Water

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This is an interesting video. It's a subfactor to the shit going on in the middle east and in Russia. If Germany is running out of subsurface water then so is Ukraine and Russia.
This should also be a big warning to US and Canadian people and governments about control of water and conservation of water.

But what it really means is that the US governments (Fed and state) have to get off their asses and build water pipelines from the oceans, to replenish surface and subsurface water supplies that they have used over the last 90 years. (water tables going down etc). Build solar farms in arid dessert to supply the energy to desalinate water (evaporation under vacuum or Reverse Osmosis). These are pipelines that all can agree to build. If it spills, its only water...
Build plants for energy and water and fill the reservoirs on the surface and then build pipelines that slowly flood/soak into the land and percolate down to the water table....Fill up reservoir in California from the Pacific first, then lake Powel and Lake Meade. From the Bay of Mexico fill up reservoir in US gulf states, and then that gigantic underground reservoir under Texas
https://www.usgs.gov/mission-areas/water-resources/science/principal-aquifers-united-states

Here in Victoria water conservation did not work too well for the end user pocket. Well it did. It worked so well, people were conserving water, that the price of water had to be increased because people weren't using enough of it, for the CRD to make money....



There needs to be a plan for water pipeline from the ocean (van island, Vancouver/lower mainland) to the interior of BC and onto Alberta (maybe from rivers in the far north-tunnel through mountains to AB). Why? Sure enough if the US mid west and western states fail, due to water, those people will be coming to Canada for water....as that video states people from the middle latitudes will be heading north and south to get water....

Its either that we can support the amount of population that will come and want water, or be prepared to expel people forcibly (ie. kill them). Yes it seems drastic, but look what happened in Syria because of drought...

With the war in Ukraine and Russia, and the failure of food supplies to rest of the world, the remaining parts of the US, Canada, Europe that supply food will be hit hard, which is another reason our food prices have gone up. The video predicts that the food source in California are at risk of failure due to the long drought that has been happening for the last 20 years.

So what are the alternatives in BC to resupply natural reservoirs. In the past the people in the government, relied on RAIN. This is not going to replenish with the amount of population we have. Water conservation will help, but lets plans for stuff, before it happens....

https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/first-global-map-of-hidden-groundwater-vs-canadas-supply/

Seems like Canada has enough fresh water, but alot is at risk, especially under ground sources.
Is most of Canada's fresh water underground?


Groundwater provides drinking water to about one third of all Canadians and up to 80% of the rural population. Some Canadian aquifers (stores of groundwater) are under threat and vulnerable to climate change and human interference.Nov 22, 2021 google

Human interference meaning fracking for oil....

The Canadian Navy has a neat ideal, its called a pusser shower. No its not take a shot of 151 rum and go have a shower..... Wet, soap up, Rinse off, using less than a min of water.

 

[Uncled]

Tow a giant iceberg from Antarctica.

They are free for the taking.

 

[jgg]

There needs to be a plan for water pipeline from the ocean (van island, Vancouver/lower mainland) to the interior of BC and onto Alberta (maybe from rivers in the far north-tunnel through mountains to AB). Why? Sure enough if the US mid west and western states fail, due to water, those people will be coming to Canada for water....as that video states people from the middle latitudes will be heading north and south to get water....

Let's start with oil and gas. A pipeline is a pipeline...

 

[westwoody]

Our so called friends south of us have a plan to take all the water from BC to California.
Check up North American Water and Power Alliance.
Not really sure how it benefits anyone but the Americans but what else is new eh?

 

[angry anderson]

Every way you look we are truly fucked.

 

[badbadboy]

I wouldn’t be too hasty exporting our water to the USA. They have been notorious water wasters for the past century. Not just the immaculate lawns and golf courses but also the crazy crops they grow.

Fun fact; every single almond grown in California takes one gallon of water to maturity. All nuts like pistachios are the same and California is the export king of these crops. Think about it that they probably grow hundreds of millions nuts per year. That’s a hell of a lot of water! Other crazy crops like rice and cotton are thirsty culprits too. Cotton has been grown successfully in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana for hundreds of years. They all have hot wet weather for growing these crops and still California promotes this commodity too.

Growing rice in California was a crazy idea a hundred + years ago and now it is a major crop in California. Ever driven through the Sacramento valley? My recollection is a hot dry climate in mid summer. Not a hot wet climate like in SE Asia.

There have been ideas/proposals to divert water from the Columbia and Hood rivers via pipeline to a reservoir in California. This idea never got any traction but the idea of Alaskan and BC water seems to appeal to them now.

One needs to understand the USA uses everyone’s natural resources before they use their own. Recall that each Free Trade agreement never included Canadian water. Once that is allowed in the agreement it would be a problem that we can’t go back on.

I’d say hell no in a Canadian referendum until they get smarter and use their stocks wisely. First thing they need to do is allow their aquifers replenish to the fullest. This would help the huge forest fires seen every year.

 

[westwoody]

Everyone reading this needs to take it up with their Member of Parliament.
This is no joke.

 

[Bridge]

Our so called friends south of us have a plan to take all the water from BC to California.
Check up North American Water and Power Alliance.
Not really sure how it benefits anyone but the Americans but what else is new eh?

Agreed. Given drought conditions in California and huge California exports of food north we must start to be more self sufficient, protect our agricultural land, and play hard ball with our water.

 

[westwoody]

protect our agricultural land

Most of the agricultural land that grew our food in the Fraser valley and southern Ontario is being paved over for subdivisions.
Growing our own food is going to be impossible very soon.

 

[sybian]

The problem is…..the farmland has become to valuable.
when a farmer thinks of retirement, and applies to the agricultural land commission to remove the farm from the ALR, if they succeeded in doing so ,it tacks on millions to the price tag, securing their retirement funds, and the land owner is motivated by the final price tag, as is the municipality for tax purposes……and remember that’s all they have for a lifetime of work is the investment in the farm they are about to liquidate.
The same individual has most likely been attacked by government for farming practices by being reported by neighbors In the subdivisions surrounding the farm, giving him further motivation to sell off.
it then is built upon, or paved over, and will never return to agriculture.

 

[rlock]

Our so called friends south of us have a plan to take all the water from BC to California.
Check up North American Water and Power Alliance.
Not really sure how it benefits anyone but the Americans but what else is new eh?

They keep bringing this water export idea up every few years, since the Mulroney days at least, and it always ends in Canadians saying "fuck right off !"
Any Canadian politicians who endorse this idea are dead men walking, and deservedly so !

The problem is…..the farmland has become to valuable.
when a farmer thinks of retirement, and applies to the agricultural land commission to remove the farm from the ALR, if they succeeded in doing so ,it tacks on millions to the price tag, securing their retirement funds, and the land owner is motivated by the final price tag, as is the municipality for tax purposes……and remember that’s all they have for a lifetime of work is the investment in the farm they are about to liquidate.
The same individual has most likely been attacked by government for farming practices by being reported by neighbors In the subdivisions surrounding the farm, giving him further motivation to sell off.
it then is built upon, or paved over, and will never return to agriculture.

There's always lots of development pressure against the ALR anywhere it exists in BC. There needs to be a permanent hard "no" to any development which turn our food-growing land into some version of pavement. That's how you kill the speculator /development pressure against farms, against parks & green space, and even against things like urban industrial land. Make it permanent, no way to rezone and change its purpose, ever. That way every speculator will see it can never ever be anything but what it is, and they will move on. (Take a look at a lot of real estate presale ads, and they are already selling condos in areas that have not even been rezoned for that use yet, as if they expect that nothing can stop that from happening (a.k.a. as if they already know the fix is in).

Big Money is always short sighted, and willing to sacrifice long-term survival for short term gratification (for a few). Of course, there are always those willing to sell out, or to build a political career on enabling those types to get what they want.

Pick just about any issue in BC, or Canada, or the world, and this is what it comes down to.

 

[Done1]

They keep bringing this water export idea up every few years...

I thought it was already happening with Dasani...??

 

[rlock]

I thought it was already happening with Dasani...??

Bottled water is another issue, but I mean bulk exports. Tankers, pipelines, diversion canals, etc.

 

[Done1]

Bottled water is another issue, but I mean bulk exports. Tankers, pipelines, diversion canals, etc.

Dude....... How do think they're exporting the Dasani water ?

You think Bob fills 6-7 bottles (extra bottles in case some don't pass Bob's basement, I mean "QA laboratory" testing desk) from a creek in his backyard on the weekend; calls Mike (who's anxiously sitting by the phone every workday morning at 5am) randomly 5 times during the week; Mike (absolutely excited) hops in his Jetta and speeds over to Bob's; Mike collects a single bottle of Dasani from Bob to drive across the border to the US distribution warehouse; and then psyches himself up to do the impossible again the next day ??

Every bottle adds up, you're not wrong...

 

[angry anderson]

I actually had and liked this album when I was young.