USA Political Thread 2024

[Equity Market investor]

Dementia? Really?

At least with Trump... he holds speeches to the public, doesn't shake hands with ghosts, doesn't freezes at podium, answers questions when given, doesn't look like a plastic mannequin, doesn't walk like he's got a 2 by 4 up is ass, he doesn't stutter when speaking, you can understand Trump when he speaks....anything else I may be missing ....the important things...🍺 🤔

And watch Trump in the next few weeks. He is degrading faster than Biden. Dementia is coming for him...................

 

[Equity Market investor]

Vice Versa too. Works both ways.

Life will continue but just under an ugly atmosphere. The Turd will always spew his crap and his followers will swallow whole. Things will get worse until it all breaks.

 

[Equity Market investor]

100% agree. Im having fun with this thread. I think it's hilarious.

This disussion is pointless, I stopped taking it seriosuly long ago.

 

[dare.devil]

Well, I have to sign off for a while, no more time to waste. Going to Europe for seven weeks. Next week I will be putting flowers on the graves on my relatives. Those who suffered under the Nazis and those later who were persecuted by the Communists. And I will thinking of some of you. I need to recharge my batteries. Because one needs strength against vile evil!

Have a safe trip, they will be in my prayers for eternal peace.

 

[Equity Market investor]

We're having fun in ways with this thread with jabs here and there 🙂, but, what your doing here is what really matters in life. The real thing. People.

Prayers and be safe with travel. God bless 🙌 🙂👍

Well, I have to sign off for a while, no more time to waste. Going to Europe for seven weeks. Next week I will be putting flowers on the graves on my relatives. Those who suffered under the Nazis and those later who were persecuted by the Communists. And I will thinking of some of you. I need to recharge my batteries. Because one needs strength against vile evil!

 

[angry anderson]

'Deeply unwell' Trump is being given a total pass for nonstop mental lapses: analysis (msn.com)

 

[se7landrover97]

I dont know why you'd spend so much time typing up logical valid responses as you'll only be met with the Republican talking point of the day they were programmed with. I stopped litening to their deluded adulations of the criminal narcassist scumbag Trump a long time ago.😐

... I don't know, sir. Perhaps I wanted to understand how come there are people that still support this asshole. Is there something about this guy that meets the eyes? Maybe I am hopping they have a valid reason, where they're coming from? Maybe to see their point of views? But after several weeks trying my best to make a sound logical argument, with factual events and situation, I am beginning to think these people are close minded and just follow this asshole blindly. Can't they not see that the guy is a total loser every which way you look at it? They cant
even mention one thing that this guy has done for America. Nothing! Zerooo! 🤦‍♂️

 

[se7landrover97]

Life will continue but just under an ugly atmosphere. The Turd will always spew his crap and his followers will swallow whole. Things will get worse until it all breaks.

They believe in polls to make themselves feel good. Polls aren't reliable. H Clinton was leading and she lost, There was supposed to be a red wave in "22 but it didn't happen and threw the house into chaos. 🤣 And now they think and hope the polls will be right this time around? Wake up! Stop dreaming. It ain't going to happen.

 

[sexpanther69]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/13/politics/video/america-not-democracy-republic-trump-maga-digvid

Seems rude to actual idiots to call these sheep idiots

 

[overdone]

you can understand Trump when he speaks....anything else I may be missing ....the important things...🍺 🤔

reality?

understand him when he speaks? really?

you clearly haven't seen him talking enough

I've seen clips of him, numerous, where he's confused, making no sense, rambling over and over, not pronouncing/enunciating properly

he's no better than Biden on this subject, neither should be running

sad to say but the nut job with the brain worm could run around them in a debate

 

[87112]

It's pretty hard to get a job after age 50 unless you want to be President than 70 is young for the job. Why does America currently have a fetish for very old Presidents.

 

[masterblaster]

They believe in polls to make themselves feel good. Polls aren't reliable. H Clinton was leading and she lost, There was supposed to be a red wave in "22 but it didn't happen and threw the house into chaos. 🤣 And now they think and hope the polls will be right this time around? Wake up! Stop dreaming. It ain't going to happen.

Hillary lost in 2016 because Robert Mercer and Cambridge Analytica manipulated voters through Facebook that had been determined were susceptible to suggestions they should vote for trump in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

 

[uncleg]

It's pretty hard to get a job after age 50 unless you want to be President than 70 is young for the job. Why does America currently have a fetish for very old Presidents.

Hey that sounds like ageism....... Some of my best times were with a younger lady that had a fetish for older men...

 

[Equity Market investor]

I see him when he's on Fox. In fact, he was on HANNITY just over 1 week ago. He's sounded fine to me. We'll find out on the 1st debate which is June 27th. Hear for yourself> but I do agree with you on that both shouldn't be running. They gotta vote for the lesser of 2 evils in this case. Goes to show how screwed up America is.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6354398823112

reality?

understand him when he speaks? really?

you clearly haven't seen him talking enough

I've seen clips of him, numerous, where he's confused, making no sense, rambling over and over, not pronouncing/enunciating properly

he's no better than Biden on this subject, neither should be running

sad to say but the nut job with the brain worm could run around them in a debate

 

[GentlemanJack69]

1. Stay Informed

• News Sources: Regularly check reputable news sources like BBC, Reuters, NPR, and major newspapers such as The New York Times or The Washington Post.
• Fact-Checking: Use fact-checking websites like Snopes, FactCheck.org, and PolitiFact to verify claims.

2. Understand Key Issues

• Economy: Inflation, unemployment rates, taxation, and economic policies.
• Healthcare: Policies on healthcare reform, insurance, and public health.
• Environment: Climate change policies, renewable energy initiatives, and environmental regulations.
• Social Issues: Stances on immigration, education, LGBTQ+ rights, and racial equality.
• Foreign Policy: Relations with China, Russia, NATO, and international trade agreements.

3. Know the Candidates

• Major Parties: Familiarize yourself with the platforms and key proposals of the major Democratic and Republican candidates.
• Third Parties: Don't ignore third-party candidates, as they can influence the election dynamics.

4. Engage Respectfully

• Listen Actively: Understand others' viewpoints before responding.
• Stay Calm: Political discussions can be heated. Stay composed and respectful.
• Avoid Personal Attacks: Focus on policies and facts rather than personal attributes of candidates or participants.

5. Use Reliable Data

• Polls: Look at polling data from reliable sources like Gallup, Pew Research, and FiveThirtyEight.
• Studies: Refer to studies and reports from respected institutions and think tanks.

6. Critical Thinking

• Bias Recognition: Be aware of your own biases and those of the sources you read.
• Logical Fallacies: Avoid and recognize logical fallacies in arguments, such as ad hominem attacks, straw man arguments, and false dilemmas.

7. Be Open to Learning

• New Information: Be willing to update your views based on new, credible information.
• Diverse Perspectives: Engage with a variety of perspectives to broaden your understanding.

8. Get Involved

• Volunteering: Consider volunteering for campaigns or political organizations you support.
• Voting: Ensure you are registered to vote and understand your voting options.

9. Leverage Technology

• Social Media: Use social media wisely to follow candidates, join discussions, and stay updated.
• Apps and Tools: Utilize political apps and tools that provide information on candidates and issues.

10. Stay Safe Online

• Privacy: Be mindful of sharing personal information in political forums.
• Cybersecurity: Protect your accounts with strong passwords and be cautious of misinformation and phishing attempts.

This is the best post I've seen on this thread. Well articulated. Valid information. Not presented as an attack on anyone. Kudos JackPhilip. (excellent name by the way)

 

[thevalleydude]

This is the best post I've seen on this thread. Well articulated. Valid information. Not presented as an attack on anyone. Kudos JackPhilip. (excellent name by the way)

I would agree with it all except for the first one.. Those are all legacy media sites and are NOT reliable sources. They all have an agenda and have been politicized. eg NPR who just fired an editor who complained about the non stop left wing bias even though he himself was a Democrat. You may note that every source he mentions here either has either a hard or soft left wing bias.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/npr-editorial

You should always consider the bias inherent in the source. All Sides is a good determinant.

Edited to note....the same applies to "fact checkers" Most of them are soft or hard left

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/fact-check-bias-chart

As the vast majority on here leans left its pretty easy to understand why.

 

[thevalleydude]

You took a time to write so much on the topic with many good points. What will you get in return is, a crazy meme or orange turd bashing. This disussion is pointless, I stopped taking it seriosuly long ago.

I got what you predicted....and I expected. Nobody addressing the fact that 3/4 of Americans and over 1/2 of Democrats believe they are heading in the wrong direction or why minority groups are abandoning the Democrats in droves. And whoever is President under an inflationary cycle is doomed to defeat. Its not all Bidens fault.. but much of it is for not seeing the issue coming and addressing it instead of piling on more debt. When he took office inflation was 1.9% . Well...actually none of it is Bidens fault. Anyone who believes that he is really running the country instead of some faceless cartel of people behind the scenes should have their heads examined. They just send him out with notes to read off a teleprompter and he can't even get that right.

But agreed.... I have learned going along that this is not a thread for serious debate and its hard to take anyone seriously on here and get angry about it....its more about memes and rants...sort of a place to let off steam.

It may not be a great board for knowledgeable political discussion but for its main purpose it is a very valuable and helpful resource.

 

[Equity Market investor]

Well said Valleydude. To be honest. I'm surprised this thread is still continuing given the direction it's taken. Regardless of what you say, show facts etc. You will never convince a person(s) who has hatred toward someone. You'll never convince them --- it's a dead end road. And, you're correct with your assessment below by saying " 3/4 of Americans and over 1/2 of Democrats believe they are heading in the wrong direction ".

I participate in the financial markets for over 3 decades now. There are Analysts over in Europe and North America who have said #1) similar statements to what you posted here and #2) the current U.S Administration would be beneficial it was replaced in the oval office in this upcoming election. Not all but there are quite a few I've heard.
I much rather side with opinions who are trained university skilled people, than with people who hold hatred as an agenda or have a 1 avenue thought process. Wait until the elections are over. That is my suggestion. Otherwise, continue here down a road to nowhere.

PS...I Don't live in the U.S so I don't lose sleep over it. There are bigger fish to fry in life that squabbling over these 2 old men. Unless you're an old senior yourself then, eh, you have something in common . Not me thankfully...yet. Several years away still.

I got what you predicted....and I expected. Nobody addressing the fact that 3/4 of Americans and over 1/2 of Democrats believe they are heading in the wrong direction or why minority groups are abandoning the Democrats in droves. And whoever is President under an inflationary cycle is doomed to defeat. Its not all Bidens fault.. but much of it is for not seeing the issue coming and addressing it instead of piling on more debt. When he took office inflation was 1.9% . Well...actually none of it is Bidens fault. Anyone who believes that he is really running the country instead of some faceless cartel of people behind the scenes should have their heads examined. They just send him out with notes to read off a teleprompter and he can't even get that right.

But agreed.... I have learned going along that this is not a thread for serious debate and its hard to take anyone seriously on here and get angry about it....its more about memes and rants...sort of a place to let off steam.

It may not be a great board for knowledgeable political discussion but for its main purpose it is a very valuable and helpful resource.

 

[dare.devil]

Well said Valleydude. To be honest. I'm surprised this thread is still continuing given the direction it's taken. Regardless of what you say, show facts etc. You will never convince a person(s) who has hatred toward someone. You'll never convince them --- it's a dead end road. And, you're correct with your assessment below by saying " 3/4 of Americans and over 1/2 of Democrats believe they are heading in the wrong direction ".

I participate in the financial markets for over 3 decades now. There are Analysts over in Europe and North America who have said #1) similar statements to what you posted here and #2) the current U.S Administration would be beneficial it was replaced in the oval office in this upcoming election. Not all but there are quite a few I've heard.
I much rather side with opinions who are trained university skilled people, than with people who hold hatred as an agenda or have a 1 avenue thought process. Wait until the elections are over. That is my suggestion. Otherwise, continue here down a road to nowhere.

PS...I Don't live in the U.S so I don't lose sleep over it. There are bigger fish to fry in life that squabbling over these 2 old men. Unless you're an old senior yourself then, eh, you have something in common . Not me thankfully...yet. Several years away still.

Absolutely, no matter how much we discuss about it and whine about those two post retirement aged leaders, its upto American voters to decide.

I am just keeping myself informed because US politics impacts the world and Canada the most.

 

[Equity Market investor]

Yes, you are correct on this.

I am just keeping myself informed because US politics impacts the world and Canada the most.