not a chance he signs anything but a one way if he signs anything at all or he heads back to the K again now that it’s settled IMO
Virtanen not guilty
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Signing a one way doesn't guarantee staying up in the bigs,just means he has to clear waivers,I'm I'm betting he's not getting a contract with a no movement clause. Heading back to the K isn't really an option with the war going on,I think that's why he left there?
hahah. as a guy who knows a few nhl players, they mostly stay clear of escorts because these escorts cant keep their mouths shut. discretion and privacy is not respected by alot of SPs in vancouver.
Nah....you actually have to be able to play like a pro to get an nhl paycheck...this was the perfect excuse for the canucks to cut ties with this failure on the ice...
It's not uncommon for women who are sexually assaulted to not report the crime right away for a myriad of reasons -- shame, lack of faith in law enforcement, unwillingness to relive the trauma in court -- and sometimes they even engage with their assaulter after the fact, again, for many complex reasons that don't excuse the crime. Trauma can make people do things that we can't always understand.
If we don't protect the names of accusers, then we are basically giving men carte blanche to rape at will. Think about whistleblowers and why we give them so many protections, including anonymity, under the law.
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And all these reasons are irrational. It may be common, but that doesn't make it right. Train your daughters to have agency and look out for themselves, and these reasons all disappear.
You need a clear "NO" or clear "STOP" before trouble starts; if you don't want to have sex, say so clearly. Once you have said so, the situation is clear. If you have done so, and they stop, great. That is what should happen.
However, if the other person keeps going like what you just said doesn't matter, then they are forcing you, they are raping you. Escape, make noise, fight like hell, and report it as soon as you're physically able to. When you report it, tell the entire truth, holding nothing back. At least that way, you'll know within yourself you did the right thing, even if it goes nowhere after that - even if the cops are mostly a bunch of sneering assholes, even if the perpetrator is some sort of big shot, even if your "friends" are more likely to turn against you, even if your case gathers dust for 20 years. At least there will be some record from right away of what was done to you. It also helps you survive the trauma - if the guy knew clearly you did not want what he did to you, then it is all on him for having done it, not you for having failed to stop it.
Every girl growing up should be taught this. Maybe it is not much more than an ideal, but the importance of that message should be clearly sent, not downplayed in favour of some false narrative which tells them that all their behavioral idiosyncrasies will later on be overlooked, in either a court of law or the court of public option. It won't be. It can't be, because such a position is indistinguishable from someone who had consensual hook-up but comes to regret it and years later decides to villainize the guy rather than own up to having fucked the guy willingly.
Saying the other person used coercion, force, or threat of force / retaliation, when they did not, is just straight-up dishonesty, even if one of the people you now lie to is yourself. There's no excuse for it. And every false complaint of rape undermines every true one.
That's why the law has to work a certain way, why it must be skeptical and seek facts in some cold-blooded way. It fails when it gets caught up in dogma or drama, and believes either everything or nothing, then judges based on assumptions. As always the problem with the legal system (and life generally) is how do we tell the difference between honest people and liars? If that's all there ever was, legal proceedings would just be popularity contests (and accomplished liars always win those). No, what is needed for justice - always - is evidence. Evidence is not just physical, it is also the record of one's conduct which points to credibility. Teach your kids that too. The world is unjust and dishonest, but you shouldn't be.
Once again, we arrive back at: "NO" means no, "STOP" means stop, "unconscious" means leave her the fuck alone because she can't consent - but saying nothing can only be interpreted as nothing. Ambiguity does harm, and can't ever provide justice. Clarity and honesty are the only true path to it.
That's all well and good and a noble goal, but many times women will do nothing and say nothing during an assault out of fear for their lives or further physical harm. These cases are rarely as cut and dry as you make them out to be.
Maybe the better idea is to teach our sons not to be rapists.
Maybe the better idea is to teach our sons not to be rapists.
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I get it, you're trying very hard to be an ally to women. And in trying so hard to be that, you are actually repeating traditional gender stereotypes. Your belief that "women will do nothing and say nothing during an assault" is NOT something limited to women. Some people freeze (the deer caught in the headlights scenario) in response to stress and some experience the fight or flight response - again, that is something that happens to ALL PEOPLE to some degree (both men and women). And if you don't believe that to be true - there are plenty of males that have been victims of sexual abuse/exploitation - and alot of them don't come forward for all the same reasons women don't come forward. Stop trying to prove your feminist bona fides - you're failing at it miserably. In other words, reinforcing gender stereotypes and calling all boys potential rapists DOES NOT make you a feminist. I will say it makes you woke af - and that is not a good thing to be (in my opinion).
You've got me sussed, appleomac. BTW, I was simply responding to rloc's comments about how we should teach our daughters how not to be raped. I am very well aware trauma happens to everyone, thanks.
Stay woke!
Stay woke!
Interesting that an entire jury who was actually in the court room, heard the evidence live, saw those involved, decided he wasn't guilty.
Yet some people who weren't in the court room, still think he is guilty, and the people on the jury are all idiots, especially when the system is already lopsided to find the guy in cases like this guilty, more than not.
Yet some people who weren't in the court room, still think he is guilty, and the people on the jury are all idiots, especially when the system is already lopsided to find the guy in cases like this guilty, more than not.
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He out-weighed her 2:1. He out-powered her maybe 10:1. When the deed was done he was passed out on the bed. She was sobbing in the bathroom. That's not how my sexual encounters usually end.
Yet, somehow, in a way unknown to me, justice was mysteriously served. The real trial is the civil suit. Mr. Virtanen is a wealthy man and the young lady (read her lawyers) will get a nice chunk of it. These cases, as I understand it, are almost always settled quietly and with an NDA. We'll never hear of it.
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Not Virtenan but related.
What a cluster fuck Sport Canada and Hockey Canada have become. Add in the Whitecaps and National Soccer teams and the sex abuse cases, rapes, coverups etc are just a disgusting litany of the abuse of power.
Hockey Canada finally admitted over $8M has been paid out to keep people silent.
How much more?
What a cluster fuck Sport Canada and Hockey Canada have become. Add in the Whitecaps and National Soccer teams and the sex abuse cases, rapes, coverups etc are just a disgusting litany of the abuse of power.
Hockey Canada finally admitted over $8M has been paid out to keep people silent.
How much more?
I think this is an important point mr.dick is making here and no doubt part of the modern training new NHL players get from their organizations.
It's not either one or the other.
Part of raising any child is teaching all kids (so they can become self-sufficient adults) that some people they'll meet in life are just scumbags, who will go after what they want no matter who they have to hurt to get it.
When (not if) your progeny encounter those kind of people, they better be ready to deal with it.
Learn to respect themselves, to draw firm lines that others shouldn't cross, and when someone does, especially when they clearly mean to harm you, fight back so hard that they never fuck with you again. This is not some far-off "noble goal". It is about self-preservation in the here and now.
Maybe being prepared in advance doesn't guarantee you won't be victimized anyways, but not being prepared absolutely guarantees it.
Society teaches people plenty of deceitful, ignorant, contradictory, prejudicial, irrational, self-defeating things. Diagnose it however you want, but people shouldn't keep passively waiting for society to get better on its own, or for sociopaths to suddenly grow a conscience and feel shame for hurting people. News flash: It won't, and they don't.
Well exactly.
Only 2 people were in that room to experience whatever happened.
Only one of them is telling the truth about it.
The other one is a scumbag.
But which one?
A jury took a look at the case, and made their choice. Nobody on the outside can know for sure if they were right or wrong.
You got that right long ago I used to see an escort in Burnaby who bragged about the Canuck players she partied with, at the time I thought it was pretty cool I was doing one of the NHL’s faves.
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