VOTE NO to Tran$Link tax

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canuck33660

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Marked my "NO" ... sealed envelope .... signed envelope sealed second envelope and sealed third envelope and finally out to post box.

I encourage everyone to deliver the "NO" vote now.

A big "NO" will ensure the government hears us when we tell them to go fuck off with raising taxes to fund more transit.

How about being more effective with the vast taxes that you already collect.
 
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1nitestan said:
Keep in mind that funding for transportation infrastructure in the GVRD comes in three parts:

1) federal money
2) provincial money - which is why the Govt' announced it's major projects this past week including some GVRD items
3) GVRD money <- this is the portion you're voting for
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All 3 sources come from the same place, the taxpayer (read you and me)
 
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bcneil said:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...um-8-per-cent-of-ballots-already-in-1.3025860

Anyone see this? I think my ballot came 3 weeks ago. So far only 8% voted?????
Its not even like an election where you have to drive over and stand inline.
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The news covered this a few days ago. Typical society that now surrounds us. A society that just doesn't care anymore or cant be bothered. Either way, same thing. People like to bitch and complain about real issues until the cows come home but when it comes down to crunch time, they vanish. Like anything else, if this goes through with very minimal votes, society has themselves to blame. But then again, maybe that is what the government is banking on. They already know the general society can't be bothered :rolleyes: Such as election vote turnouts.

Offer them free drinks and fatty unhealthy foods.....then they'll come running :rolleyes:
 
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luv 2 lick pussy said:
The news covered this a few days ago. Typical society that now surrounds us. A society that just doesn't care anymore or cant be bothered. Either way, same thing. People like to bitch and complain about real issues until the cows come home but when it comes down to crunch time, they vanish. Like anything else, if this goes through with very minimal votes, society has themselves to blame. But then again, maybe that is what the government is banking on. They already know the general society can't be bothered :rolleyes: Such as election vote turnouts.

Offer them free drinks and fatty unhealthy foods.....then they'll come running :rolleyes:
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Why I have increasing scepticism with democracy... as do the elite seemingly, who are quietly stripping away the democratic rights the people have.
People don't know what is ultimately best for them, including voting YES for the funding for improvements to the transit and transportation infrastructure.
I would have thought this was a fairer way to do it, but guess those voting no prefer the road user fees or some other more narrowly focused funding mechanism instead.
We are heading back to a period of feudalism, with multinational corporates holding the power (look at TPP as an example).
 
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booblover

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I don't think that is the case hornygandalf. The people are sick of the shit that Translink does and how they waste our already overflowing tax dollars. Adding more money to the pig trough for these sows to gorge on isn't going to give us a good return on those funds. They will vote themselves a rate hike next year for getting the tax approved and we will see the same crap that they have already exposed us to for the last so many years they have been in control.
 
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Mail in your ballots people. It would be really sad that despite the majority saying NO, the 8% end up being all YES voters.
 
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fsmebb said:
under a provincial Conservative government.
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Not any time soon. If they are anything like their federal counterparts then fuck no...
 
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Another thing, I reviewed my latest hydro statement and noticed a 4% deduction U.T A ( transit levy ). That said....I'm already donating through that. That's enough for me. Besides, they ( the government ) will eventually resort to another scheme down the road to inevitably screw us again.

PS....I wonder how many folks are aware of a transit levy taken off from their hydro bills? Most likely next to none.
 
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Don't forget the 17 cents/litre gas tax. And an average of over $250/year per residence in property taxes.
 
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hornygandalf

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Keep in mind we already have a provincial conservative government. They are simply masquerading under the Liberal label (not that I'm a fan of them either).
There are more links between Federal Conservatives and the BC Liberals than most of the public are aware of.
 
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Amerix

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booblover said:
I believe it is way higher then 17% now for the gas tax
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It's 17 cents just for the Translink surcharge in the lower mainland.

There's also 10 cents federal, 15.17 cents provincial (all of which is supposed to pay for the roads that Translink never builds), and an extra 6.27 cents in carbon tax.

Plus 5% GST, naturally.

Yeah, I'm really going to vote yes to another tax ... not.
 
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booblover

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there is a site you can go to that pops up when viewing stuff on Youtube. The guy talks about all of Translink's taxes and states that the gas tax started at 4% (I believe) but is now up to 22%. I will see if i can find the link
 
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agentwhite said:
here's a solution: buy a car.
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Huh? How is that a solution? Translink is also responsible for the roads and transport infrastructure. Starving them of the taxes to make improvements also means lack of resources to improve the road network. We have among the worst traffic congestion in North America now, and you suggest that we should make it worse rather than providing a viable alternative to driving a car. This needs more explanation.

Voting down the current tax proposal will only lead to increased taxes in other areas... more on the gas taxes, road user fees, additions to our power bills and so on. This seems to be the fairest way to spread the cost. Voting it down won't necessarily lead to a change in the governance of Translink (which seems to be the problem most opponents seem to have) in what has been shown to be one of the most efficiently run public transit systems in North America.
The oil lobby must love you. A good public transport system is not in their interests.
 
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