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I wouldn't go that far. Currently, the baby is being thrown out with the bath water. Everything is out of control at this stage of the game. One might think that this is part of the plan which is to have everyone go against each other much more than it already is. Civil war? That remains to be seen. What I'm reading on social media sites is that there are a lot who feel that something bad is brewing. Who knows...time will tell.

Masterpiece theater is what this now is. And that is concrete.



I hope I am wrong on this. I honestly think in America there will never again be a Republican president. Trump has a 10% chance of winning in November.
That Dem train, man that got every weapon possible going for them the media, DOJ, CIA, FBI, Tech billionaires, movie stars, Ivy League schools.
 

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Have they figured out where covid originated?

I heard it was China.

That's probably a conspiracy theory though.
Yes , totally makes sense for China to have created a flu to fuck over the world economy given that they were the major beneficiaries for the decade prior. Kill your customers is a totally profitable outcome.

This conspiracy bullshit is so stupid. Maybe it originated in a WHO lab as gain of function research, possibly.But of China, or Russia, or anyone wanted to create pathogen against their enemies they have the capability to make it much more leathal, why would they fuck around with half assed shit?
 

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Yes , totally makes sense for China to have created a flu to fuck over the world economy given that they were the major beneficiaries for the decade prior. Kill your customers is a totally profitable outcome.

This conspiracy bullshit is so stupid. Maybe it originated in a WHO lab as gain of function research, possibly.But of China, or Russia, or anyone wanted to create pathogen against their enemies they have the capability to make it much more leathal, why would they fuck around with half assed shit?
Did I say that the Chinese created Covid and then on purpose unleashed it on the world as part of some evil plan?

No, I didn't.

You just did.

You seem very confused.
 

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It was established very early on that the virus originated in Wuhan China.

Some people (the smart ones) said maybe we shouldn't be allowing people from China to enter our country until we figure this out.

What was the reaction of many top Democrats and their friends in the media?

Outrageous!

Xenophobia!

Racism!

So a bad situation was made a lot worse.

This will come as news to you because you are notoriously uninformed.
"You forgot Jewish Space Lasers and the China flu".

That's your quote.

I just responded to it.

Maybe you're confused about being confused.

Maybe take a break.
Ah the old tried and true ' im not saying it, but im hearing things' . I think YOU may be confused that we cant see past your bs pal.
 
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Ah the old tried and true ' im not saying it, but im hearing things' . I think YOU may be confused that we cant see past your bs pal.
I just responded to your post.

If you don't make dumb posts about China, I won't have to respond to them.
 

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Should i follow your logic, claim everything you post is dumb, and respond to it? You're trying to use dog whistles left right and center but sound like a slide flute.
I don't own a dog whistle or a slide flute.

Thanks though.
 

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Orange Turd was given all the opportunity to defend himself. But he failed to provide even a tiny shred of evidence that he's innocent. No witnesses, no documentary evidences, he did not even testify. Nothing! How can a jury not find him guilty? Impossible!! So to say this is a rigged trial is idiotic, and just plain nonsense to say the least. Even his lawyer when ask why they did not call Keith Schiller or Weisselberg to testify. In his interview on CNN, he practically admitted that calling these two witnesses will only help the prosecution. 🤦‍♂️ Por Dios por Santo! Que Barbaridad! The guy is guilty no matter which way you look at it!!
I think you have the justice system turned around. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. FYI you are not supposed to have to prove you are innocent under their system of justice.

He may not have proven he was innocent but I don't think they proved he was guilty either and the judge wasnt planning to help him any with his decisions like ruling out his main witness, an expert on Election Interference but allowing Stormy Daniels testimony which actually had nothing to do with the case.
But I expected that verdict. And for Westwoody yes...it was a political trial. Thats why they made sure they prosecuted it in New York. There are more TDS people like those on this board in New York than anywhere else except maybe BC and California. It was a sure win. Republican jurors would probably defend Trump and Democrats would want to crucify him. Where is the surprise there?
 

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There was no surprise. Dem jury, Dem state, Dem Judge who donated to Biden campaign. Ya, even a blind man saw the results coming.
Hannity 2 weeks ago called it that Trump would have all charges called towards him and not 1 would go his way. Sure enough, the guarantee became a guarantee.

I then watched CNN and even a couple on the panel were a bit shocked by the verdict results. One described it like the OJ case only the opposite happened. I don't believe Trump will be given jail time for these causes.


Where is the surprise there?
 
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I think you have the justice system turned around. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. FYI you are not supposed to have to prove you are innocent under their system of justice.

He may not have proven he was innocent but I don't think they proved he was guilty either and the judge wasnt planning to help him any with his decisions like ruling out his main witness, an expert on Election Interference but allowing Stormy Daniels testimony which actually had nothing to do with the case.
But I expected that verdict. And for Westwoody yes...it was a political trial. Thats why they made sure they prosecuted it in New York. There are more TDS people like those on this board in New York than anywhere else except maybe BC and California. It was a sure win. Republican jurors would probably defend Trump and Democrats would want to crucify him. Where is the surprise there?
Not surprised at the outcome.. Agreed. Was he proven guilty? yes I believe so (was there any doubt that he was guilty of paying the hush money in an effort to manipulate the election?) is there a large political component involved?.. absolutely. Is he guilty of this and worse.. IMHO Yes!. Are most politicians guilty of similar (if not as openly egregious) violations?.. I believe so yes. Will he go to jail? Probably not. Will this help or harm him in the election? It will definitely mobilize his base to turn out to vote.. so it will help him. I hope that it mobilizes the vastly larger number of moral, intelligent Americans to turn up to vote.. not necessarily For Biden.. But Against Trump. Which is what happened in 2020. Politics is always a nasty and duplicitous business, but now it's getting openly nasty and openly outright duplicitous. Bald faced lying is the current norm and it's hard to see (and even when it's seen it's often ignored) where the truth lies. I believe that Trump is an unrepentant liar and con man, guilty of numerous scams, (many of which are legal as he convinces people to be financially stupid to his benefit of their own free will) and indifferent to ethics and morality. IMHO he's scum of the worst order.. In other words.. He's a wealthy entitled narcissistic Politician.
Not many politicians are truthfully unselfish, it's an unfortunate byproduct of politics, but Trump is definitely, in my opinion, one of the worst.
 

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Not surprised at the outcome.. Agreed. Was he proven guilty? yes I believe so (was there any doubt that he was guilty of paying the hush money in an effort to manipulate the election?) is there a large political component involved?.. absolutely. Is he guilty of this and worse.. IMHO Yes!. Are most politicians guilty of similar (if not as openly egregious) violations?.. I believe so yes. Will he go to jail? Probably not. Will this help or harm him in the election? It will definitely mobilize his base to turn out to vote.. so it will help him. I hope that it mobilizes the vastly larger number of moral, intelligent Americans to turn up to vote.. not necessarily For Biden.. But Against Trump. Which is what happened in 2020. Politics is always a nasty and duplicitous business, but now it's getting openly nasty and openly outright duplicitous. Bald faced lying is the current norm and it's hard to see (and even when it's seen it's often ignored) where the truth lies. I believe that Trump is an unrepentant liar and con man, guilty of numerous scams, (many of which are legal as he convinces people to be financially stupid to his benefit of their own free will) and indifferent to ethics and morality. IMHO he's scum of the worst order.. In other words.. He's a wealthy entitled narcissistic Politician.
Not many politicians are truthfully unselfish, it's an unfortunate byproduct of politics, but Trump is definitely, in my opinion, one of the worst.
Too bad people are only mobilized to vote against Trump for the second time, instead of voting for their candidate.
 
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I think you have the justice system turned around. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. FYI you are not supposed to have to prove you are innocent under their system of justice.

He may not have proven he was innocent but I don't think they proved he was guilty either and the judge wasnt planning to help him any with his decisions like ruling out his main witness, an expert on Election Interference but allowing Stormy Daniels testimony which actually had nothing to do with the case.
But I expected that verdict. And for Westwoody yes...it was a political trial. Thats why they made sure they prosecuted it in New York. There are more TDS people like those on this board in New York than anywhere else except maybe BC and California. It was a sure win. Republican jurors would probably defend Trump and Democrats would want to crucify him. Where is the surprise there?
Isn't it the reason Stormy Daniel was called bcoz the defence in their opening remarks denied Orange turd had a sexual encounter with the SD? This open the door for prosecution to call SD to the witness stand. Its defence own doing. Also the crimes were committed in NYC, right? So it should be tried there. This is to prevent forum shopping. Look at the document case. Crime happened in Florida so case was filed there. He was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by 12 juries of his peers. No evidence to the contrary. If you were in the jury, will you find him not guilty with all the witnesses, who were his inner circle? The defence is supposed to defend but apparently they can't do that bcoz O turd has nothing to even create a small amount doubt to the jury that he is innocent of the charges. You just can't defend something that is indefensible.
 
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