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se7landrover97

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I find it humorous that our friends on the right are having trouble finding Kamala.

She's easy to find. She's at a rally every day at venues holding tens of thousands of people. Sometimes two per day.

Meanwhile, elderly Donold Trump is puttering around Mar-a-Lardo. Depressed, crapping his diapers, and throwing ketchup at the walls.
Thats what I said to one of our friends on the other side. And he just answered back by saying “ where is Kamala “ perhaps some people hare think that if you keep saying something over and over again, just like OT Donald Dumb or Dump, others will think it must be true. They don't realize they are only making themselves look like clowns like their guy. 😂
 

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Meanwhile in trump world today

"I'm entitled to personal attacks on Harris" - - trump

" you wanna see a bird cemetery, just go under a windmill" - - trump

As I said earlier she doesn't need to speak much, everyday this goof of a turd continues to speak out of his ass and show how stupid he is

Mark it now... He will claim stolen election when he loses
 
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"She was convicted of a well planned election tampering conspiracy".

Fact check...FALSE.

That's not what happened.

She was convicted of engaging in a security breach to advance a false conspiracy theory of election fraud.

So you were kinda sorta close but not really.

I personally think she's an idiot and I have no problem with her getting whatever punishment she deserves.

Let's try to keep our FACTS straight though.
Ahh the language police. I guess the other people she used key card to enter the secure area with illegally were just passing strangers in the night doing their own illegal stuff, completely seperate and unconnected to the meetings and phone calls they held in the days proceeding.

But its not like you'd try to obfuscate things with your talk of facts because you have an adgenda right? Right?
 
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LLLurkJ2

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You mean like a high school pep rally. I dare her to do an interview with Fox.
Trump went to enemy territory with the black journalist group.
Harris will only answer soft questions from msnbc, abc, cbs.
You mean like Trump was willing to debate as scheduled?

And ' enemy territory'? Maybe thats how you view *ALL* people of color, but I think you really mean that he did some media where they didnt kiss his ass constantly, and every second word wasn't a lie.
 

LLLurkJ2

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Where's Kamala?

Everyone's asking.

They're keeping her under wraps, for obvious reasons.

Eventually she has to come up for air.

When she does and she opens her mouth...

Game over.
Just about the facts again? Or entirely speculation in support of Trump as a candidate?

Maybe she's got shit to do as she's still VP. Maybe she's sucking the juice out of babies in the basement of a pizza parlor. Or maybe shes reading your comment and laughing too hard.
 

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If Fox can't find her maybe they could ask some of the tens of thousands of rally attendees.
Or look at other networks, there were four carrying today's rally.
How does having rallies with thousands of people qualify as being kept under wraps?
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She is in Colorado - a state where convicted felons, felons awaiting sentencing or felons on parole can vote - thanks to Democrats :)
A convicted felon cannot vote if they are awaiting sentencing or are incarcerated.
They can not vote until they have completed their sentence.
Once they have completed their sentence they can vote.
That's the whole idea of a sentence, you do your time, get out, and resume normal life.
See question #4, you are eligible to vote if you are on bond but not if you have been convicted.

https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/FAQs/VotingAndConviction.html
 
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There is a secret recording just came out revealing project 2025 plans. And JD yet again made another dumb comment about women. 🤦‍♂️ I think they should just hand over the presidency and spare the American people of this comical duo.
Unfortunately, 10s of millions of yanks are stupid enough to believe Trunt's snake oil sales pitch.
 

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Is there something we don't know about the polls? Here are Harris's latest plans.
First is the 25k given to new house buyers. If that goes all homes will simply increase in price by 25k asking. So no money goes is given to the buyer only higher home prices and government debt.

Now today she is going soviet union style and says she wants grocery prices to go lower by stopping price gouging. Does the dolt realize supermarkets operate on less than 2 percent margin? Why not go after you left leaning , liberal tech companies than have 40 to 60 percent profit margins.
You don't throw idiot plans like that unless you are behind. There are no moderates or independent voters dumb enough to vote for this.
 

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Is there something we don't know about the polls? Here are Harris's latest plans.
First is the 25k given to new house buyers. If that goes all homes will simply increase in price by 25k asking. So no money goes is given to the buyer only higher home prices and government debt.

Now today she is going soviet union style and says she wants grocery prices to go lower by stopping price gouging. Does the dolt realize supermarkets operate on less than 2 percent margin? Why not go after you left leaning , liberal tech companies than have 40 to 60 percent profit margins.
You don't throw idiot plans like that unless you are behind. There are no moderates or independent voters dumb enough to vote for this.
Just to be clear.. I am not responding to this as a political statement.. I'm Canadian and don't care who Americans vote for (I do have opinions but am not interested in the vitriol that is displayed in the thread being directed at me), however... there are flaws in your logic...

Firstly, having an additional 25k in down payment is a much greater advantage than an increase of 25k in purchase cost would be a disadvantage. Even if house prices were to automatically go up by 25k in asking price, the addition of 25k in down payment will allow customers to enter the housing market that wouldn't have been able to before - driving market volume, taxes, economic growth, a net gain for the government and a means for lower income individuals to participate in the housing market. Whether this is a good use of government money is not for me to judge.. but economically it would have a positive impact for lower income households and likely a net gain for the government in terms of economic growth and tax revenue. I am not familiar with the USA in particular, but the macro economics of the housing market is something I am very familiar with in Canada.
This is why in Canada CMHC was put into place (to allow citizens with a lower down payment enter the housing market) and you'll note that Canada has had similar programs to help people get into the housing market. It's simply good politics to help people participate in the housing market as it drives economic growth, taxes, government fees etc. Good for people, good for the government.

Secondly Grocery store margins are historically 1-3 percent (that isn't why they're profitable).. Grocery stores don't make money on margin.. they make money on volume. A simple example would be that if item A cost $100 and they made $1 on the sale, you would think that was bad right?... 1% return... but the reality is that they make money on volume by selling 10 billion of item A therefore making $100,000. It's the sheer volume of sales that make it extremely profitable. It's a matter of the incredibly high volume of sales that they make.. price gouging is just a bonus that if removed will affect their bottom line in a negligible manner. The net effect would be to lower prices on a small percentage of items that are overpriced.. again a benefit for lower income households where the cost of food is a serious issue.

Both of these examples seem to be geared to help lower income Americans. I don't see any reason to criticize them.
 

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Kamala has been the unelected candidate for a month, and has yet to sit down to any interviews with the press. Hidin' Biden is now Hidin' Harris. Holding rallies is not answering questions.

She has finally come out with some Soviet-era-style policies. Federal price controls on food. Any economist with basic understanding of supply and demand will tell you how that will end. She must have been talking to Jagmeet.

Handing out $25,000 in government money to first-time home buyers? Another inflationary tactic that will be abused, as well as get added to the purchase price. And get ready to watch the defaults on home loans a few years from now.

The Democrat plan seems to be just hand out more "free" money to buy votes.
 

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Kamala has been the unelected candidate for a month, and has yet to sit down to any interviews with the press. Hidin' Biden is now Hidin' Harris. Holding rallies is not answering questions.

She has finally come out with some Soviet-era-style policies. Federal price controls on food. Any economist with basic understanding of supply and demand will tell you how that will end. She must have been talking to Jagmeet.

Handing out $25,000 in government money to first-time home buyers? Another inflationary tactic that will be abused, as well as get added to the purchase price. And get ready to watch the defaults on home loans a few years from now.

The Democrat plan seems to be just hand out more "free" money to buy votes.
No comment on the "Hidin" question - don't care as that's a political concern and I don't want to get dragged into that. but...

Did you read my post directly above, or the one I replied to? If you just posted blindly without reading I apologize but it seems like you just ignored the information provided. Simply restating the point is not refuting the rebuttal, you need to address the statement and provide either a concession to the correctness of the logic, or another point of information that supports your position that I may not know, so that I can consider your point to see if your position has greater merit than mine.

A basic understanding of supply and demand won't help anyone understand the impact of the mentioned policies.. you actually need to be an economist who understands more than the basics of economics. It's actually a pretty complex environment. I concede that government intervention in pricing may not be a desirable political response, but your assertion of how it will end is not as simple as you're stating.
 

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Just to be clear.. I am not responding to this as a political statement.. I'm Canadian and don't care who Americans vote for (I do have opinions but am not interested in the vitriol that is displayed in the thread being directed at me), however... there are flaws in your logic...

Firstly, having an additional 25k in down payment is a much greater advantage than an increase of 25k in purchase cost would be a disadvantage. Even if house prices were to automatically go up by 25k in asking price, the addition of 25k in down payment will allow customers to enter the housing market that wouldn't have been able to before - driving market volume, taxes, economic growth, a net gain for the government and a means for lower income individuals to participate in the housing market. Whether this is a good use of government money is not for me to judge.. but economically it would have a positive impact for lower income households and likely a net gain for the government in terms of economic growth and tax revenue. I am not familiar with the USA in particular, but the macro economics of the housing market is something I am very familiar with in Canada.
This is why in Canada CMHC was put into place (to allow citizens with a lower down payment enter the housing market) and you'll note that Canada has had similar programs to help people get into the housing market. It's simply good politics to help people participate in the housing market as it drives economic growth, taxes, government fees etc. Good for people, good for the government.

Secondly Grocery store margins are historically 1-3 percent (that isn't why they're profitable).. Grocery stores don't make money on margin.. they make money on volume. A simple example would be that if item A cost $100 and they made $1 on the sale, you would think that was bad right?... 1% return... but the reality is that they make money on volume by selling 10 billion of item A therefore making $100,000. It's the sheer volume of sales that make it extremely profitable. It's a matter of the incredibly high volume of sales that they make.. price gouging is just a bonus that if removed will affect their bottom line in a negligible manner. The net effect would be to lower prices on a small percentage of items that are overpriced.. again a benefit for lower income households where the cost of food is a serious issue.

Both of these examples seem to be geared to help lower income Americans. I don't see any reason to criticize them.
Happy to be critical of both these examples. Neither of these concepts will work in the long-term.

So you've given someone 25k for a down payment. Now they have to keep making the monthly mortgage payments.

Many of these people would have had trouble qualifying for mortgages in the first place because of their incomes.

Is the government going to top up their incomes as well? Probably not.

Many of them (not all) will default on their mortgages and we're back to square one.

It's another misguided attempt to buy votes

Regarding volume and "gouging"

How do you remove volume from the equation? You can't.

Who decides the price of something?

Not the government.

Prices are decided by the seller and the buyer. It's called supply and demand.

Supply and demand is kind of a golden rule. It's always been that way and it's never going to change.

Governments have tried and have never succeeded.

Harris and the Democrats aren't proposing these things to help people, they're proposing them in an attempt to get elected.

Lastly, the "government" doesn't have any money of its own.

It comes from taxpayers.
 
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