What do the mega-rich do when they want an escort?

[Big_Guy_Rye]

Brian Epstein on speed dial.

Pretty much this.....being 'mega-rich' puts yourself in a different reality where the rule of law, or common decency and morality doesn't matter anymore, believing you can pay anyone anything to get them to do anything you want to them without repercussion....or so Epstein thought, lol.....but still, it's not like that auction scene in Taken doesn't happen either.

If you're rich enough or famous enough, people give you shit for free. That includes sex

"Free" isn't exactly accurate, since sometimes it's a matter of gaining a connection to that other world of wealth and bliss.

 

[Newb808]

I remember a story in the news about a billionaire in Vancouver who was into DTES street walkers and himself was a drug user. Not all mega rich are the same.
And OP and others have mentioned rockstars and or other celebrities don’t have to pay, but I’m inclined to believe that many do in fact pay for discrete, expedited and no-strings sex.

 

[westwoody]

a billionaire in Vancouver who was into DTES street walkers and himself was a drug user

He never suffered any consequences for all his stunts did he?

 

[vanperb]

"Free" isn't exactly accurate, since sometimes it's a matter of gaining a connection to that other world of wealth and bliss.

Which is why I included the sentence you cut off from my quote "for the participant, it's not an exchange of services for cash anymore, it's basically playing the lottery."

 

[nwtl]

It did not turn out too well for that certain billionaire, he got arrested for some of the crazy shenanigans he pulled but he's not the only Vancouver billionaire who is into drugs and paying for sex regularly.

 

[heyhowareyou]

To simplify this, they pay them to GTFO...

 

[AMG-GTR]

There is a lot I can say about this but I’ll keep it simple.

Money is the great amplifier. A lot of those that have achieved legitimate 9 figure net worth and up live busy lives and have their own outlets.

If someone had a sex addiction or affinity for woman, money will just amplify it. Many men that have extreme wealth actually have paranoia about these types of things.

Sex is one of those things that can ruin someone and be used as blackmail and as we have seen, it can be used a decade later. Most self made wealth involves a lot of strategic thinking. Sex becomes just as methodical.

The insane parties often happens with those that are rich enough to go the distance but not The ultra wealthy. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, it’s just very different.

Ego plays a big part in it as well. My one friend says he will never pay for sex but gets his girlfriend a $700,000 car for her birthday. It’s silly but it’s based on their own principles.

Another friend will grind a car dealership to the last penny on a set of fleet vehicles for his business and then pay a premium to buy a bottle of wine at an auction because the other bidder pissed them off 6 years ago.

It’s often power and ego and it admittedly requires an intense amount of planning to get to that level.

I’ve done extremely well for myself but I’m not willing to dedicate my life to becoming a billionaire. I don’t have, or rather I have no interest in the mental stamina required to engineer that sort of life.

As was mentioned above, it’s not difficult to sleep with woman once a person reaches a certain level of wealth. It’s almost automatic and the problems become about who’s going to extort or exploit.

The few friends that I have that have crossed the $B mark you would never know. I have q few friends in DT Vancouver that blend in and they like it that way. Simply put there is too much to loose.

I find the people bragging and living the billionaire life are full of complete shit. They’ve often made $5-10m and they’re pretending to be Dan Balzarian, who was a complete lying pile of trash.

Don’t believe the shit you read or what people tell you.

 

[masterblaster]

Don’t know who dan balzarian is. It’s spelled lose by the way. Why do most people get that wrong? Drives me crazy.

 

[greythings20]

As was mentioned above, it’s not difficult to sleep with woman once a person reaches a certain level of wealth. It’s almost automatic and the problems become about who’s going to extort or exploit.

"It's almost automatic" still doesn't explain how it happens for them, though.

Are you suggesting that for such people, it becomes entirely about filtering "inbound" leads—picking between the many women who are throwing themselves at you, rather than you (or an employee of yours) going out and finding them?

I feel like it'd be impossible to trust any woman who came to you to not "extort or exploit" you, as you say. I'd think this would be a common sentiment. Wouldn't these people, then, just entirely ignore that segment of leads? And, as such, wouldn't that make finding sex not-so-automatic after all?


But beyond all this, I guess I forgot a key requirement in the initial question: to presume you're "stealth" wealthy, like you're describing your friends to be. To not be "out" about being rich. No parties, no yachts, no mansions. No bragging. No massive charitable donations, famous things with your name on them. No social-media presence. No ego! The only person who knows your wealth level is your wealth manager. To everyone else, you're an average schlub—unless and until you decide to try to use your money to get what you want. You're willing to spend ridiculous sums of money to have fun—but only discreetly, such that nobody else finds out and gets the idea that they could pursue your wealth. And having your ego stroked isn't your idea of a fun time anyway.

If you are such a person, then how do you convert your pile of money into a pile of fun sex encounters? This is what I was trying to gesture at in my original question. Not "how do globetrotting playboys get laid", but rather:

Take the most boring starch-shirt CPA-type you can imagine—someone who has never partied a day in his life; someone who likes being that way and doesn't want to become the globetrotting playboy. Assume also that he's a sex addict. Now give him unlimited money. How will he go about fulfilling his sex addiction? Where would he start? Who would he retain as a discreet advisor in this domain?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

"It's almost automatic" still doesn't explain how it happens for them, though.

Are you suggesting that for such people, it becomes entirely about filtering "inbound" leads—picking between the many women who are throwing themselves at you, rather than you (or an employee of yours) going out and finding them?

I feel like it'd be impossible to trust any woman who came to you to not "extort or exploit" you, as you say. I'd think this would be a common sentiment. Wouldn't these people, then, just entirely ignore that segment of leads? And, as such, wouldn't that make finding sex not-so-automatic after all?


But beyond all this, I guess I forgot a key requirement in the initial question: to presume you're "stealth" wealthy, like you're describing your friends to be. To not be "out" about being rich. No parties, no yachts, no mansions. No bragging. No massive charitable donations, famous things with your name on them. No social-media presence. No ego! The only person who knows your wealth level is your wealth manager. To everyone else, you're an average schlub—unless and until you decide to try to use your money to get what you want. You're willing to spend ridiculous sums of money to have fun—but only discreetly, such that nobody else finds out and gets the idea that they could pursue your wealth. And having your ego stroked isn't your idea of a fun time anyway.

If you are such a person, then how do you convert your pile of money into a pile of fun sex encounters? This is what I was trying to gesture at in my original question. Not "how do globetrotting playboys get laid", but rather:

Take the most boring starch-shirt CPA-type you can imagine—someone who has never partied a day in his life; someone who likes being that way and doesn't want to become the globetrotting playboy. Assume also that he's a sex addict. Now give him unlimited money. How will he go about fulfilling his sex addiction? Where would he start? Who would he retain as a discreet advisor in this domain?

Sounds like you're really just looking for a pussy conceirge.

 

[greythings20]

Sounds like you're really just looking for a pussy conceirge.

I mean, yes, see the first post in this thread. But such a service doesn't exist AFAIK, especially on the sort of global scale required to facilitate for people who necessarily have international presence.

And even if it did, how would you find it? If it's a "you've gotta know someone" kind of service, then you'd have to ask around amongst your rich friends, which would then leak your proclivities (and thus your weaknesses/vulnerabilities) to the world.

If such a service really did manage to exist and be retain clients over the long term, the only way I can imagine it making itself discoverable to new clients discreetly, would be if they marketed themselves through asset managers, telling those people about their services for any client that might need them, under the assumption that clients might ask their asset-manager that sort of question. It'd be sort of akin to the way that drug companies reach out to doctors to tell them about new drugs, just in case a patient asks about that drug.

But that seems pretty unlikely. So that leaves the last alternative: that, as someone with wealth, you'd have to bring such a role into existence, just for your own private use.

And if that's what wealthy people do, then I would be surprised if there weren't some tell-all unauthorized biography from a person who served in this role under NDA for some old rich guy who's now long-dead, and so is now free to blab about it.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

I mean, yes, see the first post in this thread. But such a service doesn't exist AFAIK, especially on the sort of global scale required to facilitate for people who necessarily have international presence.

And even if it did, how would you find it? If it's a "you've gotta know someone" kind of service, then you'd have to ask around amongst your rich friends, which would then leak your proclivities (and thus your weaknesses/vulnerabilities) to the world.

If such a service really did manage to exist and be retain clients over the long term, the only way I can imagine it making itself discoverable to new clients discreetly, would be if they marketed themselves through asset managers, telling those people about their services for any client that might need them, under the assumption that clients might ask their asset-manager that sort of question. It'd be sort of akin to the way that drug companies reach out to doctors to tell them about new drugs, just in case a patient asks about that drug.

But that seems pretty unlikely. So that leaves the last alternative: that, as someone with wealth, you'd have to bring such a role into existence, just for your own private use.

And if that's what wealthy people do, then I would be surprised if there weren't some tell-all unauthorized biography from a person who served in this role under NDA for some old rich guy who's now long-dead, and so is now free to blab about it.

Heidy Fliess - madame to the rich and famous, then B rate reality tv star. She outed her customers in the end to get legal and political protections.

 

[AMG-GTR]

"It's almost automatic" still doesn't explain how it happens for them, though.

I should have better explained that the opportunity presents itself a lot rather than it happening a lot.

This is the same as having a certain celebrity or clout. When things are easily available it changes the power dynamic. Usually it’s the woman that holds a lot of the cards when it comes to sex. Extreme wealth or power (essential the same thing) turns the tables.

It may sound strange but this lowers desire in some cases. Keep in mind, having a pile of money means limitless options. Wealthy people are people but they’re also driven with ideas and passions to build and create. Elon musk is a good example of someone who clearly fucks whoever he wants but is also too busy to care about sex at the same time. He’s a busy guy.

Are you suggesting that for such people, it becomes entirely about filtering "inbound" leads—picking between the many women who are throwing themselves at you, rather than you (or an employee of yours) going out and finding them?


I feel like it'd be impossible to trust any woman who came to you to not "extort or exploit" you, as you say. I'd think this would be a common sentiment. Wouldn't these people, then, just entirely ignore that segment of leads? And, as such, wouldn't that make finding sex not-so-automatic after all?

Correct! Trust is a huge issue. Fighting off competitors, corporate raiders, internal mischief within organizations, constant lawsuits and everything in between is stressful. It’s not for everyone and it takes a lot of self care and positivity to see humanity in a positive light.

Most of the time, inbound leads will be under a lot of scrutiny. One woman I know who’s close enough to the $B mark hired a team of investigators to search and follow her now husband. He checked out but she wasn’t about to take her chances. In that world it’s not considered rude since there is so much at stake.

Most encounters are about who’s in what social circle or personal relationship or connection. When it comes to just random woman, lawyers can handle a lot of it. Celebrities (some of them) have been doing this for a long time which is why they keep their nose clean

But beyond all this, I guess I forgot a key requirement in the initial question: to presume you're "stealth" wealthy, like you're describing your friends to be. To not be "out" about being rich. No parties, no yachts, no mansions. No bragging. No massive charitable donations, famous things with your name on them. No social-media presence. No ego!

No ego. That’s a good one haha. Ego is always present. How they show it may vary.

I should have better clarified. Stealth is a comparative word. $10M to $100M to $1B for example. Most definitely they are not stealth compared with someone that’s 9-5

I’m not at the $B mark and my life may seem somewhat indistinguishable at first glance. Same neighborhoods, similar cars, similar clothes. We travel and golf at the same resorts etc.

Let me tell you it is VERY different.

I could go on and on but it would sound like I’m complaining and that usually just triggers people and makes them angry. There are massive differences though.

The only person who knows your wealth level is your wealth manager. To everyone else, you're an average schlub—unless and until you decide to try to use your money to get what you want. You're willing to spend ridiculous sums of money to have fun—but only discreetly, such that nobody else finds out and gets the idea that they could pursue your wealth. And having your ego stroked isn't your idea of a fun time anyway.

If you are such a person, then how do you convert your pile of money into a pile of fun sex encounters? This is what I was trying to gesture at in my original question. Not "how do globetrotting playboys get laid", but rather:

Take the most boring starch-shirt CPA-type you can imagine—someone who has never partied a day in his life; someone who likes being that way and doesn't want to become the globetrotting playboy. Assume also that he's a sex addict. Now give him unlimited money. How will he go about fulfilling his sex addiction? Where would he start? Who would he retain as a discreet advisor in this domain?

If they just want a one time thing they can be like me and just see random second rate girls because why not? Haha

Cleary I have issues.

It’s boredom for me to be candid. If I was really seriousjust stick to the $500/hr girls, rent a condo and just start the revolving door.

What’s $3-4k a day when you’re making $1M a month? My friend paid $20,000 to take an SP on a 2 week vacation and on the way home he called another one up and did another 2 weeks at the same resort.

If a guy is clueless how to go about it, there are people that specialize in this. Yup that’s right. They get your Instagram spiffed up and start DMing models and strippers and whoever and they’ll get things moving.

Lots of options but again, most of the Uber wealthy operate much differently.

 

[Bunghole1]

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[JimDandy]

Hmmm, I am so rich I get someone to do the deed for me ;-)

Cory

Right! But they would need to write a very detailed report to let you know just how much you enjoyed it

JD

 

[JimDandy]

I think that's downright bizarre! I'm no socialist, but at the same time I think the rich should be paying MORE not LESS!

Not the way it works in some societies at least. At least those societies that have distinct classes.

I remember a few years ago going for dinner in a Chinese restaurant with this lady that was very well off who had emigratedd from Shanghai a few years before. We were served by a lady that had clearly come from China as well based on her accent, but was clearly of a different class. When it came time to pay the bill the serving lady said that she did not require any tip, or at most, a very small tip. She was clearly indicating in her manner that she felt that my Chinese friend was a higher class individual than herself and deserved special allowances therefore. I remember finding it ironic that a communist country like China had such a distinct class system. A reminder that it was time for me to read Animal Farm again

This same friend, when she first moved to Canada from Shanghai, kept remarking about how Canadians seemed to be poorer than the people she had associated with in Shanghai, only the way she said it seemed to imply all of China was better off, not just her wealthy friends in Shanghai. I had to have her Google the average income of Chinese people to make her acknowledge that in fact Canadians on average are MUCH wealthier than Chinese citizens, just not her wealty friends in Shaghai.

JD

 

[AMG-GTR]

Not the way it works in some societies at least. At least those societies that have distinct classes.

I remember a few years ago going for dinner in a Chinese restaurant with this lady that was very well off who had emigratedd from Shanghai a few years before. We were served by a lady that had clearly come from China as well based on her accent, but was clearly of a different class. When it came time to pay the bill the serving lady said that she did not require any tip, or at most, a very small tip. She was clearly indicating in her manner that she felt that my Chinese friend was a higher class individual than herself and deserved special allowances therefore. I remember finding it ironic that a communist country like China had such a distinct class system. A reminder that it was time for me to read Animal Farm again

This same friend, when she first moved to Canada from Shanghai, kept remarking about how Canadians seemed to be poorer than the people she had associated with in Shanghai, only the way she said it seemed to imply all of China was better off, not just her wealthy friends in Shanghai. I had to have her Google the average income of Chinese people to make her acknowledge that in fact Canadians on average are MUCH wealthier than Chinese citizens, just not her wealty friends in Shaghai.

JD

China is a very weird place. The wealthy are extremely wealthy compared with people in Canada. The wealth gap is a huge issue in Asia in general. I used to think people were exaggerating about how people would spend money in Asia until I went there to do business myself.

We see it as extreme when university students get a Ferrari or a Lamborghini as their choice of commuter car. For them, it’s meaningless in terms of cost.

Its just a different world. Canadians are not rich compared to the 50 million people in China that are lucky enough to be on the winning side of the equation.

As for the other 1.55 billion, go visit your local micro since that’s the best option for the rest.

 

[AMG-GTR]

Don’t know who dan balzarian is. It’s spelled lose by the way. Why do most people get that wrong? Drives me crazy.

Dan Bilzerian was a self proclaimed mega-rich poker player who had woman around the world throwing themselves at him.

I actually met him in Vegas once and while a seemingly nice enough guy, it was clear he was full of shit since I had worked with people that had worked with his father. His father stole a lot of money and hid the money off shore. He was a trust fund baby.

Years later, his story caught up with him and it was found that his entourage of woman were on the payroll and he was nothing more than a sham. He was highly entertaining and did and incredible job of marketing himself which I can give credit for. His net worth is not anywhere close to what the internet says but that doesn’t really matter. Compared to an average person he’s “rich enough” I guess.

I’m not sure if he’s still around after being ousted but he has an amazing PR team so I’m sure they’ve found a way to spin his story.

And yes, lose (I find that misspelling annoying as well. Sorry it autocorrects to loose because I write that word frequently

 

[JimDandy]

Professional athletes seem to be the ones who learn this the hard way ...

The NFL and a few other leagues puts rookies through a required class on what to do/what not to do and their agents are involved as well. A university classmate of mine went on to quite a successful career in sport and his stories of the groupies trying to trap guys were hilarious. He learned to bring and use only his own condoms, as he found plenty of holes in some of them that came out of the groupies purse.

Lots of ladies in Vancouver are just looking to get knocked up by someone with a lot of money so they can live on the child support. Call it the Blue Edwards effect. Don't forget, child support is tax free!

In the first season of Ray Donovan, if my memory serves me correct, a professional athlete is complaining to his agent how he cannot figure out how it is that all these ladies are successfully bringing paternity suits against him despite the fact that he always uses a condom. Later we see a young lady, after having sex with this same guy, grabbing the used condom, putting it in the drink ice bucket and then setting it in the hallway outside of the hotel door, when the idiot athelite makes a quick trip to the bathroom after coitus. And then shortly afterward we see someone collecting the ice bucket with the condom lol. Pretty hilarious.

JD

 

[greythings20]

I’m not sure if he’s still around after being ousted but he has an amazing PR team so I’m sure they’ve found a way to spin his story.

He is!

He learned to bring and use only his own condoms, as he found plenty of holes in some of them that came out of the groupies purse.

I'm surprised more of these people don't freeze their sperm and then get a vasectomy. Can't make what you don't shoot!