What do SP's hope for in a client/pooner ?
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LOL..yeah ok..what ever you say man..you have a merry christmas..from one niblet to anothertimec said:what a niblet
it's an easy read - less than a dozen posts --- have a second read through them Chuck1561. I do read a lot of judgement coming through - but it's not really from farked2 as much as someone else
I'll get you at recess though
All I'm saying is that it'd be difficult to tell a potential boyfriend/girlfriend who was not a pooner/SP about your past without getting smacked.
And yes, I haven't seen an SP before because I think it's a soily thing to do. I have sexual instincts as do we all, but I'm convinced you'd have the same disgusting feelings as you would after jacking off if you were to pay someone for sex...
Merry Christmas, chuck1561.
And yes, I haven't seen an SP before because I think it's a soily thing to do. I have sexual instincts as do we all, but I'm convinced you'd have the same disgusting feelings as you would after jacking off if you were to pay someone for sex...
Merry Christmas, chuck1561.
chuck1561 said:all this from someone who's never met or been with an escort..guess we're not human to you? you must be one of those "Self Respecting" people
just curious..why are you here anyway..other than to pass judgement on others ?
so again I ask you why are you here? hope those people you are talking about wouldn't mind being SMACKED right back..lol them being perfect and allfarked2 said:
man if it's a soily thing to do..then you must be just swimming in all the degredation you're finding here..lol Originally posted by timec
what a niblet
it's an easy read - less than a dozen posts --- have a second read through them Chuck1561. I do read a lot of judgement coming through - but it's not really from farked2 as much as someone else
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And who might that be?
Yes, I realize I have only a dozen posts. And chuck1561 has almost 1900... I'm sure a guy who posts that much on PERB is a real winner...
what a niblet
it's an easy read - less than a dozen posts --- have a second read through them Chuck1561. I do read a lot of judgement coming through - but it's not really from farked2 as much as someone else
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And who might that be?
Yes, I realize I have only a dozen posts. And chuck1561 has almost 1900... I'm sure a guy who posts that much on PERB is a real winner...
You got it pal
chuck1561 said:so again I ask you why are you here? hope those people you are talking about wouldn't mind being SMACKED right back..lol them being perfect and all
never said I was anything..just resent someone who's soul reason for being here is to put down the members of the board for what they do!! I'm glad you're passing judgement on me..just goes to show whatever religion you're trying to convert people to is just as hypocritical as you arefarked2 said:
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And the Oscar goes to....
Originally posted by O-Shoes.
Monica may be the exception but I find it hard to believe any SP gets really turned on when we are having fun with them.
....there is no sincerity in the interaction...
I am a realist and understand that this is a business and nothing else. We all should expect nothing more...
We are paying for a service, they are not paying us... [\QUOTE]
[Long Post that is no more than a meaningless rant so skip to the next post or sit back, relax and enjoy a coffee while reading. ]
Actually, a few SPs posted they would like to hire a male escort to pleasure them. If you search you'll find such a post by Okanagan Beauty. I think she's hired me as a male escort to be her "boy toy" (admittedly its without payment to me other than she promised no whining, bitching or complaining about the session - which definitely means it won't be a true GFE! so is worth more than money itself).
The problem with making generalizations is that there are often many exceptions to the rule.
I notice you're from Alberta. Perhaps things are different in Alberta, perhaps not.
First, some serious observations. Then some not so serious.
Granted, some SPs may never orgasm with a client. Sometimes they'll fake an orgasm whenever they think that's what the client wants, sometimes they'll fake an orgasm to try to get the client to cum early. Other times they won't even bother trying to fake an orgasm.
There are some SPs, on the other hand, who allow themselves to orgasm - especially with clients with whom they feel comfortable and especially with some regular clients. As pointed out by some SPs above, SPs are human after all and sometimes their biological responses take over of their own accord.
In my experience some SPs do have orgasms, and some can on occasion even be multi-orgasmic (say hello Alexis - or if you're faking it then take multiple bows because your acting skills are superb!). Some SPs may be able to manage only one orgasm (similar to us one-shot guys). And, indeed, some SPs may never be able to orgasm with a client.
But then again, research and studies have shown that some girlfriends and wives can also never orgasm even with their boyfriends/husbands.
One reason many SPs don't orgasm during a session is that women generally take much much longer to be aroused than men. They also respond to different stimular than men, and respond differently to those stimula.
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TYPICAL SESSION? - OR HOW TO GUARANTEE A FAKED ORGASM AT BEST
Let's look at a typical (
Client shows up thinking he's so good lucking and such a great lover that the SP should be paying him. After all, he took a bath last week and the clothes he pulled from the clothes hamper have only been worn 3 days. No one sees underwear so they're good for a week. The anchovy and garlic pizza he wolfed down in the car on the way over will ensure that he's not hungry during the session - but there's a tang of guilt that he didn't save her a piece.
The client takes what he considers a needless shower, really just to appease the SP and get her to stop sounding like his nagging girlfriend. He comes out of the shower and sees a beautiful naked lady with open arms and open legs waiting for him. Well, that's all the stimula he needs and he immediately springs an instant woody. He rushes over to her before his instant woody becomes a wooden fountain gushing forth. If he is young, inexperienced and hasn't had sex in a long time he's praying he won't go off as soon as she touches him. He at least wants to get it inside her otherwise how can he go for the MSOG in a half-hour record. Geez- he forgot to ask if MSOG is on the menu and starts panicking at the thought of having to engage in any meaningful conversation (and no, "nice tits" does not classify as either meaningful conversation or a compliment
The SP, on the other hand, perhaps sees a naked middle-aged, fat, balding guy walking towards her looking like someone who just escaped from the movie set playing a troll in the next Harry Potter film - and who hasn't had time to remove the make-up. She shudders - not with anticipation but at the thought that it's hard to see how anyone can take a complete shower and towel themselves off in only 15 seconds max. Or, it may be at the sight of a length of toilet paper trailing behind the guy that is stuck in the crack of his a**.
When he reaches her, he immediately begins to paw at her breasts and, thinking of the finger-holes he's seen in a bowling ball from 10-pin bowling, immediately inserts his fingers with broken fingernails into her vagina and tries to lift her off her feet. She struggles to get the condom onto woody without him cumming. On the other hand, perhaps he's really young and inexperienced and somehow able to survive a few minutes of cbj without cumming - in which case the SP begins to marvel at his stamina. She starts to smile at the thought of how many times he must have jacked off before showing up - then wonders if he did so in those 10 seconds in the shower - ewwww!). If he's old, her jaw begins to hurt and she wonders how long she'll have to keep going with cbj before she can get his penis hard enough so that FS can finally start. Since she's so obviously turned on by the guy's appearance, attitude and attempt to lift her off her feet with his index finger (or two) in her vagina, she only needs a litre of lube (for you Yanks, think about a small quart).
Finally, FS begins! Somewhere between a couple strokes and a couple minutes she hears the client emit a grunt and ask/deman "did you cum? you did cum didn't you? was it good for you?"
If the guy is a young stud with great recovery looking to set an all new MSOG record, she has all this to look forward to again, and again, and again. As she stares up at the ceiling wondering when the client will treat her better than a blow-up doll she begins to reconsider the merits of offering 10 minute specials in future.
Now the real question: did she have a real orgasm or did she fake it?
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Now, if an SP has never experienced sessions like the above, then I apologize profusely to you. You must be naturally lucky - will you pick out my lottery tickets for me?
On the other hand, I look forward to hearing from SPs who think the above so accurately describes some of their sessions that I must have planted a camera in their room. I need to know who you are as I seem to have mis-placed a couple birds-eye cameras.
I shudder to think that the above describes any session I've had with an SP. If so, I humbly and sincerely apologize to the SP. It won't happen again because I've learned a lot from PERB over the last few years - such as use Brillo pads in the shower to make sure you're really clean and, more importantly, make sure to check and remove the toilet paper from the crack of your a** before leaving the bathroom.
Personally, I try not to sweat the small stuff with SPs, so:
If we both enjoy ourselves and we both have orgams - fine.
If I have an orgasm and she doesn't, fine - no need to fake it.
If she orgasms and I can't finish - even in overtime. Fine.
If neither of us has an orgasm but we both still had a great time - that's also fine.
If I'm clean and respectful BUT she's not as advertised, she's rushed, she's rude, she has poor attitude, or she doesn't offer at least basic cbj or FS, then that's NEVER fine regardless of the price.
When a session goes well with an attractive SP with a great attitude and personality, when there's lots and lots of really really erotic foreplay, when after 20 minutes of FS she suddenly reaches down with one hand and frigs herself furiously all the while yelling that you better not stop, slow down or cum yet and with the other hand squeezes her breasts like crazy, when she becomes flushed around the nape of her neck and her breasts, and when she suddenly begins to shudder and her legs spasm violently and uncontrollably, that's a tough act for any actress. Now if all of that was to just fake an orgasm, not only does she deserve every penny I paid but also an Oscar for best performance by a female actress.
Penhold
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Looking for a cold shower.
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Oh mama - that was a quote made in haste, when you were still a naive noob --- your subsequent "soily comment" puts you into another category where your (lack of) judgement is coming through strong. How about this - we chill out on this discussion before I call you a sactimonius asshat - or somethinfarked2 said:
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farked2, you've got some serious issues to deal with.farked2 said:
The first part of your post isn't a problem. After all, everyone has to admit that there is a stigma attached to the sex trade. Perhaps because it leads so many religious leaders and politicians astray.
Admittedly, it would be difficult for an SP or pooner to admit their past to a potential boyfriend/girlfriend without some fear of the response/attitude that they'd get. BUT if someone has been very sexually active for a number of years with a large number of women who aren't SPs (i.e. had numerous girlfriends or just "freebies"), that too would be difficult to disclose to a potential boyfriend/girlfriend. Everyone likes to think "they're the first".
Reminds me of of the joke about the young stud who was asked about his ambition in life. He replied that he wanted to deflower every virgin in the world but one since he wanted to marry a virgin. He'd then marry the last virgin so he could do her as well.
Obviously, many people can look beyond the past of a sex trade worker or client - just look at how many SPs on this and other boards who retire after finding "Mr. Right" and ultimately get married (or retire for awhile after finding "Mr. Temporarily Right"
). In many of those cases the guy did know about her past. Obviously, they were able to get over it and focus instead on her inner beauty, strength of character and other attributes. And as a bonus, the worst sex the guy will likely get from his ex-SP wife will likely be better than the best sex the rest of us ever get from any woman - wife, SP or otherwise. You also said:
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"I haven't seen an SP before because I think it's a soily thing to do. I have sexual instincts as do we all, but I'm convinced you'd have the same disgusting feelings as you would after jacking off if you were to pay someone for sex... "
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These comments illustrate that you have some very serious issues about sex in general that need to be addressed. I can't recall hearing the last time I heard someone say they felt disgusted and that they've degraded themselves by jacking off to relieve pent-up sexual "instincts". I'm fairly old, so perhaps it was in the middle ages - like when the Catholic Church was doing its best to instill guilt in the great unwashed.
Wake up and welcome to the 21st century. You really need to find a good counsellor who can help you deal with some of your pent up emotions and remove this huge guilt you must feel over masturbation. If you feel such guilt over masturbation, how do you feel about other sex acts? Or are you so racked with guilt about sex that it's reserved for after marriage and then only in the missionary position (and never on a Sunday or Saturday, depending on your religion). By the way, what do you think of Greek?
You are welcome to express whatever opinions you have on PERB. Don't be surprised, however, if others don't agree with your views.
But you really have to deal with your issues about masturbation. Otherwise, you'll be forever racked with guilt - or faced in the morning with trying to deal with a wet, gooey mess in the front of your pyjama bottoms (wear pjs and save the sheets!).
O-Shoes said:
I have to disagree O-Shoes ... I'm under no illusions that I'm the greatest lover on the planet, or even in Winnipeg, but I'd like to think that the sp's I see enjoy my company and find the sex enjoyable ... not necessarily orgasmic (that would be great ... but I'm a smart enough bear to admit they're probably faking), but i try my best.
Frankly, if you treat her with respect, show up clean, pay your bills, and put an effort into pleasing her ... rather than just treating it as being all about you, then each time the sex just gets better and better. And also, the sp is usually willing to make a bigger effort for you on repeat visits. I'd like to think that's because she's enjoying it to.
Just my .02.
As for Farked2 ... Christ don't know where to start with this guy ... you could probably get voluntary chemical sterilization so you would no longer be tormented by this anymore.
Tom
Yikes, I thought my posts were long.
farked2 just has some morals and it is true who would share the info and who would marry an SP if you knew her past? I agree with that point. Maybe he is just at the beginning stages and is about to experience his first SP
You guys remember what it was like... You gain more respect for SP's as you get to know them. You also see other sides of SP's you would rather not know about..
Anyway, Happy pooning everyone, and may she have an orgasm with you! but do you really care?
farked2 just has some morals and it is true who would share the info and who would marry an SP if you knew her past? I agree with that point. Maybe he is just at the beginning stages and is about to experience his first SP
You guys remember what it was like... You gain more respect for SP's as you get to know them. You also see other sides of SP's you would rather not know about..
Anyway, Happy pooning everyone, and may she have an orgasm with you! but do you really care?
No .... don't really, but I hope she's enjoying herself (at least a little)O-Shoes said:
Would you marry an sp if you knew her past ... depends on the sp. Before I started the hobby I likely would have said no. Today, I don't think it would bother me in the least.
Tom
I was going to post something relevant, but it's christmas in a few days and I don't want to depress anyone (or myself for that matter) or get into some heated discussion that's going to upset some.
So... I'll just walk away from this one...
Merry X'mas and Happy New Year
So... I'll just walk away from this one...
Merry X'mas and Happy New Year
Hope or Expectation is the operative word. I think they expect safety (physical and mental) and payment for their services. It's that simple.
All other activities (FS, O's, love, intimacy, etc.) are subjective and post expectation of a financial transaction. If you want to discuss those post expectation possibilities that is another subject.
What do I know, I'm just your over achieving geek that reads/analyzes to damn much data.
Happy holidays.
All other activities (FS, O's, love, intimacy, etc.) are subjective and post expectation of a financial transaction. If you want to discuss those post expectation possibilities that is another subject.
What do I know, I'm just your over achieving geek that reads/analyzes to damn much data.
Happy holidays.
Good intelligent posts, Silkrose. For me, seeing an SP is just a nice interlude until something better (i.e. a real girlfriend) comes along. Although I have had some wonderful sessions with warm and sexy babes in the business, I always leave feeling somewhat disappointed. I've come to realize the best sex is with someone who really cares.
planteman
For some it isn't "all about the money".
And I have nothing to gain or lose if I do sound greedy or not.
I agree for the most part with "SILKROSE"!
There are exceptions to every rule.
Happy Holidays!
For some it isn't "all about the money".
And I have nothing to gain or lose if I do sound greedy or not.
I agree for the most part with "SILKROSE"!
There are exceptions to every rule.
Happy Holidays!
Anyone notice how these posts seem to deteriorate more and more quickly lately? Without seeming patronizing, I support Monica's criteria because that is the way I look at it from my end.
If you want to spread your wings and try every SP like a dog that is post scenting, that is one thing. I have wasted so much friggin' time finding SPs that are decent people that I am not willing to let them go.
I never have a problem trying to satisfy the lady first because I am not a customer that likes to cum first. I enjoy treating them like ladies with my actions and with my words and if they get into the sex and enjoy it then so much the better for me because I know I will benefit.
Respect is all encompassing and I think that is what I like to focus on.
M
If you want to spread your wings and try every SP like a dog that is post scenting, that is one thing. I have wasted so much friggin' time finding SPs that are decent people that I am not willing to let them go.
I never have a problem trying to satisfy the lady first because I am not a customer that likes to cum first. I enjoy treating them like ladies with my actions and with my words and if they get into the sex and enjoy it then so much the better for me because I know I will benefit.
Respect is all encompassing and I think that is what I like to focus on.
M
