USA political thread

[masterpoonhunter]

I agree with you on trolls, but i dont think Shakerod is trying to troll us here- hes got skin the game.

The problem with leaving these kind of cult ideas lay unmentioned is that they take on an appearance of normalcy even though they're batshit-crazy. It has to be debated and reality checked everywhere you see it , or it grows like a cancer.

Feel free to debate with the trolls but doing so just feeds them. The cognitive dissonance though of several on here is so high why even bother a discussion. Just acknowledging their bull shit gives it credibility it does not deserve. Find other posts the trolls have made in other threads, you will see pretty quickly these are just trolling posts egging folks on to indulge their fantasy. Ignoring them is the only way to let them know they are not part of the community.

 

[wetnose]

I wonder if their posting just feeds their persecution complex. Obviously they're not going to convince any of us.

Or maybe they're just mentally ill - after all, the definition of insanity is to keep on doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

 

[masterblaster]

Feel free to debate with the trolls but doing so just feeds them. The cognitive dissonance though of several on here is so high why even bother a discussion. Just acknowledging their bull shit gives it credibility it does not deserve. Find other posts the trolls have made in other threads, you will see pretty quickly these are just trolling posts egging folks on to indulge their fantasy. Ignoring them is the only way to let them know they are not part of the community.

Like in the movie Witness. The Amish would shun someone if they were perceived to be not following the guidelines of the faith. I vote for shunning.

 

[Shakerod]

I read just fine tyvm, probably better than you do. you said this " I think someone who has gone on to built a successful business should be admired for what they have accomplished after going through what he went through " this conversation is about Trump, I "obviously" mistakenly assumed that is who you were referring to. What are your thoughts about what have come to light about the asshole using the DOJ starting with Sessions and ending with Barr openly using the DOJ to subpoena Apple to get PHONE RECORDS of Democrats in Congress and the Senate? Hmmm??? What say you now? Fuck out of here with your bullshit...You're as much a waste of skin and oxygen as he is...

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I read just fine tyvm, probably better than you do. you said this " I think someone who has gone on to built a successful business should be admired for what they have accomplished after going through what he went through " this conversation is about Trump, I "obviously" mistakenly assumed that is who you were referring to. What are your thoughts about what have come to light about the asshole using the DOJ starting with Sessions and ending with Barr openly using the DOJ to subpoena Apple to get PHONE RECORDS of Democrats in Congress and the Senate? Hmmm??? What say you now? Fuck out of here with your bullshit...You're as much a waste of skin and oxygen as he is...

The DOJ has been drowning in the swamp for decades. Everything that happens in that department is corrupt. How many times has Adam Schiff leaked information to the media without any consequences? When are we going to see Hillary's emails? Barr and Sessions were clueless, they sat there and did nothing.

 

[hedgeman]

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The DOJ has been drowning in the swamp for decades. Everything that happens in that department is corrupt. How many times has Adam Schiff leaked information to the media without any consequences? When are we going to see Hillary's emails? Barr and Sessions were clueless, they sat there and did nothing.

they did nothing, because there is nothing they COULD do. And now the big news of the day that Trump tried to use the DOJ to spy on his political opponents and get them to help push and uphold the HUGE lie, not just a big one anymore. Seriously, do the world a favour and unplug from the Matrix

 

[Cock Throppled]

Biden cozying up to Putin, and praising him. I guess, by the standards some of you set that makes Biden Putin's bitch, and he's now a Russian agent.

Name one sanction Biden has placed on Russia.

 

[musingaway]

Biden cozying up to Putin, and praising him. I guess, by the standards some of you set that makes Biden Putin's bitch, and he's now a Russian agent.

Name one sanction Biden has placed on Russia.

I think you can read about it in the article titled “Biden Hits Russia With New Sanctions” from April.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I think you can read about it in the article titled “Biden Hits Russia With New Sanctions” from April.

Other than removing diplomats, none of it was implemented, and now they've agreed to re-instate envoys. Maybe there should be a $20 million investigation to see what links Joe and his family have to Russia, China and Ukraine. We already know his son had ties that had no justification based on his experience or ability, and his laptop is full of references to his father's position as VP.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Biden cozying up to Putin, and praising him. I guess, by the standards some of you set that makes Biden Putin's bitch, and he's now a Russian agent.

Name one sanction Biden has placed on Russia.

By the standards some you set we just call you fake news, jealous do nothings,

Other than removing diplomats, none of it was implemented, and now they've agreed to re-instate envoys. Maybe there should be a $20 million investigation to see what links Joe and his family have to Russia, China and Ukraine. We already know his son had ties that had no justification based on his experience or ability, and his laptop is full of references to his father's position as VP.

Witch hunt, fake news. Extreme right wing talking points. Exonherated.

 

[musingaway]

Other than removing diplomats, none of it was implemented, and now they've agreed to re-instate envoys. Maybe there should be a $20 million investigation to see what links Joe and his family have to Russia, China and Ukraine. We already know his son had ties that had no justification based on his experience or ability, and his laptop is full of references to his father's position as VP.

What do you mean they weren't implemented?
The sanction order is online at the The US Treasury Active Sanction Programs List.
Executive Order 14024

You can argue with the content and usefulness, as with anything the government does, but it appears to be a very deliberate step in foreign relations strategy with Russia.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Banning US financial institutions from purchasing rouble-dominated bonds is going to really cripple Russia.

How many sanctions were imposed by Trump, vs Biden?...https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10779.pdf

 

[Cock Throppled]

By the standards some you set we just call you fake news, jealous do nothings,


Witch hunt, fake news. Extreme right wing talking points. Exonherated.

Cite one thing I posted that was incorrect?
What comparable investigation to the "Trump Collusion" exhonerated any Biden?
Can you find any justification for Hunter Biden being paid $50,000 a month with no experience in the industry? Do you know anyone paid that much with no background in an industry other than having a father being in a position to help?
Can you name any white person who casually uses the N word who isn't automatically cancelled?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Cite one thing I posted that was incorrect?
What comparable investigation to the "Trump Collusion" exhonerated any Biden?

Can you find any justification for Hunter Biden being paid $50,000 a month with no experience in the industry? Do you know anyone paid that much with no background in an industry other than having a father being in a position to help?

Trump was not exhonerated, he was just not removed.

I cant find justification for what most rich people are paid anywhere, but he does have a law degree, was on the board of Burisma, and is a hedgie/angel investor.

Two people i can think of right away without background - Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner.

In any event, did Hunter use the position to track dirt about his families political opponents, or exert pressure somewhere? Where does your dark discredited consiparcy lead?

 

[80watts]

Biden cozying up to Putin, and praising him. I guess, by the standards some of you set that makes Biden Putin's bitch, and he's now a Russian agent.

Name one sanction Biden has placed on Russia.

Depends on whether you think China is the bigger threat to US Security. The US and Russia have been playing the game for so long, its like they are old friends...
At stake here is access to world resources and energy, without using your own in the process.

The big thing in the future is for everyone to go off the grid (electrical). This includes companies, who pay big time bills for electricity.

One thing our society demands is safety and good products. The high standards cost more.

 

[musingaway]

Cite one thing I posted that was incorrect?
What comparable investigation to the "Trump Collusion" exhonerated any Biden?
Can you find any justification for Hunter Biden being paid $50,000 a month with no experience in the industry? Do you know anyone paid that much with no background in an industry other than having a father being in a position to help?
Can you name any white person who casually uses the N word who isn't automatically cancelled?

Being on the board isn't like he's designing oil wells. I'm not saying his success isn't influenced by his father's name, but he graduated from law school, has worked in the finance industry and has his own experience in the US government. George W Bush nominated Hunter Biden to replace Dukakis on the board for Amtrak.

I mean, goddamn, look at the CV's for McDonald's Board of Directors. Private equity firms, WNBA, Chevron, real estate... it's not like a Board is some meritocracy where you work hard to earn your seat at the table. It's networking, contacts and wealth supporting wealth. It's not great, but it's not some Tom Clancy-esque, Ukrainian conspiracy.

 

[wetnose]

Ooooh, Jan 6 getting juicy...

FYI, Glenn was a federal prosecutor for 24 years, so he's not some guy mouthing off.

 

[badbadboy]

Being on the board isn't like he's designing oil wells. I'm not saying his success isn't influenced by his father's name, but he graduated from law school, has worked in the finance industry and has his own experience in the US government. George W Bush nominated Hunter Biden to replace Dukakis on the board for Amtrak.

I mean, goddamn, look at the CV's for McDonald's Board of Directors. Private equity firms, WNBA, Chevron, real estate... it's not like a Board is some meritocracy where you work hard to earn your seat at the table. It's networking, contacts and wealth supporting wealth. It's not great, but it's not some Tom Clancy-esque, Ukrainian conspiracy.

#45 is not a lawyer but did graduate from Wharton business school.

Interesting all schools he attended were warned and threatened with jail time if they posted his grades publicly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/amp/

 

[hedgeman]

#45 is not a lawyer but did graduate from Wharton business school.

Interesting all schools he attended were warned and threatened with jail time if they posted his grades publicly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/amp/

Yeah, because he's a fuckin idiot with a 200 word vocabulary....he's a BIGLY idiot! lol

 

[musingaway]

Some good news that even the Trump supporters should be happy about -- a Republican-led investigation into Michigan's 2020 results found no evidence of significant vote fraud in Michigan: Oversight Committee Report
The report is from the state's Oversight Committee, lead by State Senator Ed McBroom (R), along with two other republicans and one Dem as the Minority Vice-Chair.

Some highlights:

• 2 claims of dead people voting were found to be true. but neither constituted fraud. One was a 118 yr old man who has the same name and same residence as his son. The second was a 92 yr old woman who died four days before the election, however her absentee ballot had been submitted prior to her death.
• "There was no evidence presented to the Committee indicating that hundreds of thousands of absentee voter ballots were mailed to Michigan voters without previously being requested."
• "The early allegation of fractional voting was supported by a few photographs which appeared to be screen shots from computer screens running the Dominion software. The chair specifically called for this information during public testimony as its existence would have been a profound demonstration of proof. However, despite numerous, repeated requests from the chair and assurances from those making the allegation, no proof, whether by demonstration or verifiable citation, was ever offered to or obtained by the Committee. "
• "The Committee can confidently assert that it has been thorough in examination of numerous allegations of unlawful actions, improper procedures, fraud, vote theft, or any other description which would cause citizens to doubt the integrity of Michigan’s 2020 election results."

 

[Cock Throppled]

President Biden’s topic was one of utmost importance Wednesday — crime and gun violence. But you wouldn’t know it from the way he spoke.

He slurred his words. He called the ATF “the AFT.” At one point, he talked about the history of the Second Amendment and “the blood of patriots” before concluding that someone would need nuclear weapons to take down the government. If you weren’t confused, you were horrified.

Biden was obviously tired, speaking in barely a monotone. He couldn’t pronounce “cognitive.”

The media would pick apart every appearance of President Trump, saying, even in news stories, that he was “manic,” “exhausted” or some other adjective. Yet a protective circle has formed around Biden, preventing them from stating the obvious: Joe Biden, 78, looked out of it.