What exactly am I paying a SW/Cardate for?

[DriveNDive]

I've got a question. If I decide to pick up a SW or make arrangements for a car-date with a SP, can I assume that if I ask for a blowjob or FS/BJ or whatever I request, that the deed needs to be completed to orgasm (in a reasonable period of time based on the money spent)?

It has never come up with incalls or outcalls, as I have yet to get really horrible service, even if I wind up finishing with a HJ after FS. But are the rules the same for street-side action or car-dates? if I agree to $80 for a car date, do I need to stipulate my orgasm as a point of sale item?

Apologies if this seems ridiculous, but i'm relatively new to all this, and have always loved sex in cars to be honest, so I want to find out the rules of this road. I know what I get from SP's - usually discussed beforehand - do I take the same tact on the roads?

Cheers all

DND.

 

[DriveNDive]

Ok! thats what i wanted to know. It also means I have apparently fallen for the "well im tired how was that" trap after 5-10m and let em off the job too easily. Im all for fair value... hell $40 for 15m work is pretty reasonable in my book.

thanks hatrick.

 

[gmunnies]

you guys should be really careful of these street walkers who charge less than 60, they might look sexy and fine but i know from experience and lots of old girl friends who were on crack and heroin for years but looked beautiful still with regular sized bodies, they usually smoked though not injected. These girls who are on the street charging that low are mostly on drugs because they want fast money quick enough so they can do the deed and meet there dealers 5 mins later, So if u don't mind supporting drug habits then by all means go for it! But just saying from experience and from what i have seen (plus i have spoken with drug dealers who say the same thing - their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk!!!) with heroin you cant tell because they are very mellow and calm so they seem sober

 

[Pillowtalk]

you guys should be really careful of these street walkers who charge less than 60, they might look sexy and fine but i know from experience and lots of old girl friends who were on crack and heroin for years but looked beautiful still with regular sized bodies, they usually smoked though not injected. These girls who are on the street charging that low are mostly on drugs because they want fast money quick enough so they can do the deed and meet there dealers 5 mins later, So if u don't mind supporting drug habits then by all means go for it! But just saying from experience and from what i have seen (plus i have spoken with drug dealers who say the same thing - their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk!!!) with heroin you cant tell because they are very mellow and calm so they seem sober

Although I think it might be reasonable to expect they might be on drugs, I am not sure how that matters one way or the other unless they are so high they pass out or get really twitchy and run off before anything happens.

Just that is she provides what was agreed upon for the rate discussed, what difference does her sobriety, and her reasons for charging less, have to do with anything. I don't think someone in a car should be charging the same as someone offering incall, so the trade off is in the comfort, and convenience I guess, more than anything.


What I don't get are the ones who advertise they can do incall, but car dates are also an option, like that is a good thing. I get it if they only can do outcalls, and offer cardate as a possible alternative.

 

[Sonny]

What I don't get are the ones who advertise they can do incall, but car dates are also an option, like that is a good thing. I get it if they only can do outcalls, and offer cardate as a possible alternative.

Their incall is some SRO in the Hastings / Main area. So a car date may be a good thing, relatively speaking.

 

[lenny]

Ok! thats what i wanted to know. It also means I have apparently fallen for the "well im tired how was that" trap after 5-10m and let em off the job too easily. Im all for fair value... hell $40 for 15m work is pretty reasonable in my book.

Length of time is something i'd recommend negotiating beforehand. A girl may be used to a guy finishing in 5 or 10 minutes, so if you are going beyond that then she may feel entitled to leave or extra pay.

In Bangkok if a street girl has agreed to an hour but claims to be tired after 2 minutes of doing a BBBJ, i'll make her stay in my room for the whole hour, even if i'm just reading a book. This rarely happens since they are generally wired to please. Moreover they don't want to "lose face" with their co-worker "sisters" for being "no good".

In Vancouver with DTES streetwalkers i didn't know or trust, i generally demanded it be postpayment, or no deal. If she doesn't deliver on the agreement, then i'm not morally obligated to pay.

 

[lenny]

you guys should be really careful of these street walkers who charge less than 60, they might look sexy and fine but i know from experience and lots of old girl friends who were on crack and heroin for years but looked beautiful still with regular sized bodies, they usually smoked though not injected. These girls who are on the street charging that low are mostly on drugs because they want fast money quick enough so they can do the deed and meet there dealers 5 mins later, So if u don't mind supporting drug habits then by all means go for it! But just saying from experience and from what i have seen (plus i have spoken with drug dealers who say the same thing - their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk!!!) with heroin you cant tell because they are very mellow and calm so they seem sober

Hatrick has many years of experience, so i'm sure he knows how to "be really careful" & could write a very interesting book about it.

Imagine how much a guy would have saved paying $60 instead of $260 every time over a few decades of pooning.

$200 (saved per session) X 52 (times a year/once a week) X 30 (years) = $312,000

How many years would one have to slave in a job to save that much?

 

[East Detroit]

you guys should be really careful of these street walkers who charge less than 60, they might look sexy and fine but i know from experience and lots of old girl friends who were on crack and heroin for years but looked beautiful still with regular sized bodies, they usually smoked though not injected. These girls who are on the street charging that low are mostly on drugs because they want fast money quick enough so they can do the deed and meet there dealers 5 mins later, So if u don't mind supporting drug habits then by all means go for it! But just saying from experience and from what i have seen (plus i have spoken with drug dealers who say the same thing - their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk!!!) with heroin you cant tell because they are very mellow and calm so they seem sober

Whether you see the girl or not, she is still an addict and will find a way to get the money to buy her next fix. You not seeing her is not going to fix the drug problem.

Here's an idea sweetie coming from a former sex worker. Go ahead and pick up that street walker, enjoy the thrill of car sex but treat her respectfully. When you've completed the deed drive her back to her corner then stop by WISH and make a donation. When you get home, fire up the computer and take 5 minutes of your porn surfing time to write our government and demand for a safer transparent sex trade.

I find your claim drug dealers told you their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk tough to swallow. In many cases years of hard drug addiction puts a toll on the body. A quick look at the mugshots of drug addicted street walkers generally shows clear evidence of the effects of hard drugs. I would go so far as to say that if hard drugs did not waste away street walkers society would be much quicker to catch the predators who violate them.

 

[Caramel]

I find your claim drug dealers told you their escort customers are always good looking even after years of smoking the junk tough to swallow. In many cases years of hard drug addiction puts a toll on the body. A quick look at the mugshots of drug addicted street walkers generally shows clear evidence of the effects of hard drugs. I would go so far as to say that if hard drugs did not waste away street walkers society would be much quicker to catch the predators who violate them.

I have to agree with gummies, I actually know women (and men) as well (not Sp's or not that I know of if they are...an older woman who is a mother, and a few in their late twenties and girls I've met at work) who are on hard drugs, dependent on heroin and Oxycontin/methadone mostly, and cocaine...yet they look completely normal. I have seen some of them without makeup, and its the same thing, they look like everyone else. I guess it depends how much they do and how they do it. But I think that the stereotypes of drug addict SW's is just that, a stereotype. And the mother I mentioned has been on drugs since before she gave birth to her kid who is now in their 20's. And you mention you've seen mugshots, and probably anti-drug ads, but do you personally know anyone in this situation? Obviously I've spent time with some of these people and their conversational skills are above average too, they are educated and employed in some way, or are only now unemployed due to their drug use and tardiness.

So looks can be deceiving...I'm shocked to hear that most of you guys don't even care? Because a lot of guys don't want to be supporting a drug habit (I wouldn't say "supporting" since they are receiving a service for which they paid for, but then again I read this on perb and it's a pooner's mentality lol) I always got the impression that a great SP should be D&D free? Hmm guess I was wrong

 

[BallzDeep]

I have to agree with gummies, I actually know women (and men) as well (not Sp's or not that I know of if they are...an older woman who is a mother, and a few in their late twenties and girls I've met at work) who are on hard drugs, dependent on heroin and Oxycontin/methadone mostly, and cocaine...yet they look completely normal. I have seen some of them without makeup, and its the same thing, they look like everyone else. I guess it depends how much they do and how they do it. But I think that the stereotypes of drug addict SW's is just that, a stereotype. And the mother I mentioned has been on drugs since before she gave birth to her kid who is now in their 20's. And you mention you've seen mugshots, and probably anti-drug ads, but do you personally know anyone in this situation? Obviously I've spent time with some of these people and their conversational skills are above average too, they are educated and employed in some way, or are only now unemployed due to their drug use and tardiness.

So looks can be deceiving...I'm shocked to hear that most of you guys don't even care? Because a lot of guys don't want to be supporting a drug habit (I wouldn't say "supporting" since they are receiving a service for which they paid for, but then again I read this on perb and it's a pooner's mentality lol) I always got the impression that a great SP should be D&D free? Hmm guess I was wrong

i guess on some level you could blame their employers by writing their cheques that buys them their drugs lol. the employer is supporting their drug habit lol.

but no, i think it stems from the fact most SW's are curbside due to fact its quick money, and once the guy comes and goes with the $50-60 purchase the SW immediately calls her dealer and gets her fix. so its a good probability the pooner has directly supported her habit.

the whole D/D thing is a joke and you know it. if everyone were D/D free we wouldnt have to wear condoms because everyone would be clean and nobody would be dealing with substance abuse issues because nobody would be on drugs!

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I'm shocked to hear that most of you guys don't even care?

that's because some of us get a bit uncomfortable with discussions about addictions, ma'am... just sayin