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Updated for 2024.
Quick Legal Notes
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Is prostitution illegal in Canada?
Kind of. Selling sexual services IS legal, buying sexual services IS NOT legal. This was meant to protect the sexually trafficked, and abused individuals, so they can turn to the police without fear of reprisal.
Should I be worried about law enforcement (VPD and RCMP)?
Not really. The unofficial stance by the RCMP and VPD is that they have bigger problems to deal with than horny johns with too much money on their hands. It's VERY unlikely they set up stings, or bust in your door. I personally have not heard of anyone caught in a sting here that wasn't centered around underage prostitution. They WILL go after underage prostitution and sex trafficking.
Should I worry about being scammed?
It's possible. It's rare to have a knife pulled on you by a guy hiding in the closet. Nowadays being scammed is a digital affair, in the form of deposit fraud, blackmail, and crypto theft. You can avoid these 99% of the time if you do your research and don't jump after a 3am ad posting with a badly photoshopped Jessica Alba photo from the 90s.
General Information
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Where do I find company?
If you're looking for girls in thigh high boots on a street corner at 2am, I hate to break the news to you but those days are gone. Almost everything is done online now, including listing, booking, and transactions. Sites like Leo list, Tryst, and PERB are where your search should start.
Physically speaking almost all agencies and independents have in calls in the downtown area. If you're near the airport or in Burnaby, Coquitlam, etc, . If you're Downtown Vancouver, everything outside of it is an Uber ride of 30 minutes or more. I would consider places in Vancouver, (North and South) Burnaby, and New Westminster.
Richmond is a maybe because it requires crossing a bridge. It's only worth crossing if you're planning to go to Swan Lake, or if you know what you're doing and want to try a micro brothel. I wouldn't suggest trying a micro brothel given you're in unfamiliar territory..
Surrey, and West Vancouver I would skip altogether. They're both a pain in the ass to get to from downtown, and is a lot of effort unless you're stuck on seeing someone in particular.
There are providers who are willing to do outcalls to your hotel but I highly suggest going to their incall instead. They feel safer, are more prepared, and generally less stressed. It'll cost you an Uber ride, but you'll get a bump in service and there are great places to eat to bask in the afterglow afterwards.
What services should I expect?
What are the general services I can expect? You can expect light kissing, CBJ, CFS. Things like DFK, digits, BBBJ, DATY, are at the discretion of the provider. Usually it comes down to hygiene, politeness, and up sell fees. If you have questions about services ask politely, and they'll usually tell you their restrictions.
What is the price range I should expect?
The median is about 300-500/hr. There are outliers that can go into the 1000-2000/hr range. No matter what price range DO NOT NEGOTIATE. This almost always results in instant blacklisting. If you're used to negotiating for things, stop it now. Also, everything is in cash. There are a few places and providers that accept credit cards, but they are few and far between. So remember to bring cash, and don't expect any change.
Will providers accept USD/EUR/NGN?
Services are paid in cash, except for any deposits which are paid in bank transfer/gift cards/crypto. In terms of cash, providers will accept CAD. They will also accept USD but at the exchange of 1:1 for CAD. Which means you lose out on 30%, which is the price you pay for not exchanging ahead of time. The same can be said of the EUR. So exchange ahead of time, or expect to be very generous.
What type of providers are there?
Providers can be roughly divided into three categories: Agencies, independents, and store fronts.
Agencies. They have been rising in popularity recently because of better scheduling information, ease of communication, consistency of services and pricing, and the security that you won't be scammed. Ladies also benefit from agencies since they provide a clean work space, security, and administration services. Agencies have one or more apartments rented across the lower mainland with one or more girls working at each of them. You'll be given directions to these locations after you complete booking. Agencies also provide outcalls to hotels and sometimes residences for an extra booking and transportation fee. There are a number of agencies that work out of the Lower Mainland with most agencies having an incall in both Vancouver, and Burnaby/New Westminister
Independents. These are ladies who do all their booking, advertising, and admin work themselves. As well as the knock your socks off type services. Their rates are usually higher than agencies to cover their additional costs and time, as well as the prestige factor the comes along with their company. When booking with an indy remember to go through their website/ad, note the information they request, be prepared to either provide a reference or personal identity information, ask questions about services you're looking for, and ready a deposit to secure your time together. All this takes time and effort, so don't expect to meet same day with most indys unless you've seen them regularly at one point. You can find indys on both Leolist and Tryst, but in both cases look for reviews on the provider, unless you want to take one for the team and report back about your experiences.
Store Fronts. These are places that have a commercial space with signage, windows, a phone line, and a front door you walk through. These include places like massage parlors, health services, etc, . In the past a store front had either exclusively Asian or exclusively Caucasian providers. Things have changed, and much of that exclusivity of providers has gone away, but the management style tends to be one or the other. You can either check their website to see the schedule of ladies, CALL in and ask, or ask to see a line up when you talk to the receptionist in person. When you've made your selection you will be led to a room with a shower, and bed/massage table where said services will take place.
Depending on the business:
There are a number of store fronts available, and this is an incomplete list of the current popular ones in no particular order.
That's too many options. I don't know where to start!
The easiest way to determine what you should do is figure out how much time you have.
The need is immediate. Now now NOW.
Go the store front option. Most places are open between 10am and 10pm, and obviously welcome walk-ins. CALL each place up until you find a place that has a provider working that matches what you're looking for. Or see what line up they have available when you arrive.
I have a few hours of time, or I want to see someone today.
Agencies are your best bet. Most agencies have websites and ads you can look through. Most have a calendar or schedule you can use. Once you find someone you want to spend some time with search on this website to see if they have any reviews. From those reviews determine if they match your expected service levels and attitude. If everything looks good, TEXT the number that's in their website or ads, and work with the booking agent to schedule some time with them. A few require ID verification, deposit, or references. It's the price of admission to peace of mind, so be prepared to give it up. Deposits are very rarely involved.
You can also try to reach out to indys as well. Some do same day bookings, but don't be disappointed if they don't.
I have a few days to a week to prepare.
Store fronts and agencies are definitely available to you but independent providers are now possible to be considered. Search through Tryst and Leo to find someone you want to spend time with. Search on this website for reviews of anyone you're interested. Steer clear of anyone who does not have a review unless you've got money to burn, or willing to take one for the team. Reach out through TEXT or EMAIL to the lady you're interested in. There's usually information the provider will expect to see on first contact, so make sure you find what it is on their website/ad and include them. Don't just say 'SUP'. There is almost always ID verification, deposit requirement, or references. The verification is either a valid LinkedIn profile, photo of blacked out government ID, or something similar. Deposits are usually $50-$100 in the form of Amazon gift cards, or e-transfers sent to secure your booking. References are usually from other providers, so if you're new to the scene you'll have to see if they're willing to accept other forms of vetting. Once everything has been settled you'll have the time, date, and a location for your arranged tryst.
This is all still very overwhelming.
There are other guides written by other thoughtful board members.
Or contact me to help you out for an exorbitant fee.
Updated for 2024.
Quick Legal Notes
==============
Is prostitution illegal in Canada?
Kind of. Selling sexual services IS legal, buying sexual services IS NOT legal. This was meant to protect the sexually trafficked, and abused individuals, so they can turn to the police without fear of reprisal.
Should I be worried about law enforcement (VPD and RCMP)?
Not really. The unofficial stance by the RCMP and VPD is that they have bigger problems to deal with than horny johns with too much money on their hands. It's VERY unlikely they set up stings, or bust in your door. I personally have not heard of anyone caught in a sting here that wasn't centered around underage prostitution. They WILL go after underage prostitution and sex trafficking.
Should I worry about being scammed?
It's possible. It's rare to have a knife pulled on you by a guy hiding in the closet. Nowadays being scammed is a digital affair, in the form of deposit fraud, blackmail, and crypto theft. You can avoid these 99% of the time if you do your research and don't jump after a 3am ad posting with a badly photoshopped Jessica Alba photo from the 90s.
General Information
================
Where do I find company?
If you're looking for girls in thigh high boots on a street corner at 2am, I hate to break the news to you but those days are gone. Almost everything is done online now, including listing, booking, and transactions. Sites like Leo list, Tryst, and PERB are where your search should start.
Physically speaking almost all agencies and independents have in calls in the downtown area. If you're near the airport or in Burnaby, Coquitlam, etc, . If you're Downtown Vancouver, everything outside of it is an Uber ride of 30 minutes or more. I would consider places in Vancouver, (North and South) Burnaby, and New Westminster.
Richmond is a maybe because it requires crossing a bridge. It's only worth crossing if you're planning to go to Swan Lake, or if you know what you're doing and want to try a micro brothel. I wouldn't suggest trying a micro brothel given you're in unfamiliar territory..
Surrey, and West Vancouver I would skip altogether. They're both a pain in the ass to get to from downtown, and is a lot of effort unless you're stuck on seeing someone in particular.
There are providers who are willing to do outcalls to your hotel but I highly suggest going to their incall instead. They feel safer, are more prepared, and generally less stressed. It'll cost you an Uber ride, but you'll get a bump in service and there are great places to eat to bask in the afterglow afterwards.
What services should I expect?
What are the general services I can expect? You can expect light kissing, CBJ, CFS. Things like DFK, digits, BBBJ, DATY, are at the discretion of the provider. Usually it comes down to hygiene, politeness, and up sell fees. If you have questions about services ask politely, and they'll usually tell you their restrictions.
What is the price range I should expect?
The median is about 300-500/hr. There are outliers that can go into the 1000-2000/hr range. No matter what price range DO NOT NEGOTIATE. This almost always results in instant blacklisting. If you're used to negotiating for things, stop it now. Also, everything is in cash. There are a few places and providers that accept credit cards, but they are few and far between. So remember to bring cash, and don't expect any change.
Will providers accept USD/EUR/NGN?
Services are paid in cash, except for any deposits which are paid in bank transfer/gift cards/crypto. In terms of cash, providers will accept CAD. They will also accept USD but at the exchange of 1:1 for CAD. Which means you lose out on 30%, which is the price you pay for not exchanging ahead of time. The same can be said of the EUR. So exchange ahead of time, or expect to be very generous.
What type of providers are there?
Providers can be roughly divided into three categories: Agencies, independents, and store fronts.
Agencies. They have been rising in popularity recently because of better scheduling information, ease of communication, consistency of services and pricing, and the security that you won't be scammed. Ladies also benefit from agencies since they provide a clean work space, security, and administration services. Agencies have one or more apartments rented across the lower mainland with one or more girls working at each of them. You'll be given directions to these locations after you complete booking. Agencies also provide outcalls to hotels and sometimes residences for an extra booking and transportation fee. There are a number of agencies that work out of the Lower Mainland with most agencies having an incall in both Vancouver, and Burnaby/New Westminister
- 1122 Agency (Downtown Vancouver)
- Temporary Girlfriends (Downtown Vancouver, South Burnaby)
Luxxxe Affaire (Downtown Vancouver)- Asian Fever (Downtown Vancouver, South Burnaby, Surrey, Coquitlam)
- Coco Collective (Downtown Vancouver, North Burnaby, Surrey)
- Vancouver Most Exotic (Downtown Vancouver)
- Bunz Club (Downtown Vancouver, South Vancouver, Burquitlam, South Burnaby)
- Xiao-dimsum (Richmond)
- Korean604 (South Vancouver, Richmond)
- Yumikolove (South Vancouver, Richmond)
- Foxy604 (South Vancouver, Richmond)
- Daynight VIP (Richmond)
Independents. These are ladies who do all their booking, advertising, and admin work themselves. As well as the knock your socks off type services. Their rates are usually higher than agencies to cover their additional costs and time, as well as the prestige factor the comes along with their company. When booking with an indy remember to go through their website/ad, note the information they request, be prepared to either provide a reference or personal identity information, ask questions about services you're looking for, and ready a deposit to secure your time together. All this takes time and effort, so don't expect to meet same day with most indys unless you've seen them regularly at one point. You can find indys on both Leolist and Tryst, but in both cases look for reviews on the provider, unless you want to take one for the team and report back about your experiences.
Store Fronts. These are places that have a commercial space with signage, windows, a phone line, and a front door you walk through. These include places like massage parlors, health services, etc, . In the past a store front had either exclusively Asian or exclusively Caucasian providers. Things have changed, and much of that exclusivity of providers has gone away, but the management style tends to be one or the other. You can either check their website to see the schedule of ladies, CALL in and ask, or ask to see a line up when you talk to the receptionist in person. When you've made your selection you will be led to a room with a shower, and bed/massage table where said services will take place.
Depending on the business:
- pay a room fee (usually 60/hr) and then negotiate with your chosen lady and pay them separately
- pay an upfront amount to the front desk (200-400/hr) for a set expected services (massage, light kissing, CBJ, CFS)
- pay an upfront amount to the front desk for a set of expected services (200-400/hr) and negotiate with the girl for any up sell services they might be willing to provide
There are a number of store fronts available, and this is an incomplete list of the current popular ones in no particular order.
- Swedish Touch (Downtown Vancouver)
- Skyline (Downtown Vancouver)
Platinum Club (Downtown Vancouver)- Great Pharaoh (South Vancouver)
- Sasa Spa (East Vancouver)
- Tiger Spa (East Vancouver)
- Phoenix Massage (East Vancouver)
- Carman Fox (South Burnaby)
- Swan Lake (Richmond)
- Lily's Spa (North Vancouver)
- Dragon Massage Spa (West Vancouver)
That's too many options. I don't know where to start!
The easiest way to determine what you should do is figure out how much time you have.
The need is immediate. Now now NOW.
Go the store front option. Most places are open between 10am and 10pm, and obviously welcome walk-ins. CALL each place up until you find a place that has a provider working that matches what you're looking for. Or see what line up they have available when you arrive.
I have a few hours of time, or I want to see someone today.
Agencies are your best bet. Most agencies have websites and ads you can look through. Most have a calendar or schedule you can use. Once you find someone you want to spend some time with search on this website to see if they have any reviews. From those reviews determine if they match your expected service levels and attitude. If everything looks good, TEXT the number that's in their website or ads, and work with the booking agent to schedule some time with them. A few require ID verification, deposit, or references. It's the price of admission to peace of mind, so be prepared to give it up. Deposits are very rarely involved.
You can also try to reach out to indys as well. Some do same day bookings, but don't be disappointed if they don't.
I have a few days to a week to prepare.
Store fronts and agencies are definitely available to you but independent providers are now possible to be considered. Search through Tryst and Leo to find someone you want to spend time with. Search on this website for reviews of anyone you're interested. Steer clear of anyone who does not have a review unless you've got money to burn, or willing to take one for the team. Reach out through TEXT or EMAIL to the lady you're interested in. There's usually information the provider will expect to see on first contact, so make sure you find what it is on their website/ad and include them. Don't just say 'SUP'. There is almost always ID verification, deposit requirement, or references. The verification is either a valid LinkedIn profile, photo of blacked out government ID, or something similar. Deposits are usually $50-$100 in the form of Amazon gift cards, or e-transfers sent to secure your booking. References are usually from other providers, so if you're new to the scene you'll have to see if they're willing to accept other forms of vetting. Once everything has been settled you'll have the time, date, and a location for your arranged tryst.
This is all still very overwhelming.
There are other guides written by other thoughtful board members.
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/need-help-going-to-try-a-spa.357770/#post-2589181
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/scam-vs-standard-practice.362264/
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/it’s-your-first-time-read-this.357830/
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/booking-an-indy-tips-tricks-dos-and-donts.339457/
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/how-to-spot-a-scam.312248/#post-2291741
- https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/how-to-tell-if-a-photo-in-an-ad-is-real.324642/
Or contact me to help you out for an exorbitant fee.
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