Warning: Photography 100

[classycarly]

Thanks all for the support.

I hate what a mess this has become. Let this be a lesson to those who want to both HIRE and FIRE MJ of photography 100.

Tianna... while I expect YOU would like all of this swept under the rug it's not going to happen. You had a LARGE LARGE LARGE part in all of this, the majority of which I have not and will not will not go into.... because I don't reveal people's personal info. **************************************************************************************************************** ****************************************************************************************************************

I do want the revealed personal information removed from said threads Ind I would like them locked and I do not want my info repeated ever again - eh mods?!

I am sorry that happened to you. I have been in and around this business for years, and I can only say to you how unprofessional and libelous it is to give out personal info on someone. There are many reputable businesses out there who wuld love to have you as a client and would treat you and your information in high regard. Or better yet....if you want it done right, do it yourself. It's fairly easy to learn HTML and web design, you just need to spend a few hours a week even and soon, you will know enough to do your own thing from start to finish.

To P-100....... For shame....... very bad form..... It doesn't matter what difficulty you are having with a client, you have no right to reveal anything confidential. Although you may not "legally" have done wrong (which I'm still unsure of), you were morally bankrupt on this particular issue and if a business ,(regardless of what kind), appears to have no morals, ethics or loyalty to their clients, they will eventually disappear. I had heard about you and was thinking of looking at you for services I require, but forget it. I, (and I assume Isabelle ,because she is upset about what you have leaked, and others ), doing business with you in this industry have alot to lose if certain information gets out.)

There is a common saying in business, (any type of business),...... for every satisfied client, they tell 4 people.... for every unsatisfied client, they tell 10. Karma is a powerful thing......Another good rule is don't tell anyone anything you don't want anyone to know, even if you think they are a friend or can be trusted because you just never know. keep your own counsel if at all possible.

 

[Ironhead]

I agree with Veronica...

This whole thread should never have gone public to begin with.
It should and can be dealt with outside between the two persons directly involved.
It should be wrapped up and put to bed by the mods.

I think there is far more to this then we want to know or should know.
It seems to me to be more about jealousy and one up man ship than anything else.

So, be it. It should end now before someone says something they will regret later on.

 

[skcunacog]

sweeeeet........... isabelle and tianna cat fight

 

[athaire]

I think everyone should stop wiggin out.

Best post in the thread.....As always VV...........

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

This whole thread should never have gone public to begin with.
It should and can be dealt with outside between the two persons directly involved.
It should be wrapped up and put to bed by the mods.

I think there is far more to this then we want to know or should know.
It seems to me to be more about jealousy and one up man ship than anything else.

So, be it. It should end now before someone says something they will regret later on.

In all fairness Ironhead, this definately should be in public. All of P100's dealings have had personal information about them leaked by the designer herself onto other client SPs.

Izzy put her trust and faith with P100 only for MJ to drop personal information about her with another SP/client/friend. Not only that but personal information about clients ended up screeching to a halt when Izzy entertained a few clients and things mentioned didn't add up. Sure it's foolish for Izzy to threaten to out Tianna but we aren't entirely sure if a) Izzy really posted that; b) if it was fact the post was autored by Izzy, you got understand just how life is fucked up now that somene had loose lips. Do I think Izzy would actually out Tianna, no because that's not someone she does.

One thing I wholeheartedly feel, is that there is no competition in this business. If two SPs gave identical service, their looks are completely different and vice versa. This issue is not about jealousy and envy, it's about absent discretion and betrayal.

You're right that no one actually knows what was said betwen the two SPs but having had my own run in with P100 as well as seen with own eyes what MJ had done with Tianna's pictures, I'm more inclined to believe that Izzy is not in the wrong. Just exactly how many other people with the hopes of having a site designed by P100 will suffer the same indiscretion fate? One is too many.

 

[chilli]

Sure it's foolish for Izzy to threaten to out Tianna but we aren't entirely sure if a) Izzy really posted that; b) if it was fact the post was autored by Izzy, you got understand just how life is fucked up now that somene had loose lips. Do I think Izzy would actually out Tianna, no because that's not someone she does.

On the other board Tianna actually came to Isabella's defense, when someone posted a mean thread about who would use a bald sp.

Posted by Tianna...

"come on now.. this does not make you look good. Just leave isabella alone. leave the whole subject alone.. and let it get erased.."

This was Isabella's response.

Isabella actually made a seperate thread titled:

TIANNA.... FUCK YOU!!!!

The post went on to say...

"I have had it with you you spineless hypocritical lying BITCH! You were a colossal part of this whole issue, as much as MJ. I KNOW from several sources (we share a lot of clients you know and some have left you for me and some have told me that you talk a lot of trash about a lot of people). You are the very definition of hypocritical and indiscreet. I know you've said shit about me to other people... heard it for a while now. That was why I freaked when you told me that you know about the wig and I told you to keep it between you and I. Yeah right, I have NO DOUBT that you've told people about it.

I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you! Now you want all of this Hush-Hushed so YOU don't look bad. You don't give a SHIT about anyone else other than yourself or your friends. You are indefensibly pathetic and spineless. Grow up and SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

I'm sorry but Isabella has lost it and imo shown herself for what she really is, writing this thread and threatening to "out" Tianna????

I mean who honestly cares if Isabella and Tianna like each other or not?

Their in competition.

For Isabella to bring it to the board imo is just childish and immature.

Isabella has every right to be upset at P100 for talking to Tianna, but to be upset at Tianna for being on the receiving end of gossip???? Isabella you are the one that made it public that you you have shaved your head to support your friend with cancer. (which imo is very admirable).

No one else - not any of your clients, not any other providers, not anyone - you.

I think you have blown this way out of proportion, and need to take a few deep breathes.

 

[athaire]

On the other board Tianna actually came to Isabella's defense, when someone posted a mean thread about who would use a bald sp.

Posted by Tianna...

"come on now.. this does not make you look good. Just leave isabella alone. leave the whole subject alone.. and let it get erased.."

This was Isabella's response.

Isabella actually made a seperate thread titled:

TIANNA.... FUCK YOU!!!!

The post went on to say...

"I have had it with you you spineless hypocritical lying BITCH! You were a colossal part of this whole issue, as much as MJ. I KNOW from several sources (we share a lot of clients you know and some have left you for me and some have told me that you talk a lot of trash about a lot of people). You are the very definition of hypocritical and indiscreet. I know you've said shit about me to other people... heard it for a while now. That was why I freaked when you told me that you know about the wig and I told you to keep it between you and I. Yeah right, I have NO DOUBT that you've told people about it.

I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you! Now you want all of this Hush-Hushed so YOU don't look bad. You don't give a SHIT about anyone else other than yourself or your friends. You are indefensibly pathetic and spineless. Grow up and SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

I'm sorry but Isabella has lost it and imo shown herself for what she really is, writing this thread and threatening to "out" Tianna????

I mean who honestly cares if Isabella and Tianna like each other or not?

Their in competition.

For Isabella to bring it to the board imo is just childish and immature.

Isabella has every right to be upset at P100 for talking to Tianna, but to be upset at Tianna for being on the receiving end of gossip???? Isabella you are the one that made it public that you you have shaved your head to support your friend with cancer. (which imo is very admirable).

No one else - not any of your clients, not any other providers, not anyone - you.

I think you have blown this way out of proportion, and need to take a few deep breathes.

If your going to quote Izzy on this you should also include her response to the negative feedback.........

Relates to our NUMEROUS phone conversations this weekend where I said stay out of it, don't gloss it over and don't defend MJ or I will out you for your role in this. I was TRYING to leave Tianna out of it. But she broke her promises to me when she was try to make herself look good and have it all swept away, no doubt at MJ's request.

Anyways guys, sorry for this. I just LOST IT when I saw what she was saying when she is the cause for all of this and I was trying to keep her out of it to spare her rep.

I've already PMed Steve to have this thread removed.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

"forgot to add the little extra bits
"I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you!''
QUOTED AND taken from the other board by isabella
I did not start this thread nor did I add or contribute before the bits I said today, I was really enjoying my quiet weekend at home !"



Sorry buddy you are wayyyy off base.

And I'm calling you on it.

No person provider or customer should EVER threaten to out someone in this business.

For Isabella to do this - is low really low.

Isabella keep your disputes to yourself, geez poor Tianna.

You know very well what I mean by this - that I will out you for your role in what has happened. YOU ARE THE REASON WHY I FIRED P-100 AND YOU KNOW IT!!!

That is what I meant by "out." Never her personal info. Tianna WAS telling clients about my personal information - the have told me. I was taking the high road by leaving her out of it. But she broke all of her promises to me.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

...Isabella has every right to be upset at P100 for talking to Tianna, but to be upset at Tianna for being on the receiving end of gossip???? Isabella you are the one that made it public that you you have shaved your head to support your friend with cancer. (which imo is very admirable)...

Are you fuckin' kidding me?????

Tianna was the one kept the personal info mill running. Here's another one for you. I was with Tianna that fateful evening when she said that MJ has complete access to her business correspondence, Tianna had mentioned that a SP in town has a reportable illness that could affect the industry. MJ was looking through the "reportable" SPs email and found some pressing emails. MJ then told Tianna about it, Tianna then told a couple of us which we said that that was personal information not worth repeating and can damage the SPs rep if it turned out to be false. The best way to deal with that information would've been to take it up the reported SP themselves. Tianna didn't give a name but it's one of P100 clients. What's my point? It's that Isabelle info isn't an isolated case...and on that evening.

What made matters worse in this ordeal is that Tianna then started to defend P100 as well as herself instead of owning up to the booboo that set Isabelle off. Isabelle is not responsible. Things were cool between the two of them before that evening. Isabelle even recommended Tianna on several occasions when she (Isabelle) wasn't available.

 

[owz]

My final 2 cents on this matter.

Yes, I am fond of Izzy. Quality SP who obviously loves her job.
Don't know enough of her to be head over heels in love with
her... like some of ya obviously are. Just enough to know that
she is genuine and has a good heart. Wears her emotions on her
sleeves sometimes, but I can live with that (especially since I
agree with most of her rants). BUT if she didn't issue that
apology (which Athaire posted from the other board), it would have
changed my opinion of her.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indy Isabelle
Relates to our NUMEROUS phone conversations this weekend where I said stay out of it, don't gloss it over and don't defend MJ or I will out you for your role in this. I was TRYING to leave Tianna out of it. But she broke her promises to me when she was try to make herself look good and have it all swept away, no doubt at MJ's request.Anyways guys, sorry for this. I just LOST IT when I saw what she was saying when she is the cause for all of this and I was trying to keep her out of it to spare her rep.


The same is true if Tiana had come clean right off the
bat, I would have had a different opinion about her...

SIGH....

If the truth must come out, it was during my session early last
week that Tiana mentioned all the personal information about Izzy
to me. Never expecting such venom (her online personality
was what attracted me to her), I was quite taken back by such
cattyness (sic). And if I had any clue that Tiana had a hidden axe
to grind with Izzy.... well I would have skipped the whole session.
That was one of the reasons I was not able to finish my session
with her. Have enough drama in my own life and don't need it from SPs...

http://*************/forum/showthread.php?t=32545

It is also the reason why I have decided to restrict my pooning
to the 2 special ladies I had mentioned (who both are not
registered members of any escort forums... that I know of anyways ).

Been tossing and turning since.... should I pass the info to Izzy?
Thought the better of it as I know things will get ugly quickly...
But since the shit has already literally hit the fan, I thought that
I would add my 2 cents to possibly clarify my stance on Tianna's
participation in this whole thing. To let lose information while
drunk is inexcusable and just plain stupid. To let lose information
to a 1st time client is just plain vindictive and sad.
That is also why I think I am harsher on Tiana about her
involvement in this whole affair... That is also why
I included the following comments in a few of my posts yesterday.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OZ
Tianna. From our session this week, you had come across as a street smart & intelligent woman. Not some easily manipulated airhead. Wonder if the truth lies somewhere between...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by OZ
Tiana. Seriously, girl. You really need to reassess your allegiance to this so called "friend" of yours. It is misplaced. Allowing P100 access to your terf password is at best naive. Truth be told, your lapse in judgment has already cost you any of my future business. Period. In this industry where discretion is vital, how can I trust that you are going to be able to keep my private information secure? Especially if you are not the only one with access to it... If P100 has used your account to post.... what other information has she gotten a hold of? I recommended to Steve with a request to put a temporary posting ban on your account until this mess has been sorted out. It is up to him to determine if that is the course of action he is willing to pursue. At least until you can proof to him that your account will no longer be "compromised". Be forewarned. Your actions from herein will have a direct impact on how the pooning community views you as a SP. Can they trust you not to compromise them? Just between you and I, the things that you had mentioned during our 1 and only session together are beginning to make sense to me. Finally... Thankfully, like the untrusting bastard that I am, I had taken the precaution of making sure that both my email address and telephone are disposable if they should be compromised.

Izzy. Sorry for keeping the info away from you. It was
with the best intent (plus I really don't want to get
involved in this...). I hope that you can understand where
I am coming from.

Tiana. The longer you wait to come clean, the more respect you
lose from your clients (past & future) and your peers. All you need
is another pooner coming here and confirming what I have said.
The clock is ticking, do the right thing before it is too late.....
Remember that we are judged not on the color of our skin, or
the $ in our bank account, but on the courage to stand up
and admit to our blunders. That is more telling to me about your
character, than anything you or anyone else can say.

Chilli. Don't know what your story is. Strange how quickly you
have come in defense of Tiana. Are you a client or
something else... Personally I don't have a beef with you, except
for the blind faith that you are exhibiting in protection this woman.
If you are a client, then might I suggest that you really need to
take stock of the situation and help her realize the severity of
the situation. You obviously care for her and that says to me that
she can't be all that bad. If you are not a client... well, then
that might explain why you have subjectively taken bits and
pieces of posts and massaged them to prove your innocence or
to make your point...

 

[ihatemyskirt]

Too bad. I like everything I have seem from P100. Now I look at it differently and won't even pursue any business with them.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

So when's the next get-together, girls?
Popcorn's on me! And I'll bring the Absynthe!






PS: I think it's time to drop the whole issue maybe?

 

[athaire]

So when's the next get-together, girls?
Popcorn's on me! And I'll bring the Absynthe!






PS: I think it's time to drop the whole issue maybe?

Ummmmm........in the vein of dropping this issue.......I never had a chance to try Absynthe when I was drinking, is it as good as I had heard? To be a fly on the wall at the next girl party.......

 

[TotallyTouchin]

So.....

I was feeling bad for Tianna here and then I get 3 viruses sent to my computer with 3 seperate emails from info@truetianna.com.

Either it was Tianna or someone who has access to her email.

CLM has all three copies and I had a computer tech look at it and they are sent from this address as clm can assert.

Not cool whoever is doing this.

If Tianna is reading this, I can send you a copy of a non-infected one. It came straight from your email. Care to explain???

I never had a problem with you so I am thinking your web person may have an issue. If this is the case, I would distance myself from this person/ ask she not involve me in her beefs OR move on. These things are petty and piss people off.

 

[totravel]

Tianna is travelling now, I doubt she (personally) has anything to do with it.
The webmaster is another story, though.
Remember how she decided to punish Tianna for a spat by posting unflattering pics on her own site?

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Tianna is travelling now, I doubt she (personally) has anything to do with it.
The webmaster is another story, though.
Remember how she decided to punish Tianna for a spat by posting unflattering pics on her own site?

Now, that makes sense.
MJ is probably punishing T3 and me for exposing her web of lies and destruction.

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Totally!

Tianna is travelling now, I doubt she (personally) has anything to do with it.
The webmaster is another story, though.

I am always on the side of ladies in this buisness and I know that Tianna would not be silly enough to sit behind her computer and openly send me three...THREE viruses on purpose for me to see.

The emails were sent by a very savy computer person who expected for them to self destruct within 30 seconds as stated in the emails.

I was to open the virus attachment and it was to self destruct. What they did not count on was that I have some serious backups to my email accounts that do not allow for this type of virus to come through.

I would SERIOUSLY advise Tianna to distance herself SOONER rather than later from whomever has access to info@truetianna.com.

I would also advise other ladies to be watchful of what eails they open as not as many ladies have the same backups I have.

Photography 100....SHAME ON YOU if you did this. From calling Izzie "bald" to sending me viruses...you COULD NOT BE more unprofessional and are proving yourself as such.

I feel bad that Tianna's name is being dragged into this but such is the cost of doing buisness with unscrupulous people....there is NO denying the emails that were sent.

COMPLETELY unprofessional and just plain down right stupid.

P100 you REALLY picked the wrong person to send this to. It was a nice try however.

 

[Robertdice]

P100 you REALLY picked the wrong person to send this to. It was a nice try however.

Is that another threat like the hatred filled gnarl you made on the other site? You know where you claimed to have connections?

 

[TotallyTouchin]

You're funny

Is that another threat like the hatred filled gnarl you made on the other site? You know where you claimed to have connections?

Threat???

No. Wrong person to send it to??? YEAH!

My computer is protected so that stuff isn't going to work with me. Period. Glad you joined just to write this statement.

 

[tianna]

she did not even know of this until I told her about it

I did not even know until some one called me and informed me of the boards . I was tanning on the beach.. the last email I sent out was to the own of www.downtownvancouver.com thats it so find out who is doing it because it was not me or her.. I am sorry to hear of your problems... but please leave me out of it. Im going back to relaxing on the beach now