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LLLurkJ2

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OMG someone with a different opinion has invaded our safe space! We cannot have that! Help Mr Mod protect us. That sounds less like a Rottweiler and more like a Chihuahua. Geez you guys, just keep patting yourselves on the back and plugging your ears in this Democrat echo chamber as your party of choice ignores the reasons it lost the election but blames the voters and does absolutely no introspection as to why they lost.
Nobody has issue with someone having a different opinion here, its the constant derogatory language and trolling that gets people banned. Hell, i was engaging with 'lev' the whole time.
You should examine why your assumption is that someone got them banned rather than as a consquence of their own actions. They FAFO'd but you wanna blame the libz.
 

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The general levels of education in both Canada and the USA are shocking.
Literacy is very bad, how many people, even on here, have actually read a book lately?
When was the last time you saw someone reading a book?
I read on average a book every 3 days. I mostly read for entertainment... Sci Fi, Fantasy, but not exclusively. The last time i saw someone reading a book was today. My son and wife were reading books while I was reading mine.
 

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Just shows how corrupt two Obama-appointed, and one Biden-appointed judges are. Carroll fantasizes about how sexy rape is on TV, has accused other wealthy men of assault, can't remember the year of supposed assault, was found to be lying about the dress she wore, and the judges allowed an unrelated audio tape to be used as evidence of Trump's behaviour, while ignoring all her past behaviour, statements and lack of evidence.
 
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So much to parse, so imma break it up -

Where did I say that ivermectin actually worked on covid? The issue was that after Joe Rogan touted the drug a lot of people believed it to be a potentially less invasive and dangerous option to use rather than take an unproven vaccine which did not actually work either. To counter this mainstream media outlets who receive a huge bundle of advertising money from Big Pharma (the ads where they spend more time describing the potential side effects than the actual benefits) DID launch a smear campaign on the drug fearing it might cut into their profits and continually referred to it as horse paste on air when it was actually considered a wonder drug that not only resolved large parasitic issues in the bovine field but had many effective human uses as well.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/

It was anything but horse paste and won a Nobel Prize in 2015 but it worked about as well against covid as the basically untested vaccines which were minimally effective.
1) Why take invermectin *instead* of getting a covid vaccine if you're not trying to use it against covid? Youve refuted yourself in your statement.
2) The efficacy of covid vaccines is near 90% against covid , that of Invermectin is near 20% if you take poison level dosages. Hardly an 'unproven vaccine that does not really work either'
3) Joe Rogan says people shouldnt listen to Joe Rogan, because hes ' just an idiot '
4) The attack on invermectin was specifically against its use to combat covid , but here you are trying to defend the honor of the anti-parasitic drug in general. Nobody called its use in vetrenary or anti-parasitic settings into question, it was against its use as a drug to combat covid vs getting vaccinated (or completely isolating if you didnt want a vacine )
5) Invermectin was a defense pulled up by the 'just a cold' crowd. Allowing folks to take an ineffective 'cure' and then wander around mixing with the general population is worse than them having nothing imho....it does away with all percaution. The 'but im an exception' folks were literally killers.
6) I dont know if 'big pharma' acted out a campaign against invermecting using ad dollars to apply pressure.......but neither do you; your whole argument here is supposition with no basis is facts or support. I would be trying to show that butterflys cause hurricanes, or that white house policy is controlled by ghosts
 
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The same place you are: PERB
Just shows how corrupt two Obama-appointed, and one Biden-appointed judges are. Carroll fantasizes about how sexy rape is on TV, has accused other wealthy men of assault, can't remember the year of supposed assault, was found to be lying about the dress she wore, and the judges allowed an unrelated audio tape to be used as evidence of Trump's behaviour, while ignoring all her past behaviour, statements and lack of evidence.
Says the guy whose blood emerald and Putin sex toy gaydaddies stacked the US Supreme Court SPECIFICALLY to erode women’s rights.

What are you doing on a sex work forum if you hate women so much?
 

PolarPlesiosaur

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The same place you are: PERB
That explains the deja vu sense I got when reading his posts.
Oh that’s probably because basically all right wing arguments are the same:

“Non-white-straight-men are evil and need to be subjugated!”

“Gonna be a hard ‘no,’ babe.”

“BUT MY MANCHILD SELFSTYLED GODKINGS SAY SO! AND THEY DEFINITELY CARE ABOUT ME EVEN THOUGH ‘FACTA NON VERBA’!”

An endless spin cycle of wickedness that has been happening… for ever. But the hateful engine is beginning to seize and fascism’s* dying gasp gets more desperate as they realize that every time they try to drag back the clock of civilization, the hands don’t move as far back, or as fast as last time.

And I will never, ever stop fighting for a just world, because every student I have ever taught deserves to live in a better world than the bullshit I have to put up with.

*Because let’s be honest, the ideology of it is millennia older than 1930’s Italy - or even the Roman Republic Mussolini stole the fasces from.
 
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Just shows how corrupt two Obama-appointed, and one Biden-appointed judges are. Carroll fantasizes about how sexy rape is on TV, has accused other wealthy men of assault, can't remember the year of supposed assault, was found to be lying about the dress she wore, and the judges allowed an unrelated audio tape to be used as evidence of Trump's behaviour, while ignoring all her past behaviour, statements and lack of evidence.
Your bit about saying she fanatsized about it is particularily egregious - this has been the chauvinists response to rape accusations since forever, and its twisting what happened in the trial to suit your own preferred narrative in a very disgusting way. It's really fucking gross of you.

By your logic she was likely 'asking for it' by being dressed provactively somehow. All your 'points' are pure speculation and/or defamation.

For comparisons about purity ( which pro rapists always eem to require) - Trump himself couldnt remember the dates of his marriages, and if were not ignoring past behavior is most likely a rapist according to accusations by his second wife.

For those interested in facts : she didnt want to call it rape as she felt that it victimized her and that she fought. "I was not thrown on the ground and ravished, which... The word rape carries so many sexual connotations. This was not—this was not sexual. It just hurt. ... I think most people think of rape as being sexy"

Trump reponded by saying "actually indicated that she loved" the alleged assault and "said it was very sexy to be raped". Most likely clinched his conviction with that statement.
 
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PolarPlesiosaur

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The same place you are: PERB
Your bit about saying she fanatsized about it is particularily egregious - this has been the chauvinists response to rape accusations since forever, and its twisting what happened in the trial to suit your own preferred narrative in a very disgusting way. It's really fucking gross of you.
To play Devil’s advocate, research has shown that many feminine-presenting folk do fantasize about being “taken,” we’ll say. A fantasy is just that, however, without some very clear boundaries. My nesting partner is deeply kinky and just loves being thrown around and used, but I’m also checking in constantly that’s she’s good and feeling good the whole time.

A lot of dumbass boys listen to “RESPECTFULLY disrespect me” and somehow hear “women exist only to be disrespected.”

More importantly: consider the implications of cock throppler defending demonstrable rape, and therefore his opinion thereof. You’re trying to argue that trump is evil because rape is… with someone who is not only okay with, but is almost certainly guilty of, sexual assault himself in action if not justice.
 

PolarPlesiosaur

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The same place you are: PERB
OMG someone with a different opinion has invaded our safe space! We cannot have that! Help Mr Mod protect us. That sounds less like a Rottweiler and more like a Chihuahua. Geez you guys, just keep patting yourselves on the back and plugging your ears in this Democrat echo chamber as your party of choice ignores the reasons it lost the election but blames the voters and does absolutely no introspection as to why they lost.
You’re kind of proving his point.

Also “Democrat echo chamber”? You… you know this is a Canadian site, right? Just because trump thinks the US could take us in a fight doesn’t mean we’re American 😜
 

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Your bit about saying she fanatsized about it is particularily egregious - this has been the chauvinists response to rape accusations since forever, and its twisting what happened in the trial to suit your own preferred narrative in a very disgusting way. It's really fucking gross of you.
Her words, not mine. And who "absolutely loves" the location at which they were allegedly assaulted, and goes there all the time?...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcvNGX00LJk
 

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The victim blaming is getting old, homeslice.
And believing every accusation against Trump has ended for most people, bro. Where is your concern for the woman who accused Biden, but has never been given a voice?

There were two other women allowed to be heard in the Carroll case, neither of which had any proof, or brought forward any legal action.
 

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And believing every accusation against Trump has ended for most people, bro. Where is your concern for the woman who accused Biden, but has never been given a voice?

There were two other women allowed to be heard in the Carroll case, neither of which had any proof, or brought forward any legal action.
Keep in mind that he bragged about assaulting women, known to match his visits in the Junior Miss Universe change rooms when there were outfit changes,...

I could carry on but what's the point we all heard , witnessed and experienced his behavior on tapes of all kinds .

Because of that a prosecutor doesn't need to ramble or repeat the process as many times as another perpetrator...

His bragging and his long public history turned out not being at his advantage in this case .
 
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Oh that’s probably because basically all right wing arguments are the same:

“Non-white-straight-men are evil and need to be subjugated!”

“Gonna be a hard ‘no,’ babe.”

“BUT MY MANCHILD SELFSTYLED GODKINGS SAY SO! AND THEY DEFINITELY CARE ABOUT ME EVEN THOUGH ‘FACTA NON VERBA’!”

An endless spin cycle of wickedness that has been happening… for ever. But the hateful engine is beginning to seize and fascism’s* dying gasp gets more desperate as they realize that every time they try to drag back the clock of civilization, the hands don’t move as far back, or as fast as last time.

And I will never, ever stop fighting for a just world, because every student I have ever taught deserves to live in a better world than the bullshit I have to put up with.

*Because let’s be honest, the ideology of it is millennia older than 1930’s Italy - or even the Roman Republic Mussolini stole the fasces from.
well said. extreme political ideologies are mostly fabricated belief systems. they have difficulty standing up to the yardstick of the natural world (ie. truth).

the verbiage of the populist is cemented in age old biological dramas that even chimps and wolves understand. "Us vs Them", "Fear of the Outsider", "Who will be the alpha?", "Good vs Evil". sound familiar?

understanding the complexities of our civilization is conspicuously left out because most people will not understand the nuances of policy. Trump clearly doesn't understand any of it and many of the worlds best leaders will be fuzzy on it at best. it takes thousands of minds to make the wheels roll.

having worked with large bureaucracies and having a background in statistics and logic i try to emphasize that black-and-white thinking is a cognitive distortion. that the real world is grey everywhere. there are always exceptions to the rule. there are always outliers. and its not the only cognitive bias that gets wielded in politics.

but rational thought that has only been clearly formalized in the last couple hundred years is up against the story telling that has grouped individuals for 40k years. and individuals who have identified with a story will work ardently to reject truth.
 
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