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LLLurkJ2

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she will lose because she cannot bring herself to condemn genocide and ethnic cleansing,

they ask her about palestine and she responds about groceries. that is how much she cares

You think the USA hinges on Palastine when they've been instigating coups worldwide for decades? For most its just more blood mixed on their hands, Palastine will hold no special place.

And of you think Trump being re-elected is going to help Palestine more than yhe half assed attempts the Dems are doing, kiss Gaza goodbye if he get elected.
 

VanCityNewb

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lmao.. what exactly has she done. how naive do you have to be to believe this bs while they still send bombs to drop on refugee camps daily
She can't do anything by herself? But regardless, she's been working on it, so it's kind of dumb and ignorant to ignore that and paint things as other than what they are. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Because he is the guy I have a bet with and I was reminding him where things stood. He has been very quiet lately and I figured the best way to bring it to his attention would be to quote him on something. I was losing when I made the bet but in the last couple of weeks have regained ground and have drawn even and may possibly be ahead.

I did express a couple of opinions and indicated they were not factual. Thats what " I wonder" and IMHO mean. I also quoted facts on polling and the fact that no one voted for her, she was forced on the convention over others that had there been an actual primary who might have been more successful selections. Where is the issue? Are people not allowed to express opinions on here that do not fit your particular narrative?
Its not like I am the only person on here who offers smug recitations of supposed facts that are completely opinion based if thats what you believed it was but I can only presume you think they are "smug" because you do not agree with them.
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Fair rebuttal. I don't keep track of other people's bets so didn't factor that into my commentary. You're correct, I definitely do not agree with your interpretation of the facts. I included the word "smug" because that is how I read the tone of your post. Are you saying you don't feel smug and secure in your position?
You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, especially if it doesn't fit with mine, I find it entertaining to banter on the forum. I find it difficult to reconcile the criticism of Harris without the corresponding defense of Trump... the man is patently reprehensible. How do you defend him? Regardless of Harris' merits or weaknesses, how do you support the blatant failings of Trump? I could care less about Harris, in my mind anyone sane would vote Against Trump for anyone else.
That said, I find most of the criticisms of her laughable and easily defensible especially in comparison to Trump.
I'd say good luck with your bet... but that would be lying. Nothing personal but all my prayers are for Trump to definitively lose the election.
 

GentlemanJack69

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Fake news....You're wrong. You might want to do some research before you make comments.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-harris-election-betting-legal-kalshi.html
Ah my apologies.. I wasn't aware that the Federal appeal court had ruled otherwise earlier this month. It Was illegal. to be clear not "fake news" merely stale-dated. I don't keep current on Federal appeals. I also don't see the need to do research over every comment I make. I'm not bothered by admitting when I make a mistake. You don't learn by always being right and arguing when you're proven wrong. You learn by making mistakes and correcting them.
 

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she cant even be bothered to give a proper response when asked about it. she turns the question into something about groceries... that is the respect she has for those people.,,, one year of "working" to get a cease fire while people are bombed daily with US bombs, and she cant even hint that in her presidency anything would change
As someone who thinks Hamas needs to go *and* Isreal needs to stop killing women and children- why does this need to be the central issue of the US election? Did Palastine elect Hamas with thought to the US outcome?
 
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LLLurkJ2

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Ah my apologies.. I wasn't aware that the Federal appeal court had ruled otherwise earlier this month. It Was illegal. to be clear not "fake news" merely stale-dated. I don't keep current on Federal appeals. I also don't see the need to do research over every comment I make. I'm not bothered by admitting when I make a mistake. You don't learn by always being right and arguing when you're proven wrong. You learn by making mistakes and correcting them.
Not to mention the change was due to overturning Chevron in the SC
 

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Spies Writing America's News

Both the Times and CNN have fired multiple journalists over their opposition to Israeli actions or support for Palestinian liberation. In November, the Times’ Jazmine Hughes was forced out after she signed an open letter opposing genocide in Palestine. The newspaper terminated Hosam Salem’s contract the previous year after a pressure campaign from pro-Israel group Honest Reporting. And CNN anchor Marc Lamont Hill was abruptly fired in 2018 for calling for Palestinian liberation in a speech at the United Nations.

Large organizations like Axios, CNN and the New York Times obviously know who they are hiring. These are some of the most sought-after jobs in journalism, and hundreds of applicants are likely applying for each position. The fact that these organizations choose to select Israeli spies above everybody else raises serious questions about their journalistic credibility and their purpose.

A poster writes:
It is laughable yet tragic that the jew-controlled “mainstream media” in the United States of America blames Russia, China, and other countries, (but never Israel) for interfering in the USA election process.
Talk about “the pot calling the kettle black”…israel has been interfering in USA elections for a very long time.
Congressman Thomas Massie lifted the lid off the putrid jewish sewer called AIPAC and admitted that almost every congressman has an AIPAC “handler”.
My next statement seems harsh, but I don't care.
Every Jew in the USA must be treated with suspicion as according to jews, Israel comes first.
Just recently Lindsey Graham was on a television “news program” (I use that term loosely) where he was asked about hurricane relief efforts. He dismissed the question and pivoted right to israel, claiming that Israel was the most important issue of the day and that (((they))) needed our “help”.
So much for us Americans controlling our own destiny.
Congress could easily be defined as “Knesset West”, Israel being the seat of USA power.
Not good…

https://www.unz.com/article/revealed-the-israeli-spies-writing-americas-news/

Legacy of Empire. Britain handed Palestine over in the Balfour Agreement in exchange for financial backing to fight a war in Europe where 66,000 Canadians and Newfoundlanders died and 172,000 wounded.
 

VanCityNewb

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she cant even be bothered to give a proper response when asked about it. she turns the question into something about groceries... that is the respect she has for those people.,,, one year of "working" to get a cease fire while people are bombed daily with US bombs, and she cant even hint that in her presidency anything would change
Well, it's always amusing to hear from people who do nothing but complain online, that others actually doing real work on real solutions, aren't ever doing enough.
 

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Spies Writing America's News

Both the Times and CNN have fired multiple journalists over their opposition to Israeli actions or support for Palestinian liberation. In November, the Times’ Jazmine Hughes was forced out after she signed an open letter opposing genocide in Palestine. The newspaper terminated Hosam Salem’s contract the previous year after a pressure campaign from pro-Israel group Honest Reporting. And CNN anchor Marc Lamont Hill was abruptly fired in 2018 for calling for Palestinian liberation in a speech at the United Nations.

Large organizations like Axios, CNN and the New York Times obviously know who they are hiring. These are some of the most sought-after jobs in journalism, and hundreds of applicants are likely applying for each position. The fact that these organizations choose to select Israeli spies above everybody else raises serious questions about their journalistic credibility and their purpose.

A poster writes:
It is laughable yet tragic that the jew-controlled “mainstream media” in the United States of America blames Russia, China, and other countries, (but never Israel) for interfering in the USA election process.
Talk about “the pot calling the kettle black”…israel has been interfering in USA elections for a very long time.
Congressman Thomas Massie lifted the lid off the putrid jewish sewer called AIPAC and admitted that almost every congressman has an AIPAC “handler”.
My next statement seems harsh, but I don't care.
Every Jew in the USA must be treated with suspicion as according to jews, Israel comes first.
Just recently Lindsey Graham was on a television “news program” (I use that term loosely) where he was asked about hurricane relief efforts. He dismissed the question and pivoted right to israel, claiming that Israel was the most important issue of the day and that (((they))) needed our “help”.
So much for us Americans controlling our own destiny.
Congress could easily be defined as “Knesset West”, Israel being the seat of USA power.
Not good…

https://www.unz.com/article/revealed-the-israeli-spies-writing-americas-news/

Legacy of Empire. Britain handed Palestine over in the Balfour Agreement in exchange for financial backing to fight a war in Europe where 66,000 Canadians and Newfoundlanders died and 172,000 wounded.
i'd suggest that its important to separate being Jewish with Zionism. its the Zionism thats bad... very bad.
 

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America's response to what is happening in Gaza and what probably will happen in Lebanon can be summed up in one word...guilt. Western nations still seem to suffer from collective guilt over the holocaust and Israel takes full advantage of that. If this was a Catholic or Protestant nation, instead of Jewish, you think the world would be standing by and letting them get away with the shit they are getting away with, yes genocide.
 
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America's response to what is happening in Gaza and what probably will happen in Lebanon can be summed up in one word...guilt. Western nations still seem to suffer from collective guilt over the holocaust and Israel takes full advantage of that. If this was a Catholic or Protestant nation, instead of Jewish, you think the world would be standing by and letting them get away with the shit they are getting away with, yes genocide.
first off, you clearly don't have the capacity to tell the truth

genocide? you clearly don't understand the meaning, true meaning of the word

if Israel wanted to exterminate the people in Gaza, they would have done it by now

unlike the population in Gaza, West Bank, parts of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen, constantly say, repeatedly, back up with actions, as a stated goal, kill all Jews, anywhere, everywhere

go talk to anyone who's an expert in warfare, who isn't a biased POS, they will tell you that Israel's civilian deaths in Gaza is extremely low to combatants killed, compared to past ones, war

1.7% of the population, that's genocide?

really? what colour is the sky in your world? red?

you sound like the other useful idiots in the west, the U.N.

why don't you mention how they're all dying from starvation, a year plus on, how many out of the 2 million are dead from that supposed "starvation"?

never saw a video from Gaza in the last year? all those men walking around, some fat, hardly looking like the Jews at the concentration camps

ah, but, you're right, those Jews, I remember Grampa telling everyone how fucking fat they were when the soldiers rolled up in 45

those Jews, damn Jews, if only they believed in Jebus, like Homer



how many times have you spoken about the daily bombings from Lebanon into northern Israel? once? twice?

no other country in the world would put up with the shit that the Jews are subjected to, not one




others?

you mean like the world sitting on their hands in the Sudan?

Muslims again, how many hundreds of thousands have died there recently?

crickets

how about the 300,000 killed in Syria, by Arabs, Muslims? was that a genocide? what did the world do about that?

or did I miss the family dictatorship of 60 yrs decline and fall?

crickets

the Yazidis, rape, slavery, murders

crickets

MUSLIM ON MUSLIM DEATHS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, JUST LIKE BLACK ON BLACK CRIME IN THE U.S.

move along, nothing to see here

much like Hamas killing PA people when they took over Gaza






right is right, wrong is wrong

there is nothing right about Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Yemen, Syria

or their people, who support them, the majority do, you can't suppress populations that size without their support, not for the decades, multi decades

they've never known real democracy, in any of those places

they're not "innocent" they're willing participants, or sit by and take it









do you see any of your "genocide" people mentioning the hostages? I mean the Gazans?

mention the Palestinians trying to fight back against Hamas?

cause how many men are there? 2 million, half children, so 1 million, half men, how many are standing up? willing to go against their brothers, Myriam Mounsef, cousins, uncles, fathers, friends?

to end the war?

denounce Hamas even, speak against them?

point out where they are, hostages? you think they don't know where Hamas is hiding?

so the Jews can try to get their people back?

one? just one?

have you seen any of these "good" people do that?

one?

do you really think the Jews wouldn't stop in Gaza if they got every hostage back now?

that the world, the U.S. wouldn't force them into pulling out of Gaza?



and finally

if they weren't Jews, which is the only reason why they're taking the shit they're taking

you wouldn't be using "genocide"

against them


do you call it a genocide when the U.S went into Afghanistan?

Iraq?

maybe you can pull up that post for us
 

VanCityNewb

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first off, you clearly don't have the capacity to tell the truth

genocide? you clearly don't understand the meaning, true meaning of the word

if Israel wanted to exterminate the people in Gaza, they would have done it by now

unlike the population in Gaza, West Bank, parts of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen, constantly say, repeatedly, back up with actions, as a stated goal, kill all Jews, anywhere, everywhere

go talk to anyone who's an expert in warfare, who isn't a biased POS, they will tell you that Israel's civilian deaths in Gaza is extremely low to combatants killed, compared to past ones, war

1.7% of the population, that's genocide?

really? what colour is the sky in your world? red?

you sound like the other useful idiots in the west, the U.N.

why don't you mention how they're all dying from starvation, a year plus on, how many out of the 2 million are dead from that supposed "starvation"?

never saw a video from Gaza in the last year? all those men walking around, some fat, hardly looking like the Jews at the concentration camps

ah, but, you're right, those Jews, I remember Grampa telling everyone how fucking fat they were when the soldiers rolled up in 45

those Jews, damn Jews, if only they believed in Jebus, like Homer



how many times have you spoken about the daily bombings from Lebanon into northern Israel? once? twice?

no other country in the world would put up with the shit that the Jews are subjected to, not one




others?

you mean like the world sitting on their hands in the Sudan?

Muslims again, how many hundreds of thousands have died there recently?

crickets

how about the 300,000 killed in Syria, by Arabs, Muslims? was that a genocide? what did the world do about that?

or did I miss the family dictatorship of 60 yrs decline and fall?

crickets

the Yazidis, rape, slavery, murders

crickets

MUSLIM ON MUSLIM DEATHS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, JUST LIKE BLACK ON BLACK CRIME IN THE U.S.

move along, nothing to see here

much like Hamas killing PA people when they took over Gaza






right is right, wrong is wrong

there is nothing right about Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Yemen, Syria

or their people, who support them, the majority do, you can't suppress populations that size without their support, not for the decades, multi decades

they've never known real democracy, in any of those places

they're not "innocent" they're willing participants, or sit by and take it









do you see any of your "genocide" people mentioning the hostages? I mean the Gazans?

mention the Palestinians trying to fight back against Hamas?

cause how many men are there? 2 million, half children, so 1 million, half men, how many are standing up? willing to go against their brothers, Myriam Mounsef, cousins, uncles, fathers, friends?

to end the war?

denounce Hamas even, speak against them?

point out where they are, hostages? you think they don't know where Hamas is hiding?

so the Jews can try to get their people back?

one? just one?

have you seen any of these "good" people do that?

one?

do you really think the Jews wouldn't stop in Gaza if they got every hostage back now?

that the world, the U.S. wouldn't force them into pulling out of Gaza?



and finally

if they weren't Jews, which is the only reason why they're taking the shit they're taking

you wouldn't be using "genocide"

against them


do you call it a genocide when the U.S went into Afghanistan?

Iraq?

maybe you can pull up that post for us
What ridiculously horrible way to defend the reprehensible actions of Israel in the region.

This is beyond shameless...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c245n75587vo.amp
 
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Larry's Torch

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Anyone else getting the feeling this thread needs a serious pruning?
Or perhaps a restart?
Maybe prune out a few of the posters?
WTF is wrong with this place?
Are the people who make money off of this site wondering if the ladies are comfortable being associated with all of this?
 
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masterpoonhunter

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Anyone else getting the feeling this thread needs a serious pruning?
Or perhaps a restart?
Maybe prune out a few of the posters?
WTF is wrong with this place?
Are the people who make money off of this site wondering if the ladies are comfortable being associated with all of this?
I diligently apply the ignore button when posters are clearly trolls. If I hit the unignore side of that, about a third maybe up to half of the posts come back into view. Not as bad but similar in the Canadian political thread. There are a few trolls that spend a lot of time typing, not that what they write is informative but man do they type away!
Nothing new, trolls have inhabited news groups ad infinitum. Just treat their shit as just that, shit spewed as their cranial output is directly connected to their rectal orifices.
 

MB Mod

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Anyone else getting the feeling this thread needs a serious pruning?
Or perhaps a restart?
Maybe prune out a few of the posters?
WTF is wrong with this place?
Are the people who make money off of this site wondering if the ladies are comfortable being associated with all of this?
This thread has been pruned many times, the version I see is probably 10 pages longer than what you see.
 

Larry's Torch

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I diligently apply the ignore button when posters are clearly trolls. If I hit the unignore side of that, about a third maybe up to half of the posts come back into view. Not as bad but similar in the Canadian political thread. There are a few trolls that spend a lot of time typing, not that what they write is informative but man do they type away!
Nothing new, trolls have inhabited news groups ad infinitum. Just treat their shit as just that, shit spewed as their cranial output is directly connected to their rectal orifices.
I get it. But keeping that crap around only attracts more flies. Typing a toxic phrase into google can bring an entire group of trolls or people who believe it and want to spread it. Doesn't take much for things to get worse.
 

Larry's Torch

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This thread has been pruned many times, the version I see is probably 10 pages longer than what you see.
Yeah, I know it gets cleaned up occasionally. Not complaining about the mod's work. Just wondering how bad it has to get.
 

Crookedmember

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Yeah, I know it gets cleaned up occasionally. Not complaining about the mod's work. Just wondering how bad it has to get.
It's actually pretty tame compared to the US election campaign. Have you read the details of Trump's MSG rally? Have you heard Trump referring to his opponent as a 'cunt' and 'bitch?'

It is weird though that some men on an escort review board are enthusiastically supporting a rapist and misogynist who took away the rights of millions of women to make decisions about their own bodies. Weird as fuck.

But I guess it does help the ladies decide who they should avoid seeing.

It's a public service of sorts.
 
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