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[sevenofnine]

my orginal thread seemed to get lost in what i wanted to say,
so i will try this again.

there is a big difference in ladies who seem to look at this as simply dollars for a service,
a shot on goal,
greek, facial, whatever,
they take your money fine,
you get your shot, your greek your facial,
whatever,

as opposed to a lady who looks at it, as
he pays his money, an hour two hours whatever,

im here to entertain him, please him, as opposed to paying for a shot on goal, a facial.

what ever i can do for him, in that hour, that two hours, as long as im comfortable with it, its all good,

i like ladies who are in that mindset,
he hasn't just paid for a shot on goal or a facial,
he has paid for my company for the next two hours,
and im going to do my best to make him happy,


sure if its a bargain girl offering a special or, you booked a minimum fifteen mintues or half an hour, or so,
give the guy his shot on goal his facial and get rid of him

but i book as many hours as i can, i don't usually book bargain girls,
to me its just not about a shot on goal. or greek or a facial
none of which i have had by the way,
its about keeping me company and entertaing me for the two hours or whatever,
i drop a lot of money sometimes,
like i said im older,
i get one shot, and i take it,
and i have never did anything really kinky, or disrespectful,
of disgusting,
im a pretty basic simple guy,
and i get annoyed with ladies, who when i book,
several hours,
who just look at this as one shot on goal and he is done,
or he is done because he cann't do two shots on goal,
either way i get annoyed,

if i felt that way i would book fifteen minutes
stand in her hallway pull down my pants and get it done,


but i book several hours as many as i can afford,
and ladies who look at this as, simply a facial or a shot on goal or greek,
just kind of bother me,
i am a male complex and confused, who wants so much more from a lady,
then a shot on goal,
or to wizz all over her face, or ram it up her butt.

i want her company her attention, and her desire to show me a good time,

 

[FortunateOne]

I think there are sps who "specialize" in providing that sort of social time, are comfortable with it, and encourage longer appts. Then there are some who mainly do shorter appts, and arranging with them for longer times can take them outside of their comfort zone. They may not feel creative enough, or socialable enough to entertain you (no matter how undemanding you are) for that length of time. If they don't offer it, or advertise it, then I suggest that you stay away from trying to book longer times with them. If you enjoy her company, and hour appts seem to be her maximum, then enjoy your hour.

There are a number of sps who (prior to the economy hoopla) would always advertise that they had 2 hour minimums for first appts, or 2 hour minimums all the time. These are the sps/escorts that you want to see, IMO. They include Katlyn, Ms.Bijou, Indy Isabelle, Holly Taylor, and many others.

 

[rossedm34]

Bottom line: Your mistaking a business relationship with a personal one.

that's not to say that the SPs don't care about you emotionally, I'm sure they do. It means that they care about your well being, but ultimately, it is business.

It can be tricky since it's an intimate business (and the social aspect is 1000 times more intimate then anything sexual) and I think that's were numerous people on this board (a generalization I know, but just look at the good bye threads...) seem to be getting mixed up. I don't doubt that some SPs don't get mixed up either, since it is intimate.

I've had very personal conversations with the ladies I've been with ( I stick to 3 basically, all for the reasons of I feel a connection and always have a great yet singular time), and only they know my very private things. That said, as much as I'd love to sit down with them over drinks and learn more about them (curious fellow I am!), I know it's business and up to them to make that move outside of the business situation.

I think some here would keep there heads in better shape if they remember, it's a business. A great business, and a valuable business, but still a business.

 

[mimi]

sevenofnine you are correct.

When you are booking time you deserve to be treated well during the entire course of the booking. There should not be any premature withdrawal on the part of the sp because a specific event has happened. This was the reason websites like Perb were set up. The nineties became an era of cheap rushed service.

Many very good clients of the eighties had all but disappeared (I am referring to the out of town, business class, hotel service in downtown Vancouver and Richmond) due to the barrage of big greedy agencies that opened and sent out less than stellar sp's.

However, this has largely been rectified by the menu of very lovely Indy girls, who, it would seem by the reviews, work very hard to give premium service!

I wonder why, with such a beautiful selection of women, and with so many good reviews, you are not receiving the service you seek?

 

[sevenofnine]

let me put this another way,
if a girl takes my money for two or three hours, or longer,
she should be prepared to entertain me for two hours or longer,

some girls, i think, take payment for two hours or more, then treat you like you just bought a fifteen minute blow job,
they want to sit and hold hands and talk about the weather for, two hours fortyfive mintues, then give you fifteen mins to have your shot on goal
that just annoys me,

if a girl only wants to actually have sex or perform for fifteen mins, she shouldn't book three hour dates. or even two hour dates or one hour date even, for that matter,
if a girl books for two hours she should be prepared to go for two hours.
a perfect example the energizer bunny that i see now.
i have booked for two hours, and she goes non stop for almost the entire time,
which is very rare i think,

how many ladies out there, book two hours and give that kind of service, non stop kissing licking oral, hj, and sex for two hours.
and seriously she does,
she asked me what i kindof like,
and i told her oral with some nice hands,
and she went for it,
she never rested more then thirty seconds to a minite and she was either going down on me, or giving me a hj, moving around shifting positions, allowing me to perform oral or daty on her, as i wanted,
that kind of service is rare,
and i never asked her or told her, she did it all on her, own,
and that is what ever guy pretty much says about her, best service anywhere,
except for another lady in our city, never met her, butg guys rave, about her, loyal as hell, and she kinds of brags about it on her web site, non stop fun, and no guy ever denied it,
funny the odd guy meets her and tries to write a bad reveiw of her, just a matter or style and taste and looks,
but even her bad reviews are better then most girls good reveiws.

then you meet a girl who wants to talk for one hour and forty five of your two hour date, or two and forty five of your three hour date,

all im saying if a girl takes your money for three hours she should be prepared to go for three hours. if she doesn't want to, she should limit her self to shorter dates an hour or less.
and im not saying im this great stud or anything,
but if im booking three hours, maybe, just maybe
its because, i want some time for some nice long oral or daty, or a nice slow hand job, or a strip tease, whatever, its not because i want to talk about the weather,
and im not saying every girl has to be the energizer bunny either,
but it is what it is come on,
im not dropping five or four or seven hundred dollars on your table to talk about the weather.
and i had a lady, for two years, we had long sessions,
she wasn't the energizer bunny,
but she could keep me happy, she could keep me very happy,
in her own way in her own time, it was great,
we just had a falling out,
i don't want to go into details, nothing major more like two spoiled kids then anything,
its just why is there such a difference between the enegizer bunny and some girl who thinks she can just talk for half your session or more,
and resists you trying to do anything,

 

[sonoman]

she could keep me very happy,
in her own way in her own time, it was great,
we just had a falling out,

i don't want to go into details

... but clearly you do, or you wouldn't feel a need to unload. Nothing wrong with that though. Sounds like you two became comfortable together like old lovers. Now you're just getting getting over the break-up and getting used to 'dating' other girls, none of which are like your ex.

 

[sevenofnine]

i wonder is there a couples counselling,

for an sp and her client.


i write lots and writing helps me work things out in my mind,
and i think i got it fiqured out what happened, pretty simple and childish actually, nothing major, pride hurt more then anything, or a misunderstanding,

i agree there are many lovely sp;s out there,
and yes i would have to agree with your comments as well,
there are ladies i have seen if i would repeat with them,
my session would be short. just the nature of there service and there personality.
what they bring to the table.

other sp;s i would book as long as my wallet alows for at the time,
which is kind of the way i like to go.

and your right about that too, some ladies are geared for more non stop action, i see what you mean, and some ladies its more of a slower time,

both ladies i would book with actually, non stop action is actually pretty great, i won't deny it,
but if the lady can stimulate sensually and intellectually, with sights and anticpation, and some holding cuddling fondling, and like i said, anticpation of things to come, that works for me to.

but if she cann't do either, or won;t
well then i have a problem,

interesting comments thank you ladies,

you know i only have a couple of regrets about me and this hobby,

one is i don't have the time and the resources to actually meet all the ladies i have emailed with or pm;d or they simply posted a lot of nice intelligent feedback,
either socially for a cup of tims, or professionally,
sometimes you get to talking to a lady, in emails, you kind of become friends or touch each other, in a way,
and if you know a lady like that its hard to cross that line, and pay her.
i don't really know why,
but i know several ladies like that, we kindof reached out to each other.

the second thing i regret, is breaking it off with my long time sp,
over something pretty silly and stupid,

its hard to become really close to some one on the other side of this hobby,
so many prejudices and attached meanings and stigmatisms's and jealously

normal relationships are some times strained, but you add all that goes on, in this hobby, out there, plus all the hidden things that go on in the recesses of our subconscience.

you need alot of trust and confidence, in yourself in each other, to become close to some one on the other side of this,

funny alot of guys are wondering why the fuck would you want to,

because were all human beings and we care and wonder about each other,
whether im paying her or not.
im always going to care, i care worry and wonder about every lady i see,

some you just get alittle closer with thats all, and it doesn't bother me, or scare me, it is what it is,