella_Hardon]

CBC News. CBC actually gave the stage name of a local dancer involved on the 6:00 News
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Vancouver police charge alleged gangsters with attempted murder
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 | 2:16 PM PT

CBC News

Police allege Barzan Tilli-Choli, in the red frame of this photo, is a key member of the UN gang, whose members were captured in this rare photo at a gang gathering.Police allege Barzan Tilli-Choli, in the red frame of this photo, is a key member of the UN gang, whose members were captured in this rare photo at a gang gathering. (CBC)

An alleged leader of the notorious United Nations gang has been arrested along with his "lieutenant" and a number of his associates, according to police in Vancouver.

Barzan Tilli-Choli, 26, was arrested and charged over the weekend with two counts of attempted murder, police said Tuesday morning in Vancouver.

Investigators allege Tilli-Choli is a key leader of the UN gang, which is involved in a turf war over the drug trade in British Columbia's Lower Mainland.

"We caught the bad guy," said Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu at a joint news conference with the RCMP on Tuesday morning.

"To be clear, this is not your average run-of-the-mill bad guy. He is one of the top threats to public safety in the Lower Mainland," said Chu. "This is a major blow, to the gangs generally and to the UN gang specifically."

Also charged were Aram Ali, 23, of Vancouver, who police said is an associate of the UN gang, and Nicola Cottrell, 26, of New Westminster, who police allege is a known associate of Tilli-Choli.

Sarah Jane Trebble, 28, of West Vancouver was also arrested. She is charged with one count of occupying a vehicle knowing that there was a firearm in that vehicle.

And Karwan Saed, 32, of Burnaby was charged with accessory after the fact to attempted murder, said police. Saed is also a member of the UN gang, alleged police.

All have appeared in provincial court in Surrey to face charges already.
Arrests followed joint investigation

The group was charged in a shooting outside the T-Barz Lounge, a strip club in Surrey, on Feb 16.

Police believe the target was an associate of the Bacon brothers, three brothers alleged to be involved in the rival Red Scorpion gang.

"During that incident, a Range Rover had stopped at an intersection when an SUV approached and shots rang out striking the male driver in the left shoulder," police said in a statement released Tuesday.

"In this Range Rover were two women and one other male who was seated behind the driver. The target of the shooting is a known associate of the Bacon brothers," said police.

The arrests were part of the work of a multi-agency investigation called Project Rebellion mounted by Vancouver police and the RCMP six months ago, said Chu.

The operation was led by Insp. Mike Porteous and involved scores of officers who regularly worked double shifts.

The investigation also prevented a large number of shootings, killings and attempted kidnappings, despite the recent surge in gang violence in the Lower Mainland, said Porteous

 

[dipitydoo]

fuckers

I don't know what you guys feel about it, (and I know I'm about to open a can of worms here) but do you think immigrants in Canada that are found guilty on a gang related crime should be deported?

I am not sure, but man, a hard stance has to be taken on these buffoons and they should be punished with all the extent of the law. Unfortunately the law is way too soft with these crooks and they are set free in no time.

It's very upsetting to have all this happen here, a place that was well known throughout the world as being a peaceful and civil place to live.

 

[Stella_Hardon]

I don't know what you guys feel about it, (and I know I'm about to open a can of worms here) but do you think immigrants in Canada that are found guilty on a gang related crime should be deported?

I am not sure, but man, a hard stance has to be taken on these buffoons and they should be punished with all the extent of the law. Unfortunately the law is way too soft with these crooks and they are set free in no time.

It's very upsetting to have all this happen here, a place that was well known throughout the world as being a peaceful and civil place to live.

I would suspect that majority of gangsters are mainly home grown.

 

[Fillup]

Two points to make here.

Legalizing weed would not solve our problem because most of it goes south of the border where it is illegal. Does anyone want this city to become like Bangkok is for sex tourists? Every dope smoker in North America would be coming here to get baked.

I think that if you are not a citizen and you commit a serious crime in Canada you should be deported. Nobody here legally, working and living here would want to be associated with these criminals anyways. Just because you are from the same country doesn't mean you would support such violence by a fellow immigrant.

BTW we seem to have reached a new level of violence last night.

 

[uncleg]

So, what are you going to do about it? I'm guessing this is as far as you'll actually go, yes?

So, what do you expect him to do about ? Should he maybe buy a gun and go gangster hunting ?

Hiring more police won't do anything. Maybe their will eventually be more arrests but our justice system will just let them go with a slap on the wrist.

I don't like the idea that woman are being shot while their kids are in the back seat but whatever happens I just hope that "real innocent" people aren't hurt in the crossfire.

At the rate these execution style killings are taking place maybe they will rid themselves by the time 2010 rolls around. Thankfully there hasn't been any innocent bystanders hurt yet.

Where the f**k have you been ? Innocent people have been getting killed. Think, "Surrey Hi-rise, six people killed. Two were innocent bystanders."

 

[Shakerod]

Two points to make here.

Legalizing weed would not solve our problem because most of it goes south of the border where it is illegal. Does anyone want this city to become like Bangkok is for sex tourists? Every dope smoker in North America would be coming here to get baked.

I think that if you are not a citizen and you commit a serious crime in Canada you should be deported. Nobody here legally, working and living here would want to be associated with these criminals anyways. Just because you are from the same country doesn't mean you would support such violence by a fellow immigrant.

BTW we seem to have reached a new level of violence last night.

Remember under the Charter of Rights once an immigrant gets off the plane or boat they have the same rights as every other citizen, so that would have to be changed. I agree that could be an option, but I am not convinced that the lawyers who get rich off of the Charter of Rights would like it. Also, would you rather have a city full of harmless pot smokers, or dangerous gang members?

 

[Fillup]

So we are at the point where we have to choose one or the other? I don't think so. The problem here is with our police forces and the unions that protect the cops no matter what they do, or in most cases what they don't do.

I remember after the Whalley Ring Road 6 homicides a special task force was formed and the first thing said at the press conference was that they would have special jackets. Special jackets. I'm sure that made everyone feel safer.

Now PM Harper increases the penalty for homicide. When was the last time anyone was convicted in this Province?

Meanwhile RCMP officers are repeatedly tasering people, getting drunk and killing people in car crashes and a bunch of suburban cops get together for a night of drinking and end up beating a newspaper delivery man. It almost seems like we need someone to protect us from the police.

And don't get it twisted I'm a Law and Order Dude.

 

[Shakerod]

So we are at the point where we have to choose one or the other? I don't think so. The problem here is with our police forces and the unions that protect the cops no matter what they do, or in most cases what they don't do.

I remember after the Whalley Ring Road 6 homicides a special task force was formed and the first thing said at the press conference was that they would have special jackets. Special jackets. I'm sure that made everyone feel safer.

Now PM Harper increases the penalty for homicide. When was the last time anyone was convicted in this Province?

Meanwhile RCMP officers are repeatedly tasering people, getting drunk and killing people in car crashes and a bunch of suburban cops get together for a night of drinking and end up beating a newspaper delivery man. It almost seems like we need someone to protect us from the police.

And don't get it twisted I'm a Law and Order Dude.

So what's your solution?