Asian Fever

Vancouver racist towards asians.

so,what do ppl think of the recent suggestion that April s/b named punjabi recognition month(or something like that)

Just another excuse to party/parade and spend tax payers money so politicians can hobnob with all the Punjabi businessmen.

AND for us all to learn more about the Punjabi culture!

First person to tell me where Punjab is gets 10 points!
 

Blonde Brynn

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On the West Coast, of all places, it seems pretty ridiculous not to think of the Chinese descended population as an integral part of the history, given how much it's development depended on the building of the railway.

And as for requiring immigrants to ''assimilate,'' this standard seems to be unevenly applied to those whose minority status is visible. Not a single one of my ancestors was required to learn English before they were given citizenship (along with sizeable plots of land, complements of the First Nations people who were displaced from it). During WWII, despite Germanic heritage, no one was put into an internment camp for being the enemy. In fact, they were given the choice not to fight, due to pacifist beliefs stemming from religion. It seems reasonable to extend to others similar courtesy when they desire to hold onto pieces of their culture.
 

wilde

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I will fight to the death to protect British and French heritage, because that is Canadian.
Is anyone beside me who is glad that this blabbering moron is gone? I'd bet he couldn't count to ten in French................ or English:pound:.
 

richrad

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On the West Coast, of all places, it seems pretty ridiculous not to think of the Chinese descended population as an integral part of the history, given how much it's development depended on the building of the railway.

And as for requiring immigrants to ''assimilate,'' this standard seems to be unevenly applied to those whose minority status is visible. Not a single one of my ancestors was required to learn English before they were given citizenship (along with sizeable plots of land, complements of the First Nations people who were displaced from it). During WWII, despite Germanic heritage, no one was put into an internment camp for being the enemy. In fact, they were given the choice not to fight, due to pacifist beliefs stemming from religion. It seems reasonable to extend to others similar courtesy when they desire to hold onto pieces of their culture.
Absolutely. Where does he get the idea that immigration = assimilation.

Why should we have to? This isn't China. We aren't Chinese. You don't go over to your friends house, sit on your friends couch, uninvited of course, and tell him/her what's for supper, do you? Generally as a guest you kindly accept what is offered, and be thankful.

Enough with the racism card. This should be common sense and common courtesy.
Because that's what the Europeans did when they arrived in this country? They took what the aboriginal people gave them and kindly accepted it without telling them what to do or where to be because this country belonged to them, and the Europeans were just (invited) guests?

That’s a weak argument for preconceived prejudice against a group of people.

And stop calling it “playing the race card”. Some of us would just like to point out that as people of minority, we do sometimes experience racism. We are not asking anyone to compensate us over hurt feelings. We only wish to inform the rest of society—especially those who have not experienced it or do not know about it—that racism exists, and that some of us do get hurt. As a Canadian I’d like to think I have the right to defend my dignity. That much should be guaranteed.
 

InnocentBoy

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I'm curious, what exactly she had to say about the chinese signs?
Thanks for the kind words about the Chinese. I still remember there was an old lady of German descent who spoke for the Chinese in Richmond in the heated English/Chinese signs debate a month ago. John Rabe is an honoured hero in China until this day for his selfless acts during WWII. In China or Hong Kong, to drive a Mercedes or BMW is the real symbol of wealth for much of the middle class. I myself, particularly enjoy watching German movies such as: Der Unterang, Goodbye Lenin and The lives of others. :)
 

thehedonist

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There's no benefit to diversity. On the contrary, it only breeds tension and conflict.

I'm sure a lot of Cambodians would love to move to a nice, clean country like Japan. But the Japanese have this quaint little idea that they'd like Japan to stay Japanese, which is reflected in their strict immigration policies. And God bless them for it. They have every right.

It's only white people who suffer from this sort of pathological altruism we're seeing.
 

thehedonist

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And as for requiring immigrants to ''assimilate,'' this standard seems to be unevenly applied to those whose minority status is visible. Not a single one of my ancestors was required to learn English before they were given citizenship (along with sizeable plots of land, complements of the First Nations people who were displaced from it). During WWII, despite Germanic heritage, no one was put into an internment camp for being the enemy. In fact, they were given the choice not to fight, due to pacifist beliefs stemming from religion. It seems reasonable to extend to others similar courtesy when they desire to hold onto pieces of their culture.
Indeed, the Germans were easily able to assimilate into the British-descended majority, as were several other European groups. But you're ignoring one crucial factor: they're all the same race.

Of course if you believe race is merely an optical illusion and people who've been separated by tens of thousands of years of evolution can live just as harmoniously, then my argument probably won't hold up for you.
 

wilde

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He'll be back if not already. With a New name maybe one from a 2006-2008 multiple handle that's never been used. One thing he has shown is his resolve to be a permanent fixture on these boards. Regardless how many new accounts he has to set up or IP adresses he needs to proxy. His almost fanatical crazy dedication to making sure he's always here, and his voice needs to be heard shows us his stalker tendecies and the fact he's addicted to these boards.
That's what I don't get about these people. Rather than spending all the time and effort to keep coming back from being banned, wouldn't it be easier to just not get banned in the first place? It's ok to have a different opinion and there are ways to disagree with people without being an asshole but I guess those concepts are lost on these people.
 

Ray

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There's no benefit to diversity. On the contrary, it only breeds tension and conflict.

I'm sure a lot of Cambodians would love to move to a nice, clean country like Japan. But the Japanese have this quaint little idea that they'd like Japan to stay Japanese, which is reflected in their strict immigration policies. And God bless them for it. They have every right.

It's only white people who suffer from this sort of pathological altruism we're seeing.
Diversity is awesome. Especially if you like pooning. And dining out. It only breeds tension and conflict among bigots. (On all sides.)

Japan was settled by early Koreans around 300BC.

There is no such thing as 'white' culture. England was settled by the Romans, French, and Germans. The culture there is different than other parts of Europe, such as Spain, Italy, Greece. Different culture again compared to Russia. All 'white' but different.

Race is also an artificial construct.
 
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Smilf

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Well considering the majority of my clients are either asian or white, I don't really have an issue. :eyebrows:
 

yazoo

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Just a question to our Asian BM's - is the word 'Oriental' offensive to you? It appears to be a no-no here in North America, but travelling around in Asia you see Oriental this and Oriental that - it's used in business names as much as 'Pacific' is used here.

Has it fallen out of fashion everywhere, or are we just uptight about something that isn't even a problem?

The word is far more specific than 'Asian' - which includes the Indian subcontinent and includes many races.
 

Sonny

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Is it not that "racism" is just another element of "intolerance" and "hatred"?
We call it "racism" if our hatred is directed to a seemingly group-able collection of human beings.

If we dealt with the actual root basis of hatred itself, there would be no racism, no xenophobia of any kind.

Working on "black", "white", "red", yellow", Asian, European, American, Canadian, Aboriginal, etc., etc., will not get you free of bigotry.
There are too many of "them" categories to work on each individually.
Fortunately, there's but one root of hatred and it's found through one's own mind.

You stand a better chance of working with people and difficult situations if you remove hatred from the conversation.
 
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myselftheother

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:clap2::thumb::nod:

Is it not that "racism" is just another element of "intolerance" and "hatred"?
We call it "racism" if our hatred is directed to a seemingly group-able collection of human beings.

If we dealt with the actual root basis of hatred itself, there would be no racism, no xenophobia of any kind.

Working on "black", "white", "red", yellow", Asian, European, American, Canadian, Aboriginal, etc., etc., will not get you free of bigotry.
There are too many of "them" categories to work on each individually.
Fortunately, there's but one root of hatred and it's found through one's own mind.

You stand a better chance of working with people and difficult situations if you remove hatred from the conversation.
 

yazoo

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I'm not sure what a BM is, urban dictionary lists Bad Mannered...?
Yeah, I meant Board Member

As far as a preference to Asian over Oriental, the only time I've heard anything about this was the opposite.
My first Japanese GF would say "Don't call me Asian, call me Oriental".
I have had the same reaction, so wonder about the origin of the little involuntary gasp that the use of it causes here.
Being called Asian pissed her off because it included Indians, Cambodians, Filipinos etc...
And Filipinos say "I'm not Asian, I'm an Islander". Sheesh! It's so complicated being friendly.
 

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Depending on which board member posted, BM could be referring to something entirely different ...
Bowel Movement?

Just a question to our Asian BM's - is the word 'Oriental' offensive to you? It appears to be a no-no here in North America, but travelling around in Asia you see Oriental this and Oriental that - it's used in business names as much as 'Pacific' is used here.

Has it fallen out of fashion everywhere, or are we just uptight about something that isn't even a problem?

The word is far more specific than 'Asian' - which includes the Indian subcontinent and includes many races.
People say Oriental is offensive because objects are 'from the Orient' so it's oriental inanimate objects as opposed to oriental people.
 

Big Dog Striker

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I always tell people who are discriminated upon, whatever their color is, or their education, or their status in life is to forgive the so-called racists as the latter haven't had the fortune of experiencing the greatness of kindness in their lifetime. :) :)
 
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