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hedgeman

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Not unless somebody gives Biden directions on how to get here.

This insurrection was totally made up and the truth is coming out. There were a whole bunch of ANTIFA and BLM dressed as Trump supporters that got in and the FBI tricked the real Trump supporters to come in thinking it was okay, then proceeded to arrest them for trespassing, none of them had weapons, as reported by the media. Total set up. Agent provocateurs, the oldest trick in the book. Do you remember Trump saying go protest peacefully? The anti-Trumper’s wanted a riot to happen to blame it on Trump...didn’t happen. During last summer there was a lot of rioting in different cities, as well as torching buildings. But because it was BLM and ANTIFA it was ok? None of the Dem’s called them out. Nice double-standard.
Show me where he says peacefully? he said, and I quote " because YOU'LL never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength, you have to be strong" So keep spouting off your BS lies and keep drinking that Koolaid!

 

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Show me where he says peacefully? he said, and I quote " because YOU'LL never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength, you have to be strong" So keep spouting off your BS lies and keep drinking that Koolaid!

By the same token, where does that statement encourage violence? Many Democrats have made statements more provocative than that.
 

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Its called Justice
Try to keep up. The attacks, and constant "anonymous" sources and interpretations have nothing to do with justice. If there's to be justice, why isn''t the same scrutiny of Biden to the same extent as Trump? Why the silence on Biden's missteps and confusion? Why isn't every statement parsed and regurgitated the same way as with Trump? Why is there no mention of Biden's son's various schemes, and possible "collusion" with his father?
Why has the MSM forgotten about Biden's past, when they have dug up anything from Trump's past?...https://www.pastemagazine.com/polit...eulogized-one-of-america-s-most-famed-racists
 

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Try to keep up. The attacks, and constant "anonymous" sources and interpretations have nothing to do with justice. If there's to be justice, why isn''t the same scrutiny of Biden to the same extent as Trump? Why the silence on Biden's missteps and confusion? Why isn't every statement parsed and regurgitated the same way as with Trump? Why is there no mention of Biden's son's various schemes, and possible "collusion" with his father?
Why has the MSM forgotten about Biden's past, when they have dug up anything from Trump's past?...https://www.pastemagazine.com/polit...eulogized-one-of-america-s-most-famed-racists
Try not to be ignorant of reality
 

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Then why would the media and Democrats be trying so hard to malign him?
Why not just sit back and wait if he'll be no threat, and a sure thing to be out of the picture?
Because he was a wildly unpopular President who's approval rating was underwater his entire term and flaunted blatant corruption and rule breaking for personal gain. Sure, he gave up his Presidential salary, but he had the US government (and foreign governments) spending tons of cash at his company's properties. He barely had any policy goals beyond the usual Republican wedge issues, hell the Republican Party didn't even have a platform for the 2020 election.
 

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By the same token, where does that statement encourage violence? Many Democrats have made statements more provocative than that.
First, he held a rally on Jan 6 next to the Capitol grounds, after insisting publicly that Pence should overturn the certification of the election, with no other purpose than drawing large amounts of people to DC and having them march down to the Capitol Building during the certification process.

Trump on Twitter: "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"
Trump: "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide"
Trump: "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Trump: "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen"
Trump: "We must stop the steal"
Trump: "Something's wrong here, something's really wrong. Can't have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore"

Trump: "We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. We're going to the Capitol. We're going to try to give -- the Democrats are hopeless, they're never voting for anything. Not even one vote -- but we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, we're going to try to give them the kind of pride and boldness they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

This is after he's manufactured claims of electoral fraud. The elections were certified by the states and the votes already submitted, just waiting to be formally counted and certified in the house. Legal challenges in the courts were exhausted. There's no legal or political remedy and he's telling his followers that elections are rigged against them. If you believe that, the solution isn't to go campaign extra hard for your party the next election cycle. You think there were headed over to cheer and dance on the front lawn outside the Capitol?
 

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First, he held a rally on Jan 6 next to the Capitol grounds, after insisting publicly that Pence should overturn the certification of the election, with no other purpose than drawing large amounts of people to DC and having them march down to the Capitol Building during the certification process.

Trump on Twitter: "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"
Trump: "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide"
Trump: "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Trump: "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen"
Trump: "We must stop the steal"
Trump: "Something's wrong here, something's really wrong. Can't have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore"

Trump: "We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. We're going to the Capitol. We're going to try to give -- the Democrats are hopeless, they're never voting for anything. Not even one vote -- but we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, we're going to try to give them the kind of pride and boldness they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

This is after he's manufactured claims of electoral fraud. The elections were certified by the states and the votes already submitted, just waiting to be formally counted and certified in the house. Legal challenges in the courts were exhausted. There's no legal or political remedy and he's telling his followers that elections are rigged against them. If you believe that, the solution isn't to go campaign extra hard for your party the next election cycle. You think there were headed over to cheer and dance on the front lawn outside the Capitol?
Said it before I did thank you
 

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Show me where he says peacefully? he said, and I quote " because YOU'LL never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength, you have to be strong" So keep spouting off your BS lies and keep drinking that Koolaid!

That is hilarious. Your video cuts out right before he says peacefully.
 

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I went back scrolling through this thread. Pretty animated I must say. But when moving through the pages I realized that pretty much every one of the trolls I have in my IGNORE file are in this thread. I didn't realize I had picked off so many of them.
 
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Cock Throppled

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Because he was a wildly unpopular President who's approval rating was underwater his entire term and flaunted blatant corruption and rule breaking for personal gain. Sure, he gave up his Presidential salary, but he had the US government (and foreign governments) spending tons of cash at his company's properties. He barely had any policy goals beyond the usual Republican wedge issues, hell the Republican Party didn't even have a platform for the 2020 election.
Wildly unpolular, but got how many votes...? How popular is Biden right now?
 

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Anyone remember Michael Avenatti? He was the lawyer who was on CNN every other hour because he was going to take down Trump, and possibly even run against him as a presidential candidate. The media darling of the left, who couldn't get enough of him because he was so honest, forthright, knowledgeable and knew how to deal with his enemies.

I wonder what ever happened to him, and why the leftist media hasn't hung on his every word for so long?
 

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First, he held a rally on Jan 6 next to the Capitol grounds, after insisting publicly that Pence should overturn the certification of the election, with no other purpose than drawing large amounts of people to DC and having them march down to the Capitol Building during the certification process.

Trump on Twitter: "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"
Trump: "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide"
Trump: "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Trump: "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen"
Trump: "We must stop the steal"
Trump: "Something's wrong here, something's really wrong. Can't have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore"

Trump: "We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. We're going to the Capitol. We're going to try to give -- the Democrats are hopeless, they're never voting for anything. Not even one vote -- but we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, we're going to try to give them the kind of pride and boldness they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

This is after he's manufactured claims of electoral fraud. The elections were certified by the states and the votes already submitted, just waiting to be formally counted and certified in the house. Legal challenges in the courts were exhausted. There's no legal or political remedy and he's telling his followers that elections are rigged against them. If you believe that, the solution isn't to go campaign extra hard for your party the next election cycle. You think there were headed over to cheer and dance on the front lawn outside the Capitol?
Not one of those things advocates violence, except for Trump haters, Democrats and their bought media. How many Democrats have used language actually advocating violence such as attacking people wearing MAGA hats, abusing high school students who were wrongly accused of racism, harrassing members of Trump's cabinet in public, calling for Trump to be assassinated? How many times since 2016 have Democrats said Russia stole the election for Trump, and tried impeaching him more than once? Talk about sore losers. After spending four years saying the 2016 election wasn't legitimate, they have the nerve to complain when the otjer side says the same thing. The things you guys are cheering now, just remember, when you set that standard, it can then be used against you when the power tables turn.
 

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I went back scrolling through this thread. Pretty animated I must say. But when moving through the pages I realized that pretty much every one of the trolls I have in my IGNORE file are in this thread. I didn't realize I had picked off so many of them.
At least it's easy on perb. I lost my friend of 30 years to the Fox madness. Ironically he's not even born in the US but has gone MAGA-mad. When he started railing about BLM, "burning cities" and "how they are all like that", I cut him off.

I'm willing to tolerate different points of view, but that was a bridge too far.

On a side note, this is how bat shit crazy things have become:

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/9664...blicans-say-political-violence-may-be-necessa

Could you imagine a similar poll done in Canada? Just imagine the same results: 40% of Conservative voters say political violence may be necessary.
 
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