USA Political Thread 2024
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Do you understand socialism? Secondly, I earned veteran care….with blood. Having said that, I do not use it. Because I contributed, via my former job, my previous employer funded most of my healthcare. I paid for it, but my compensation package included the company picking up whatever my contribution does not cover. Nobody is giving me anything! You refer to cookie crumbs and the top 10%, it’s their money and rich people should spend it as they see fit. If the money America gives to other countries is spent on Americans, we would not have homelessness and everyone could live a bit better. I am not advocating giving people anything, make them work for it and if they don’t work, they starve. Back to the American Indian example, or the generations of people that collect welfare. Some will choose to live off of scraps. Now I do believe in supporting our war veterans, everyone, wounded, or not, paid a price. However, just because a person is born, does not mean anyone should support them. In other words, earn it with something other than taking a breath.
BTW, Veterans Hospitals are not even close to the best care. in Iraq we called them chop shops. I got lucky, they shipped me to Germany. However, during my recovery, I figured I would get a dental exam. I was told I had two cavities. The next day after the fillings were completed, I discovered they filled the wrong teeth.
Why is socialism bad for a country?
One criticism of socialism is that, in any society where everyone holds equal wealth, there can be no material incentive to work because one does not receive rewards for a work well done. They further argue that incentives increase productivity for all people and that the loss of those effects would lead to stagnation.
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most people don't realize that all western countries are mixed economies. does Musk and Gates make their billions somehow by themselves? no, of course not! they are mostly astute owners. it is made for them by tens of thousands of people. it is made for them by other peoples capital. their businesses and labour use all of the infrastructure supplied by the "socialist" side of the mixed economy. roads, rail, electricity, public education etc etc.. the last thing the captains of industry want is for socialism to be replaced by capitalism. but they are fine with voters thinking that socialism is bad! it helps them reduce their financial burden of that infrastructure. can't tax the poor anymore? just borrow the money then! as long as the people in control of where all of that wealth is concentrating don't have to pay for it.
so, why is socialism bad for a country? you don't understand the economy you live in. it is both socialist and capitalist. it seeks to leverage the advantages of both while suppressing the disadvantages of both.
it is implicit in this "fair share" argument that all poor people are poor because they are lazy. i find it hilarious that this is never said outright. but its always implied. i myself have rarely met a person who wasn't willing to work hard when that work was rewarding financially or otherwise. but there simply isn't enough wealth opportunities in the market place for everyone to be rich. it simply doesn't work that way. if everyone was rich then inflation would eat the money and those with the least capital would be poor again. not sure why people don't get this concept.
currently in the US, 50% of the population have literally nothing compared to the GDP of the nation. and yet, the bottom 50% put most of the work into creating that GDP. sure, the movers and shakers of the economy should be rewarded heavily, but by how much is the question. when those movers and shakers must use the resources of the nation to build wealth then is it all theirs and theirs alone? when the nation reserves the right to draft a regular citizen and put them in the line of fire to protect the nations interests then doesn't that person have a right to something? the happiest societies in the world are those where the wealth gap is the smallest.
thats just a part of the social side. the economic side is that its human nature for individuals to horde wealth given the chance. no one wants to pay taxes. but those taxes are what made the US the most powerful nation on earth. those taxes made the US dollar the world currency. those tax dollars financed education and underwrites technical inovation. when the socialist side of the economy grows then the cake gets bigger. captialism has more room to grow because of the enlarged markets. the flip side is a bunch of olegarchs like in Russia. Russia is a great example. Russia is the second biggest oil producer, the biggest country... and their economy is the size of Spains! its because all wealth is concentrated into the hands of a few.
i've made my living from a corporation for 30 years. its ridiculous that i pay almost half the effective tax rate of the lowest paid "taxed at source" person. "taxed at source" is slavery. and i'm a litle guy. i can't afford to send my private jet to Italy twice a week to pick up Italian water for washing my hair.
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Trump has come out and said daylight savings time should be eliminated. I happen to agree with that, assuming he actually knows what daylight savings time is. Most of his dumb maga supporters seem confused about which time system he proposes to get rid of.
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Well written, but keep in mind, this is not a perfect world. Lazy, unmotivated is ALMOST the common denominator. Not all, almost! However like Forrest Gump said, life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get. The poor five year with cancer is a prime example. However, just because that kid has it, doesn’t mean all kids should get it. Life isn’t fair, but it isn’t fair to think someone else owes you for being born.
Yesterday was a great day for America, nasty Nancy broke her hip. I bet Joe is doing the Trump dance!
2] Social Darwinists believe that the strong should see their wealth and power increase, while the weak should see their wealth and power decrease. Social Darwinist definitions of the strong and the weak vary, and differ on the precise mechanisms that reward strength and punish weakness. Many such views stress competition between individuals in laissez-faire capitalism, while others, emphasizing struggle between national or racial groups, support eugenics, racism, imperialism and/or fascism.[3][4][5] Today, scientists generally consider social Darwinism to be discredited as a theoretical framework, but it persists within popular culture.[6][7]
i agree with you that life isn't fair. and indeed, there needs to be checks and balances in place for everyone. i would propose that what is more the common denominator is that humans will all pick the low hanging fruit. whether that be government support instead of working long hours at a job that doesn't pay anything more or tax breaks and child deduction cheques for rich people whose accountants have successfully spread their income.
its not a black and white selection. nothing is. funding education, work programs and housing does make a huge difference to the happiness of a society and is money well spent. funding the IRS to track down the biggest tax evaders is money well spent.
its the black/white ideologies that seek to manipulate peoples minds with thinking patterns that are not factual and promoted by all political parties that are the problem. that attempt to cloud the complexity of it.
Actually getting rid of daylight savings time would be fine for me. OMG, I like one of Trump's ideas! Has the Orange Turd turned me?!? Still, NO!
I get it! However countries should fund their own programs and not rely upon the U.S. for welfare! That is 100% my point. Funny fact, other countries do not follow politics in Canada. United States citizens could care less about Canadian and other countries politics, but every country follows AmerIcan politics. Why? Because of the welfare they receive from American taxpayers. Our previous politicians gave the store away, it was easier not to rock the boat. Trump won in a landslide because of many factors, one of which is, Americans are tired of getting screwed by other countries. NATO, The UN, Ukraine, Canada, Europe, Japan, Africa, all rely upon the American taxpayer. I don’t care if Canada offers “free healthcare“, I just don’t want to pay for it. Is that unreasonable? Think about it, only eleven NATO countries pay the required 2% of their GDP. Many of those deadbeat countries charge trade tariff’s and provide free healthcare. I am a duel citizen and lived in Toronto for ten years. I know from experience that most Canadians do not give it a second thought. Canada has recently started a publicity campaign on FOX telling Americans how the two countries should work together. That is laughable and not received very well. Unless Justin Trudeau gets his shit together, the CAD will be worth 50 cents to the USD. Hopefully Trump will fulfill his promise and make America first!
what did he lie about, specifically? i can only dig up claims that he lied about the source of the virus... that the US was funding "gain-of-functioning" research in China.
that IS NOT science. if he lied about such things he was not lying about "the science".
Hes just trying to correct for having looked directly at the sun that time.
well i guess you will be finding out just what benefits isolationist policies will do for the US. the world order after WWII was that the US would establish and police world trade, thus benefiting from globalization. the US is the established world leading economy because of its position as top of the heap. the majority of its "welfare" is in producing trade structure that benefits the US economy. Trump doesn't understand any of this. US citizens dramatic rise in the standard of living has everything to do with what you are calling "welfare".
as far as NATO is concerned... the US military and industrial complex is king... because of this "welfare".
i could go on and on about this.
You want the rest of the world to fund the American world order. Why should they do that? What is Canada prtotecting? Maybe we should pull out of Nato, let Putin have Europe.
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There can be agreements on defence that dont involve Americans trying to stomp their feet and gnash their teeth to get their way. Maybe America should lower its defence spending since they cant even pass audit?
Also, tell me who works harder : a Mexican immigrant picking watermelons i a Georgia field in the summer, or Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos? How are they rewarded? Your argument about this is bunk and if you claim the latter are 'working smarter' then why dont STEM guys get billions instrad of tweaked out internet trolls like Elon? Also why do the billionaires have to sprnd so much money to sway legislation?
Trump had played you for a sucker, hes not going to help anyone but him, his cronies, and his coked out sons and daughters. He made a travesty of the justice system in the states and has never been held accountable for all the people hes ripped off, defamed, and demeaned.
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There can be agreements on defence that dont involve Americans trying to stomp their feet and gnash their teeth to get their way. Maybe America should lower its defence spending since they cant even pass audit?
Also, tell me who works harder : a Mexican immigrant picking watermelons i a Georgia field in the summer, or Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos? How are they rewarded? Your argument about this is bunk and if you claim the latter are 'working smarter' then why dont STEM guys get billions instrad of tweaked out internet trolls like Elon? Also why do the billionaires have to sprnd so much money to sway legislation?
Trump had played you for a sucker, hes not going to help anyone but him, his cronies, and his coked out sons and daughters. He made a travesty of the justice system in the states and has never been held accountable for all the people hes ripped off, defamed, and demeaned.
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Trump is already threatening BRIC nations about dropping the US dollar! good luck to him trying to have it both ways...
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