What a Girl Want's?

[hardup]

OK to start with, my experiences with Sp's have been 99.9% great, I have my favorites and have tried others and have seldom been disappointed. I have also read here time and time how this girl won't do this or wouldn't do that and have kept quiet knowing that my experience was completely different.

Do I have a secret....Let's see

First let me say that I love women, everything about them, and enjoy spending time with them in all aspects. I also see myself as a gentleman and treat these ladies as a gentleman should.

I get ready for an appointment as I would any other date,
ie. shower, shave, deodorant, cologne, trim my nail's, brush my teeth, use mouthwash and even swath the pubes when needed, find out what she likes to drink and have some on hand and I might pick up some flowers or a small gift.

Now maybe I'm a knob but I figure that even if I'm paying for her time that we should enjoy ourselves and first impressions go a long way. I've always found that my enjoyment is directly related to hers. That is to say, if she is comfortable and taken care of then so am I.

I read posts from guy's that bitch and whine about this girl and that girl and I'm just guessin but maybe it's not the girls.

I figure that if you treat them like a whore that's exactly what you'll get but if you treat them with dignity and respect and act like you enjoy their company YourMilage won't vary as much.

BUT that's just my opinion....anyone want to set me straight?

 

[nowayjose]

Well said. I couldn't agree more. The same common sense applies to any situation where you are paying for a service. The more pleasant the experience for the service provider, the better experience they will be able to provide. I used to be a waiter in days gone by and gave better service to those who treated me with respect than those who acted like assholes. People who don't get this will certainly find that their 'M' does 'V'.

 

[LonelyGhost]

well whoopdee frickin do ... many of us also utilize personal hygiene, act like human beings, and go out of our way to treat others well but still get a pile of crap in return.

if you have been so fortunate to have every experience be perfect you have either had limited experiences, have low standards or phenomenal luck.

I showed up for an appointment, showered, shaved, deoderized etc etc etc and had the sp walk into the room and before i could say a word she threw an open condom at me and told me to put that on before anything was going to happen.

is that your idea of me bitchin about nothing? I have a number of instances where stuff like that has happened and others have as well.

you can kiss all the ass you want but it doesn't make you any less of an ass.

 

[hardup]

well whoopdee frickin do ... many of us also utilize personal hygiene, act like human beings, and go out of our way to treat others well but still get a pile of crap in return.

if you have been so fortunate to have every experience be perfect you have either had limited experiences, have low standards or phenomenal luck.

I showed up for an appointment, showered, shaved, deoderized etc etc etc and had the sp walk into the room and before i could say a word she threw an open condom at me and told me to put that on before anything was going to happen.

is that your idea of me bitchin about nothing? I have a number of instances where stuff like that has happened and others have as well.

you can kiss all the ass you want but it doesn't make you any less of an ass.

Gee sorry Ghost,
Maybe I posted this in the wrong area as you and I seem to be in different provinces and would never have met any of the same girl's. That certainly does sound like a legitimate gripe and I have'nt experienced anything close.

On the other hand I was only stating an opinion, if it would make things better maybe I could kiss your ass and make it all go away, after all you are not an animal you're a human being.

 

[donnyknotts]

Why your MMV.

It is true that SPs are providing a service for cash and as such should definitely make sure that they belong to the "customer is always right" school of business.

That said, it should be obvious that you should treat your provider with the same consideration that you would treat anyone else you encounter when doing business. You wouldn't talk to your mechanic disrespectfully, for example, when describing a problem with your vehicle. Or act in a boorish and disrespectful manner when talking to your waiter. I mean, do you really want the mechanic to "find" something else the matter with your car? Or the waiter to spit in your soup as he brings it out of the kitchen?

It's just common sense. What goes around, comes around. Treat the ladies well and you'll get way more bang for your buck.

That said, there are bound to be some women who are just no damn good, just like in any other business. Don't go back. That's how most businesses fail. That, and word of mouth, does wonders in weeding out the deadwood.
This is where forums such as PERB are such a great public service, 'cause we can't really complain to the BBB, can we?

 

[rollerboy]

I figure that if you treat them like a whore...

um...aren't they *actually* whores?

nothin' wrong with that. some of the coolest bitches i've known have been whores.

"why you call my ho a bitch?"
-- anon pimp

 

[westwoody]

It takes two to tango.

hardup, your points have been made here numerous times, but bear in mind that the male's behaviour is not the only variable. Female personalities come in many flavours.

 

[Lurker 123]

I dont agree that the customer is always right. Some people are dickheaded asswipes and they are NOT always right...people shouldn't have to feel like crap because some moron doesn't know how to treat people. I dont need biz from people like that so I will never compromise my standards or bend over backwards for an unappreciative prick because"he's the customer, he must be right" what a load of crap

I agree no more. If I bend my back for some morons in my business,you won't be surprised those morons will spread the nasty words .Within a short period of time,a whole bunch of other morons will try to walk all over me. I always stand firm and get the respect I deserve. However ,this doesn't mean I don't provide excellent service; instead, I have set up a boundary for my clients to follow!

 

[hardup]

hardup, your points have been made here numerous times, but bear in mind that the male's behaviour is not the only variable. Female personalities come in many flavours.

I never meant for a second that this could not be the case, all I was stating was that my experiences have been good and have been told that some of the guy's need to clean up a bit. I'm not a long time member here so I have not read the post's you mentioned. When I know my way around better I won't duplicate.

 

[BC visitor]

Prep is important!

I think it is important to prep like hard up says everytime. Thats not to say that if you do prep, you won't be disappointed (epecially if you are meeting someone new to you or TOFTT). But I think that if you don't prep you will be disappointed more often.

So my personal opinion, always prep!

 

[LonelyGhost]

prep is important

it really is two different issues ... anyone showing up smelling like old cheese SHOULD be tossed on their rank ass out the door!

but hardup makes it sound like the only reason anyone gets crap treatment out of an sp is because of B.O. when in fact it is the sp's attitude that really stinks!

Most of my experiences with sp's have been good to excellent ... but others have started at the door and gone downhill from there irrespective of how much soap i had used.

I think hardup is running for lapdog of the week and we have enough of those already.

 

[hardup]

What do I get if I win?

OK to start with, my experiences with Sp's have been 99.9% great, I have my favorites and have tried others and have seldom been disappointed. I have also read here time and time how this girl won't do this or wouldn't do that and have kept quiet knowing that my experience was completely different.

Ghost you made my point, I started this thread because it was actually stated to me how a pooner showed up drunk and dirty and still in his coveralls. When things didn't go as per his plan he was pissed off and suddenly a bad review appears. At no time did I state that there was no such thing as a lazy, bitchy, predjudiced or otherwise bad provider.

It was also not my intention to get in a pissing match with you. I tend to refrain from engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponant.

Now if this qualifies me for "lapdog of the week" then please tell me what I've won.

 

[Massagegirl]

Burn! Good comeback Hard up.

I understood what you were aiming for and I applaud you! Anyone who advocates that seeing an SP takes two people to behave, not just one, is more than OK in my book!

LG I feel for ya! I have heard lots of stories of dog poop and dirty diapers on the floor, let alone bad attitude! I think going in with a good attitude as well as hygiene is important and if they are normal women, then you will have a better time! Just not with the freaks, try to weed them out in the first minute and leave!

Your post was rather strongly worded and I realize maybe you didn't mean for it to be, and if you had just stated "some girls have a bad attitude and are nasty before they see how well groomed you are, so this doesn't apply to all women" then it wouldn't have been taken with offense! But to call him a lapdog is uncalled for and makes me wonder about you. Does being nice to women and treating them like real people make one a lapdag? Then I guess I am one too! Since you say you do believe people should get tossed for smelling bad which is partly what HU's post was really about, nevermind what he "makes it sound" like, then what's the problem?

There are just as many flaky customers as there are flaky SP's, just none of them on here, of course! Everyone here is so civilized that it is hard to remember that fact, and it is to those that Hard Up is refering. There are a lot more lurkers than posters!

Peace!

 

[LonelyGhost]

I have never once said that anyone should not be treated with respect nor that anyone should not make a concerted effort to show up groomed to the best of their ability -- and those that still fall short can be run through the shower a few times.

What I take exception to is hardup's attitude that he has never had a bad session and its all due to great grooming -- as i said in my first post, he either has had limited experience, low standards or good luck with finding sp's who treat him like gold every time he steps out the door.

I also mentioned that most of my experiences were good to excellent and many of them were over-the-top and jeez, some of them even invited me back! must have been the after shave!

And yet the most ironic of them all was this sp at an unmentionable agency who showed up late, gave me nothing but 'do this, do that' attitude, smelled like she hadn't seen soap and water since the last month with an X in it and then had the gall to try and convince me to see her on the side and handed me her home phone number ...

I still have her number hardup, want to put your lapdog skills to work on her?

 

[Massagegirl]

Maybe he's just good looking? That is gold in this business...and even the meanest Sp would be happy ...

However LG is right that being well groomed won't get you better service off the bat simply because no smells are evident when one has his clothes on, they cover up any "sour ass smell" until they are off and it's too late to offer a shower. I doubt the attitude would change even then but if she's holding her breath during the 69, then you know what the problem is.

If he was sucking up than I must have confused it with charm and been too blinded by his gorgeous avatar! I confess I've been drooling over it all week! Mmmm... Riddick...yum!

Speaking of which, if his avatar is designed to attract the ladies, isn't it also sucking up???

 

[hardup]

What I take exception to is hardup's attitude that he has never had a bad session and its all due to great grooming -- as i said in my first post, he either has had limited experience, low standards or good luck with finding sp's who treat him like gold every time he steps out the door.


And yet the most ironic of them all was this sp at an unmentionable agency who showed up late, gave me nothing but 'do this, do that' attitude, smelled like she hadn't seen soap and water since the last month with an X in it and then had the gall to try and convince me to see her on the side and handed me her home phone number ...

I still have her number hardup, want to put your lapdog skills to work on her?

Geez LG, sorry to hear you had another bad experience, maybe instead of taking shots at each other we should put our heads together and figure this out.

Perhaps the drive to the trailer park soured her, or maybe it was pouring thru the folds of flesh looking for your goods, whatever it is we''ll fix it.

By the way, I never said it was all due to grooming but I did say that your milage may not vary as much. As for being a lapdog, in the larger picture I guess I'd prefere that to being the mutt left outside on a chain.

Now, I believe that I clarified myself once and if I've been a little self serving , so be it , I'm not going to lie and tell you that my balls smell like my feet from sitting crosslegged and smoking crack all day, Just so we can be pals.

 

[BushPilot]

Geez LG, sorry to hear you had another bad experience, maybe instead of taking shots at each other we should put our heads together and figure this out.

Perhaps the drive out to the reservation soured her, or maybe it was pouring thru the folds of flesh looking for your goods, whatever it is we''ll fix it.

Whether you're right or wrong about the rest of the stuff, the cheap shot at First Nations is out of line. It just goes to show that even those who take a shower and put on deodorant can make ignorant statements.

 

[hardup]

Whether you're right or wrong about the rest of the stuff, the cheap shot at First Nations is out of line.

You're absolutely right, I should know better

 

[stryker]

Hardup,,,after reading this thread and reading your replies,,,,it truly seems that you are what you are... HARD UP for some attention.Don't get me wrong,I'm not trying to rain on your thread,just trying to point out an obsevation.
As far as making a sarcastic racist statement as you did,maybe you should take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself why you did.
Sorry..I'm not very tolerant of ignorance and blowhards.
Just my 2 cents,,,

 

[BOBST]

hardup; I see you edited your post and I deleted my reply!!!

Not to say you are wrong, but in this "hobby" ATTITUDE and SAFE
are probably the two most important qualities!!!!