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Use a Red Pocket envelope?

ryankumar

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I normally pay an SP using a plain envelope....

Would it be rude / offensive to pay a chinese SP using a Red pocket envelope - type with the Chinese New Years designs??

Just wondering if there would be a conflict between the service/work they do and the curtural side of things...
 

Unpossible

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What's wrong with a regular envelope?
 

Inamorato

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I believe these envelopes are traditionally used for gifts only...

So don't be surprised if she accepts it, then asks you for the donation.;)
 

oppai

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From the post it would appear you are NOT Chinese. I think you would not get a bad reaction except for a laugh perhaps. But I think it would be pretty cheesy. I think you would be better off getting a nice card or a papyrus type envelope that shows some thought and consideration. My last appointment with an outcall SP I had a nice card and wrote a kind little note. The reaction was very favorable...I think you are better off with this tact.
 

Katlyn

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It's Chinese New Year this weekend, he probably thinks it would be a nice gesture but wants to make sure it would not be offensive first. I think it is a great idea but I'm not Chinese so I'm not sure if it would be considered rude.
 

Lovely Rubi

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I'm not of Asian descent but I would say yes it would be offensive and possibly taken out of context. Chinese new year is not a Hallmark holiday and to pay someone using these envelopes is not the same as stuffing a 20 dollar bill into a novelty xmas card and envelope ESPECIALLY considering what the money is for. There are other ways to show that you are hip to someone's culture, I don't think this is one of the best ways. If you want to stand out to a particular SP perhaps finding out what her favorite color is and paying her in envelopes of that colour or if she's into certain animated character like Hello Kitty, Pucca etc and paying her with envelopes that have that character on it perhaps.

Just my two cents.
 

FortunateOne

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It would possibly be okay for a small tip, but not the fee, just as a separate thing. I think (I'm not Chinese, but have received one before) that it is good luck for the giver. But totally separate from the payment, and probably only if you are seeing the sp on a regular basis.

Red envelopes are mainly presented at social and family gatherings such as Chinese weddings or on holidays such as the Chinese New Year. The red color of the envelope symbolizes good luck and is supposed to ward off evil spirits.

The amount of money contained in the envelope usually ends with an even digit, in accordance with Chinese beliefs; for instance 88 and 168 are both lucky numbers, as odd-numbered money gifts are traditionally associated with funerals. But there is a widespread tradition that money should not be given in fours, or the number four should not appear in the amount, as the number itself has a similar tone to the Chinese character for "death", and it signifies bad luck for many Chinese. At weddings, the amount offered is usually intended to cover the cost of the attendees as well as a goodwill to the newly weds.

During Chinese New Year, mainly in South China, red envelopes (in the North, just money without any cover) are typically given to the unmarried by the married, regardless of age. Traditionally, the red envelope is not supposed to be opened until the Chinese New Year festivities are over; otherwise, bad luck would befall the recipient for the whole year.
 

SidGuy

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I just plunk the money down on the first counter I see, along with my wallet, cell phone and keys. That way it's dealt with and out of the way....Then at the end of the session, I grab my wallet, cell, keys, and put a tip with the money already there (if needed)

Is that rude? I honestly didn't know I was supposed to use an envelope...
 

ryankumar

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It's Chinese New Year this weekend, he probably thinks it would be a nice gesture but wants to make sure it would not be offensive first. I think it is a great idea but I'm not Chinese so I'm not sure if it would be considered rude.
Thanks Katyln, appreciate your understanding...

Yeah, this question was asked in the spirit of truly wanting to know and not a joke or trying to be funny.

I actually did think that it might be a nice gesture and show some appreciation & recognition of someone's culture etc, rather than just handover some cash with a thanks for a good time.... I thought it might make her day...

Chinese New Year in Vancouver is actually quite a commercial affair and is celebrated by many other cultures and people of all races....

From the rather mixed bag of thoughts on this, at this time, I'll give the Red envelope idea a miss unless there are many other comments to the contrary.

Better to ask and be aware vs just doing something, right??

Thanks all for the input!
 

moi

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^ I think for the regular payment a white envelope or none at all is sufficient. If you TIP her on top of that, however, a red envelope would be ok.

HOWEVER, I was once handed a red packet during CNY by an obnoxious australian family friend and my cousins and I all laughed at him and made fun of him in our own language. Looking back, I don't know if we laughed at him because it was weird getting "ang pao" from a white guy, or the fact we all didn't like him.
 

festealth

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Red envelope is supposed to be from "married" people to others. Widows, would also be in the category as "married"... not sure about divorced people though....

Anyways... I'm not married, so I don't give out lai-see money, I receive them:D
 

Unpossible

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I'm asking as it's close to Chinese New Year...
I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking generally and not specifically because the cny was coming up. Sorry if you thought I was being an asshole. :eek:
 

ryankumar

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I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking generally and not specifically because the cny was coming up. Sorry if you thought I was being an asshole. :eek:

All good... ;)

Saw another thread about pooning during/on CNY.... Gues others are thinking along the same lines.......

Whats the exact date anyway ???
 

good2bbad

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I believe actual new years day is the 26th
g:)
 

FortunateOne

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I just plunk the money down on the first counter I see, along with my wallet, cell phone and keys. That way it's dealt with and out of the way....Then at the end of the session, I grab my wallet, cell, keys, and put a tip with the money already there (if needed)

Is that rude? I honestly didn't know I was supposed to use an envelope...
Don't worry about it. Some higher end sps request it in an envelope, and set down somewhere in sight. I don't think it is rude at all to not use an envelope, in the end you can't really disguise what is going on simply thru use of an envelope lol. (But higher end sps charge more, and having several large bills floating around--probably not a good idea).
 
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