Vancouver Wins Award!!!!
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I always find it interesting to try to figure out how these things are measured as it would seem that although our traffic sucks there are cities far worse. In the article it explains that Tom Tom calculates congestion by comparing avg commute times during non congested vs congested times. How is that going to tell you the most congested? If a sit has traffic stopped dead all the time the difference is going to be zero and it wouldn't classify as congested by Tom Tom? silliness.... BTW, we've all seen the traffic on Georgia a heck of a lot worse than that shown in the picture. You'd think they could have found a better one to prove the "point"....
Our city planners (when it comes to traffic) are rediculous. They don't get the concept of traffic flow. Instead they think it is important for any idiot to turn left or right any time they friggin want to, so we have all these lights that dumb down a 4-6 lane intersection to a 2-lane turner's paradise. Meanwhile the cars back up and miss 2-3 lights. Downtown is better, at least they have one way streets and no left turns. They finally did likewise along Granville corridor, but it took 4-ever to figure this out. Oh ya, and the bus/HOV curb lanes didn't work. Gone, finally. Thankyou! Once the dedicated full-width bike lanes are killed after someone realizes they are mostly empty while traffic backs up, the city will be better off. So here's a recipe for flow:
1. If it doesn't have a dedicated turn lane, it's no-left-turns 7am-9am, 3pm-6pm. Gonna have to move that to 7pm soon
2. Fuck the advance greens during rush hour. Kill 'em. Plan your fucking routes for right turns people. 3 rights is better than 1 left at a major intersection. You can't turn left off Burrard or Georgia very often for a good reason--it keeps congestion down, yet people still manage to get where they are going. Encourage us to think!
3. Actually enforce that rule that slower traffic needs to keep right. Ticket the doddlers in the left lane. Assholes. I know, I speed by them in the right lane and act like an ass too, but if they stayed where they belong (behind the bus), I wouldn't have to. Fucking Volvo drivers, and a few Range Rovers where the driver can't quite see over the dash board. Get the fuck over!
4. Define some dedicated flow corridors. Not highways, but sensible streets we need to protect. Look at the fiasco of Marine Drive in North Van. Fuck I'd rather have hot pointy needles poked in my eyes than have to drive from Capilano to Iron Workers along Marine Drive. Only alternative is to jump all the way up to Hwy 1, but we shouldn't have to. Oh, by the way, traffic lights stop traffic, they don't facilitate flow. Duh. Stop killing the few flow routes we still have with ped lights and minor street stop lights. We need to declare streets that move as an endangered species and get federal grant to study them to death and stiffle more lights. Oh the peds? The smart ones won't have a problem. Darwin will take care of the dumb ones.
5. You time the lights for 50Km/hr, we'll do 100 to try and make the next one. You time them for 60, we'll do 65. Reasonably. But 50Km? Lifes too short. Good luck with that conservative too goodie-goodie bullshit policy
6. Oh, and here's my best idea yet: Get rid of the stupid speed bumps in 'traffic calmed areas'. Put in hookers instead. Naturally slows traffic
Punt.
1. If it doesn't have a dedicated turn lane, it's no-left-turns 7am-9am, 3pm-6pm. Gonna have to move that to 7pm soon
2. Fuck the advance greens during rush hour. Kill 'em. Plan your fucking routes for right turns people. 3 rights is better than 1 left at a major intersection. You can't turn left off Burrard or Georgia very often for a good reason--it keeps congestion down, yet people still manage to get where they are going. Encourage us to think!
3. Actually enforce that rule that slower traffic needs to keep right. Ticket the doddlers in the left lane. Assholes. I know, I speed by them in the right lane and act like an ass too, but if they stayed where they belong (behind the bus), I wouldn't have to. Fucking Volvo drivers, and a few Range Rovers where the driver can't quite see over the dash board. Get the fuck over!
4. Define some dedicated flow corridors. Not highways, but sensible streets we need to protect. Look at the fiasco of Marine Drive in North Van. Fuck I'd rather have hot pointy needles poked in my eyes than have to drive from Capilano to Iron Workers along Marine Drive. Only alternative is to jump all the way up to Hwy 1, but we shouldn't have to. Oh, by the way, traffic lights stop traffic, they don't facilitate flow. Duh. Stop killing the few flow routes we still have with ped lights and minor street stop lights. We need to declare streets that move as an endangered species and get federal grant to study them to death and stiffle more lights. Oh the peds? The smart ones won't have a problem. Darwin will take care of the dumb ones.
5. You time the lights for 50Km/hr, we'll do 100 to try and make the next one. You time them for 60, we'll do 65. Reasonably. But 50Km? Lifes too short. Good luck with that conservative too goodie-goodie bullshit policy
6. Oh, and here's my best idea yet: Get rid of the stupid speed bumps in 'traffic calmed areas'. Put in hookers instead. Naturally slows traffic
Punt.
I have spent lots of time on the LA freeways. Vancouver has a serious problem... believe it.
Let's make more bike paths and green spaces.
The local governments have zero idea what a major port city requires. They want us to use transit that doesn't service all areas or punish people for having no choice but live in the valley even though they work in town. Now they want to tear down the viaducts so fewer cars will be downtown? No. It means the same cars will have fewer ways to get around.
I always laugh when they make a big deal on the news when the city of Vancouver councillor bike to work. The ones they show live in the city. It's not a big deal but it's look at me being green. I'm getting sick of green being the blanket to make everything stupid,OK.
But tolls and usage fees will soon be the norm so we can make more parks and bike lanes.
The local governments have zero idea what a major port city requires. They want us to use transit that doesn't service all areas or punish people for having no choice but live in the valley even though they work in town. Now they want to tear down the viaducts so fewer cars will be downtown? No. It means the same cars will have fewer ways to get around.
I always laugh when they make a big deal on the news when the city of Vancouver councillor bike to work. The ones they show live in the city. It's not a big deal but it's look at me being green. I'm getting sick of green being the blanket to make everything stupid,OK.
But tolls and usage fees will soon be the norm so we can make more parks and bike lanes.
And you can be certain Mayor Robertson will be using this as another excuse to create more bike lanes to "reduce" traffic congestion.
The sad truth....not sure which province/city is more fucked up: BC/Vancouver or Ontario/Toronto?
Marijuana is BCs next big natural resource that will bring BILLIONs of dollars in tax revenue. I say we use that money to help improve infrastructure not just in Vancouver but on the Islands and Northern BC as well.
Yes, genius!!! :nod:
And Punt, you and I could have a real good discussion about this, I think...LOLound:
Yes, genius!!! :nod:
Oh, Henson...that was a good one!!!!
And Punt, you and I could have a real good discussion about this, I think...LOL
ound:The goal of the city planners is to stop all non business delivery traffic from entering the downtown core and slowly over the years move out from there. The strategy is to keep building up and increase the population density of the city. This will allow rapid transit to be profitable or at least break even. Right now it's people in vehicles who are paying (taxes) for transit and by increasing the density the idea is that the users will pay.
Great idea except the odds they will remove the tax on vehicles are about the same as Rob Ford will stop drinking, eating like a pig and smoking crack.
Great idea except the odds they will remove the tax on vehicles are about the same as Rob Ford will stop drinking, eating like a pig and smoking crack.
I think Ford and Christy Clark should fuck each other and become an item. #twoofakind
I am sure the product of the two of them would result in the best politician ever! #inadrunkenstupour
Bring it, oh sexy Vanessa White. Yes please, do bring a real good discusion. I am here for you. LOL.Oh, Henson...that was a good one!!!!
And Punt, you and I could have a real good discussion about this, I think...LOL
Affectionately,
Punt.
Yes I see nobody ever use the Canada Line, it's never full. I guess all that development on Cambie is just wishful thinking.
Have you actually ridden on the 99B Line? The buses are nearly always full. It's the busiest bus route in North America. The buses are every 2-3 minutes during rush hour, so I guess there must be no demand.
Yes I see nobody ever use the Canada Line, it's never full. I guess all that development on Cambie is just wishful thinking.
Have you actually ridden on the 99B Line? The buses are nearly always full. It's the busiest bus route in North America. The buses are every 2-3 minutes during rush hour, so I guess there must be no demand.
The Canada Line makes me laugh so, so hard. I have been taking transit all my life I can easily see where there will be problems in the future. My #1 problem. Station Identification. They all look the same. If each station was colorful and distinct it would make things easier. #2. More upper hand rails on the cars and #3 why oh why did they not build the stations large enough so a third car could be added in the future?
There are so many things about the Canada Line that make no sense.#4 The "WAY OUT" signs. [sarc] Because the word EXIT is sooooo not universal. [/sarc]
