USA political thread

[carvesg]

You're wasting your time trying to talk or reason to him, his head is so far up the GOP's collective asses if he sneezes, it's coming out of their mouths.

Lol I'm like an hopeful friend that his buddy will come to reason.

I spent my whole life emerge reading ,listening and watching about history, politics and world events . When I hear about fake news it makes me cringe as all news is something that evolves constantly and the reporters, editors and journalists will get it wrong from time to time while trying to analyze a complex subject . That the first person who has never been wrong through the first stone and be judgemental....
As long as they apologize when they realize their mistake in light of new information I will continue relying on them for information as they have most of the time fact checkers on staff or peers doing it ...over opinion crazies blairing anecdotal stories . An event while evolving will reveal its full details over a period of time and to try to pin point a mistake about a small details to create doubts about the reporting or the whole event and specially to believe those theories ...is to me childish as an adult should know better or have more perspective.

 

[Cock Throppled]

yup

Thanks for admitting you are no different than ardent Trump supporters, or QAnon conspiracists, when your argument is entirely based on politics, rather than facts, ethics and honesty.

When you choose to base you criticisms, or lack of them on politics, or hatred you have become what you claim to hate.

So, congratulations on showing whatever you, and your ilk have to say lacks any credibility.

 

[Cock Throppled]

There's no way to know, right now if there was no fraud involved in the US election, a tiny bit, or a lot, or even enough to sway any election in any state, but why would anyone be against an audit to be absolutely certain?

Why would anyone or any party be against the most stringent applications to ensure everything was done correctly, especially in a year where things were off-kilter with Covid, and emergency, or rushed methods to vote were instituted?

Surely it's in the interests of every party, and all citizens to WANT to make sure, there was no fraud. Why would anyone fight to try to stop an attempt to make sure there was no fraud?

 

[carvesg]

There's no way to know, right now if there was no fraud involved in the US election, a tiny bit, or a lot, or even enough to sway any election in any state, but why would anyone be against an audit to be absolutely certain?

Why would anyone or any party be against the most stringent applications to ensure everything was done correctly, especially in a year where things were off-kilter with Covid, and emergency, or rushed methods to vote were instituted?

Surely it's in the interests of every party, and all citizens to WANT to make sure, there was no fraud. Why would anyone fight to try to stop an attempt to make sure there was no fraud?

When ranking members of the Republican party in Arizona tell people that those Ninja people have no experience and have never done an audit before ; I would not rely on their expertise or their findings . Republicans audited those elections results back in November and December and admitted that the results were accurate; they even certified them.

Studies looking into voter fraud found 32 cases out of a billions votes casted in the last decade .

What would ranking members of the Republican party gain by allowing Democrats to win in their state ? Or what would they gain by weakening their party at the federal level ? Knowing that it would trigger turmoil in their own party .... Keeping in mind that the people down ballot did well. Dismissing the votes to Biden is dismissing all the others down ballot as well . That could trigger a revenge voting from the population that the whining "trumpers" might be wise to keep in mind .

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Been using the ignore button for quite awhile now. Not for posters whom I disagree with but for the trolls on the forum. My current count is I believe, 8 of them. As wetnose notes, why bother with these individuals.

 

[johnnydepth]

Been using the ignore button for quite awhile now. Not for posters whom I disagree with but for the trolls on the forum. My current count is I believe, 8 of them. As wetnose notes, why bother with these individuals.

I just ignore what they post.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

I just ignore what they post.

Yes, and I take it that step forward so I don't even see the shit they post.
Good for the overall psyche to not be annoyed by idiots.

 

[Cock Throppled]

When ranking members of the Republican party in Arizona tell people that those Ninja people have no experience and have never done an audit before ; I would not rely on their expertise or their findings . Republicans audited those elections results back in November and December and admitted that the results were accurate; they even certified them.

Studies looking into voter fraud found 32 cases out of a billions votes casted in the last decade .

What would ranking members of the Republican party gain by allowing Democrats to win in their state ? Or what would they gain by weakening their party at the federal level ? Knowing that it would trigger turmoil in their own party .... Keeping in mind that the people down ballot did well. Dismissing the votes to Biden is dismissing all the others down ballot as well . That could trigger a revenge voting from the population that the whining "trumpers" might be wise to keep in mind .

Will you at least concede this was not in any way a normal election?

As I posted earlier, due to Covid, there were changes to the way ballots were cast, how and to whom ballots were sent out, absentee ballots were approved and emergency ways of casting ballots not in-person meant things were not done with as much oversight as in the past.

I'll ask again - why would anyone be against making sure everything is in order? This would benefit, and re-assure the winners, and shut up disgruntled losers. As to who does the audit - if everyone had agreed to proper audits, there wouldn't be a question of who got hired, there should have been a consensus.

 

[80watts]

Well if you want to steal ballot and votes. You don't on electronic devices have a program that changes 4 out of every (party name here) 6 votes go to the other party. You change 1 out of 15 votes. Its like your a thief in a house, you don't take everything valuable in sight. You take stuff they will not notice for awhile.

This last election brought out alot of voters. Could it be that both sides were playing and cheating abit? Who knows for sure?

I am glad Trump is out of the white house and not tweeting his stupid shit anymore. Voting for Trump is like proof that these people who voted for him are hillbillies who marry their own kin...

Trump is going to be in hot water for awhile with his taxes. How does a billionaire not make money in the last 15 years? And still maintain a cash flow to pay for things??? For the sure things in life; like taxes and death. Donald Trump only has 1 more to beat.... If the IRS dosnen't take him down first.....

 

[masterblaster]

Thanks for admitting you are no different than ardent Trump supporters, or QAnon conspiracists, when your argument is entirely based on politics, rather than facts, ethics and honesty.

When you choose to base you criticisms, or lack of them on politics, or hatred you have become what you claim to hate.

So, congratulations on showing whatever you, and your ilk have to say lacks any credibility.

you must have me confused with someone that cares

 

[masterblaster]

Will you at least concede this was not in any way a normal election?

As I posted earlier, due to Covid, there were changes to the way ballots were cast, how and to whom ballots were sent out, absentee ballots were approved and emergency ways of casting ballots not in-person meant things were not done with as much oversight as in the past.

I'll ask again - why would anyone be against making sure everything is in order? This would benefit, and re-assure the winners, and shut up disgruntled losers. As to who does the audit - if everyone had agreed to proper audits, there wouldn't be a question of who got hired, there should have been a consensus.

Anything that trump doesn’t win must be rigged according to him. Look how much he whined that the emmys were rigged because his piece of shit reality show never won any. A thousand audits could be done on the election and if they showed trump lost (which he did) him and his mindless followers wouldn’t accept the results anyway.

 

[carvesg]

Will you at least concede this was not in any way a normal election?

As I posted earlier, due to Covid, there were changes to the way ballots were cast, how and to whom ballots were sent out, absentee ballots were approved and emergency ways of casting ballots not in-person meant things were not done with as much oversight as in the past.

I'll ask again - why would anyone be against making sure everything is in order? This would benefit, and re-assure the winners, and shut up disgruntled losers. As to who does the audit - if everyone had agreed to proper audits, there wouldn't be a question of who got hired, there should have been a consensus.

I totally agree with you that it was not a normal election and that we most likely will never see things done the same way.

I simply assume that since those disputed states are mostly run by Republicans including Pennsylvania with a republican Senate that they did their do diligence for the sake of fairness and for their own self preservation by double checking that the counts were in accordance to their voting list . Since both parties have representatives at the counting tables or facilities as well as having attorneys present for each party.

Was it a slightly different way to proceed ? Yes

Was most of those states obeying by state Republicans rules and procedures set during the previous spring and summer? Yes

Was it counted by both parties and attorneys ? Yes

Was the election certified after recounts by Republican ranking members and elected officials ? Yes

Were all those people in on it across all those states to kick trump out but not the rest of the slate "as they did better than the polls " ? That I would say No

That's where I come from .. if most of them would have been run by Democrats my alarm bells would be ringing .... specially with the results in Georgia unless we would be in 1956

 

[masterblaster]

I totally agree with you that it was not a normal election and that we most likely will never see things done the same way.

I simply assume that since those disputed states are mostly run by Republicans including Pennsylvania with a republican Senate that they did their do diligence for the sake of fairness and for their own self preservation by double checking that the counts were in accordance to their voting list . Since both parties have representatives at the counting tables or facilities as well as having attorneys present for each party.

Was it a slightly different way to proceed ? Yes

Was most of those states obeying by state Republicans rules and procedures set during the previous spring and summer? Yes

Was it counted by both parties and attorneys ? Yes

Was it the election certified after recounts by Republican ranking members and elected officials ? Yes

Were all those people in on it across all those states to kick trump out but not the rest of the slate "as they did better than the polls " ? That I would say No

That's where I come from .. if most of them would have been run by Democrats my alarm bells would be ringing .... specially with the results in Georgia unless we would be in 1956

trump claims he won the election because of all the people that attended his rallies. How’s that for brain damaged logic?

 

[Shakerod]

Didn't you hear? According to Trump, the 2016 election was fraudulent too. MILLIONS of ILLEGAL votes!

I guess nothing ever came of his Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity though... you'd think that would have caught the fraud in 2020 too...


By the way Shakerod -- "I heard Dominion has done this with many other countries." Shit like this is precisely why Dominion has filed suit against Fox and NewsMax (who just recently settled). I'd love to know what tinfoil hat YouTube channel your source is for this.

ZUCKERBERG MANIPULATION 🚨

Funded by $350 Million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, CTCL created a two-tiered election system that treated voters differently depending on whether they lived in Democrat or Republican areas.

In MI, $5,939,235 was awarded to jurisdictions where Clinton won & $402,878 where Trump won. In PA, $13,063,828 where Clinton won & $692,742 where Trump won. In GA, CTCL’s grants benefited 9 of the 10 counties with the greatest vote shifts for Democrats. In AZ, CTCL gave $3 million to Maricopa election officials.

CTCL initiated the use of drop boxes for ballot collection, significantly breaching the chain of custody & failing to maintain proper logs to ensure all improperly cast ballots were not counted.

CTCL paid election judges, ordered the consolidation of the counting facilities, paid election officials, dictated the policies that undermined state law, and gave direct access of state voter files to "leftist" groups like 'Rock The Vote'.

🇺🇸 t.me/ArizonaReporter

 

[Shakerod]

trump claims he won the election because of all the people that attended his rallies. How’s that for brain damaged logic?

There Were More Than 260K Duplicated and Adjudicated Ballots in Maricopa County

Maricopa County had 27,869 duplicated ballots & over 200,000 digitally adjudicated ballots according to court testimony by Elections Director Scott Jarrett during a hearing Dec 3 & 4, 2020. I believe all of those ballots all need to be fully forensically audited.

🇺🇸 t.me/ArizonaReporter

 

[masterblaster]

There Were More Than 260K Duplicated and Adjudicated Ballots in Maricopa County

Maricopa County had 27,869 duplicated ballots & over 200,000 digitally adjudicated ballots according to court testimony by Elections Director Scott Jarrett during a hearing Dec 3 & 4, 2020. I believe all of those ballots all need to be fully forensically audited.

🇺🇸 t.me/ArizonaReporter

how about you head down there with your adding machine and help out the cyber ninjas?

 

[musingaway]

ZUCKERBERG MANIPULATION 🚨

Funded by $350 Million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, CTCL created a two-tiered election system that treated voters differently depending on whether they lived in Democrat or Republican areas.

In MI, $5,939,235 was awarded to jurisdictions where Clinton won & $402,878 where Trump won. In PA, $13,063,828 where Clinton won & $692,742 where Trump won. In GA, CTCL’s grants benefited 9 of the 10 counties with the greatest vote shifts for Democrats. In AZ, CTCL gave $3 million to Maricopa election officials.

CTCL initiated the use of drop boxes for ballot collection, significantly breaching the chain of custody & failing to maintain proper logs to ensure all improperly cast ballots were not counted.

CTCL paid election judges, ordered the consolidation of the counting facilities, paid election officials, dictated the policies that undermined state law, and gave direct access of state voter files to "leftist" groups like 'Rock The Vote'.

🇺🇸 t.me/ArizonaReporter

Source?

 

[badbadboy]

Source?

Sadly all he will supply as a source is some tin foil hat organization that boils up conspiracy theories and people like Shakerod swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Trust me, I’ve tried and got no where. It’s easier on my head to not engage and ignore him. The more people not engaging him might make him look elsewhere to spin his unsupported numbers etc.

Considering he doesn’t contribute to Perb in terms of Reviews it won’t be a loss for the forum.

 

[Shakerod]

Good lord. The whole world is out to get Trump and his supporters? You're choosing what to believe and writing off everything else as liberal conspiracy. You're fanatical.

Good lord. The whole world is out to get Trump and his supporters? You're choosing what to believe and writing off everything else as liberal conspiracy. You're fanatical.

I totally agree with you that it was not a normal election and that we most likely will never see things done the same way.

I simply assume that since those disputed states are mostly run by Republicans including Pennsylvania with a republican Senate that they did their do diligence for the sake of fairness and for their own self preservation by double checking that the counts were in accordance to their voting list . Since both parties have representatives at the counting tables or facilities as well as having attorneys present for each party.

Was it a slightly different way to proceed ? Yes

Was most of those states obeying by state Republicans rules and procedures set during the previous spring and summer? Yes

Was it counted by both parties and attorneys ? Yes

Was it the election certified after recounts by Republican ranking members and elected officials ? Yes

Were all those people in on it across all those states to kick trump out but not the rest of the slate "as they did better than the polls " ? That I would say No

That's where I come from .. if most of them would have been run by Democrats my alarm bells would be ringing .... specially with the results in Georgia unless we would be in 1956

Now your catchi

Sadly all he will supply as a source is some tin foil hat organization that boils up conspiracy theories and people like Shakerod swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Trust me, I’ve tried and got no where. It’s easier on my head to not engage and ignore him. The more people not engaging him might make him look elsewhere to spin his unsupported numbers etc.

Considering he doesn’t contribute to Perb in terms of Reviews it won’t be a loss for the forum.

https://t.me/NesaraGesaraInfo/2095


All the info is there. You just have to find it.

 

[Shakerod]

Now your catchi

https://t.me/NesaraGesaraInfo/2095


All the info is there. You just have to find it.

Ducey and Kemp Actively Suppressed Efforts to Reveal the Truth About 11/3





Giuliani describes the Kemp/ Ducey betrayal on War Room: “Ducey was an enemy - he wasn’t just neutral.”





Governor Ducey was also the one who approved the Dominion contract. There were problems reported with Dominion before the 11/3 election, including reports that it was double and triple counting votes.





Kemp and Ducey “wouldn’t even step back and let their legislature do it. Both [the AZ and GA] legislatures would have voted that the election was fraudulent. These 2 guys stopped it. And there has to be a reason why.”





🇺🇸 t.me/ArizonaReporter