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Based on Qanon , far right people and conspiracy theorists that Soros guy not only runs his holdings, his charity org , his democracy alliance, open society foundation and.....the US Government as a whole on top of influencing every single organization behind civil rights movement.

It turns out that Soros is the most alert , efficient and assertive 94 year old guy I ever heard of and/or hired the best managerial team that we have never heard about or from in US history. It's just like those 100s of thousands of people have no free will or initiative to do what they do without the omnipotent Soros.

It's very interesting...that someone with less means than the Koch brothers and Musk can accomplish so much with so much less . ( That's also the efficient part I was hinting )
Soros should write a book about efficiency and how to get the best result for a dollar since he is definitely the best ever in world history...Well next to Alexander the great and Genghis Khan obviously as they would be close seconds 🤔
Actually his son Alex runs it ...but I will bite. Which unelected people we didn't know about WERE running the government? Fill us in. Then why did they try to cover it up for 4 years and pretend Joe was in charge and sharp as a tack right up to the fatal debate? I am all ears.
 

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How sheltered are you? The reports from the WSJ and also the New York Times (yes, the Times, Biden's friend) have outed the big cover-up and it's even been picked up by other Democrat-friendly media.
Make up your minds, either i get all my info from my fake media news or i dont. You guys are so inconsistent.

Anyways i looked it up it seems you all are refering to the editorial opinion piece by a prominent dyed in the wool Republican who compare Biden to the styilized accounts of Washington and Jefferson as if it proves that Soros is running things instead of it just being Bidens aides sheltering him. You're wrong, it does no such thing. Your claim is like saying you cant see the back of a McDonalds so they must be serving horse meat - just as tenous, and a classic misdirection attempt.

These things are not equal, and you guys are bullshitters if this is your claim; you need to exercise due dilligrnce and back things up. Expect to be called out as liars for any future attempts like this.
 

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Based on Qanon , far right people and conspiracy theorists that Soros guy not only runs his holdings, his charity org , his democracy alliance, open society foundation and.....the US Government as a whole on top of influencing every single organization behind civil rights movement.

It turns out that Soros is the most alert , efficient and assertive 94 year old guy I ever heard of and/or hired the best managerial team that we have never heard about or from in US history. It's just like those 100s of thousands of people have no free will or initiative to do what they do without the omnipotent Soros.

It's very interesting...that someone with less means than the Koch brothers and Musk can accomplish so much with so much less . ( That's also the efficient part I was hinting )
Soros should write a book about efficiency and how to get the best result for a dollar since he is definitely the best ever in world history...Well next to Alexander the great and Genghis Khan obviously as they would be close seconds 🤔
The maga crowd likes to demonize George Soros for some reason. He collaborated with the nazis as a youth in his native Hungary, I would think that would endear him to the magats.
 

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Left wingers are the new fascists.
Maybe you didn't get the memo.
Left wingers and right wingers are all some form of control freaks. Those moderates in the middle are screwed by Trump, his minions and those on the left. But we moderates gotta fight.
 
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Left wingers are the new fascists.
Maybe you didn't get the memo.
Leftists to the extreme= communist or anarchist
Right wing to the extreme = fascist

Just a reminder of what is what so that we can follow and to make sure it makes sense.

Unless you put it in a poem to express ambivalence...than we can have a giggle
 
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Leftists to the extreme= communist or anarchist
Right wing to the extreme = fascist

Just a reminder of what is what so that we can follow and to make sure it makes sense.

Unless you put it in a poem to express ambivalence...than
Nice try. Some things are beyond your obfuscatory attempts at reality bending and are objectively lies. Trump is documented to have muttered many of them. Go ahead , ask me for a list😐
Yes, show me the "documents".
Ob-fu-sc-at-or-y
Someone's been hitting the dictionary hard!
 

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Yes, show me the "documents".
Ob-fu-sc-at-or-y
Someone's been hitting the dictionary hard!
--Trump claims immigrants in Springfirld are eating pets.
--Trump claims children are being sent for gender re-assignment surgery without their parents knowledge at school.
--Trump claims Harris was sent to entreat with Putin 3 days before Russian invasion of Ukraine
Trump claims he was awarded 'Michigan Man of the Year'
--"As California attorney general, she redefined child sex trafficking, assault with a deadly weapon and rape of an unconscious person as a totally nonviolent crime,"
--In Lancaster, Pa., “We caught them with 2,600 votes. We caught them cold, 2,600 votes. ... And every vote was written by the same person."
--Vice President Kamala Harris “wants struggling seniors to pay more Social Security taxes while she gives Medicare and Social Security to illegals.”

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--Trump claims immigrants in Springfirld are eating pets.
--Trump claims children are being sent for gender re-assignment surgery without their parents knowledge at school.
--Trump claims Harris was sent to entreat with Putin 3 days before Russian invasion of Ukraine
Trump claims he was awarded 'Michigan Man of the Year'
--"As California attorney general, she redefined child sex trafficking, assault with a deadly weapon and rape of an unconscious person as a totally nonviolent crime,"
--In Lancaster, Pa., “We caught them with 2,600 votes. We caught them cold, 2,600 votes. ... And every vote was written by the same person."
--Vice President Kamala Harris “wants struggling seniors to pay more Social Security taxes while she gives Medicare and Social Security to illegals.”

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All water under the bridge at this point. It's been hard for me to categorize your posts. Often nonsensical, frequently over the top and sometimes just childish. That's all fine but at this point you've just become an annoying bore. That's where I have to draw the line. It's not fun for me anymore. I'm going to have to say goodbye. Congrats on that time living in those mansions.
I'm jealous.
 

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You have to be a very gullible dummy to believe anything Trump says is the truth, anyone with just a bit of common sense can see right through this guy’s con game. The people who voted for him will pay the price just like the other working class Americans, he doesn’t give a shit about anyone. The billionaires running the show now will mop the floor with the working class while Orange asshole goes golfing. He accomplished his goal to stay out of jail now he will suck up all the cash coming his way from his rich ass kissers, should be interesting to watch as the world spins off its axis.🤯
 
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--Trump claims immigrants in Springfirld are eating pets.
--Trump claims children are being sent for gender re-assignment surgery without their parents knowledge at school.
--Trump claims Harris was sent to entreat with Putin 3 days before Russian invasion of Ukraine
Trump claims he was awarded 'Michigan Man of the Year'
--"As California attorney general, she redefined child sex trafficking, assault with a deadly weapon and rape of an unconscious person as a totally nonviolent crime,"
--In Lancaster, Pa., “We caught them with 2,600 votes. We caught them cold, 2,600 votes. ... And every vote was written by the same person."
--Vice President Kamala Harris “wants struggling seniors to pay more Social Security taxes while she gives Medicare and Social Security to illegals.”

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LLLurkJ2 ...it looks like you are playing a hockey where the goalie of the opposing team keeps moving the goal to prevent you to score . Don't claim unfairness.... it's a vision problem on their part .
 
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--Trump claims immigrants in Springfirld are eating pets.
--Trump claims children are being sent for gender re-assignment surgery without their parents knowledge at school.
--Trump claims Harris was sent to entreat with Putin 3 days before Russian invasion of Ukraine
Trump claims he was awarded 'Michigan Man of the Year'
--"As California attorney general, she redefined child sex trafficking, assault with a deadly weapon and rape of an unconscious person as a totally nonviolent crime,"
--In Lancaster, Pa., “We caught them with 2,600 votes. We caught them cold, 2,600 votes. ... And every vote was written by the same person."
--Vice President Kamala Harris “wants struggling seniors to pay more Social Security taxes while she gives Medicare and Social Security to illegals.”

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Cover up of Bidens mental state for 4 years
Hunter's Laptop is Russian disinformation
Ivermectin is horse paste
I will NOT pardon my son
Bloodbath (out of context)
I will be a dictator from day one (out of context and misquote)
Trump is trying to duplicate the Nazi rally at MSG
Good people on both sides. (out of context)
Covid came from a wet market
The FBI was not acting in consort with Twitter to censor Conservatives
Ukraine is winning the war!

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I would say these are far more consequential lies than the supposed ones you have provided.
 

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Cover up of Bidens mental state for 4 years
Hunter's Laptop is Russian disinformation
Ivermectin is horse paste
I will NOT pardon my son
Bloodbath (out of context)
I will be a dictator from day one (out of context and misquote)
Trump is trying to duplicate the Nazi rally at MSG
Good people on both sides. (out of context)
Covid came from a wet market
The FBI was not acting in consort with Twitter to censor Conservatives
Ukraine is winning the war!

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I would say these are far more consequential lies than the supposed ones you have provided.
So,

1) In your rush to defend the Diaper Don and 'both sides' this thing you've lost context that Orange Foolius is documented to have lied habitually and that he should not be believed when he says he did not assault E. Jean Caroll. By both sidesing you're proving my point. He is 'technically not a rapist' and is a sexual assaulter.

2) Your quoting all sources as if Biden made the lies personally. Were I to include the right wing nut-job media you source, i'd have to just put a live stream up here to capture all their bs. That would be the equivelent of asking people to defend media statements.

3) The guy who said HBiden gave money to the big guy just plead guilty to lying to the FBI about it. So the Cons just tried to destroy a private citizen to get at poppa - I though this was something you gun nut pro convoy freaks were worried about.

4) Out of the things you listed, only Biden pardoning his son is a provable 'lie', but again you hold your opponents to a different standard than you expect of your chosen one. I personally believe the pardon system in the states needs overhaul and is being abused - Roger Stone, Paul Manifort and Guilliani should be rotting in jail for espionage among others.

3) How many other of your pet theories didnt pan out? QAnon ring a bell?

4) I would not agree they are more consequential unless I was a partisan hack. Even Biden pardoning his son has less consequence than the pardons the Golden Umpa Loompa gave out to folks who lied to congress and the FBI for him.

5) Im noticing a trend with you where you take the very slightest whiff of something and then run with it as if true. Invermectin is horse paste when the efficacy of treatment is reviewed under a high standard scientific scrutiny.
At least dig deeper into your sources before using them as evidence , otherwise you're just another rube propogandist. Read the articles, look for counter arguments, have at least some room for controversy beyond 'my favourite talking head said it so it must be true'
 

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Even for you this is next level stupid.
You are bringing the crazy today so I applaud you for that.
Let's say you work for ICBC, maybe as a claims manager. A friend of mine is badly hurt in an accident and recieves a crappy settlement because of your adjudication and after all it's no fault insurance anyway. I track you down, shoot you in the back and kill you.
If this works for you it works for me.
Aww, did I hurt your feelings Bubbi? :confused:

Rest assured, Biden would never do such a thing, because after all he is from Delaware (no matter how many of you claim he is some kind of satanic communist lizard person from Mars).


I see that your boy Luigi is becoming a "gay icon". I like girls but those eyebrows may get me to switch teams.
He's going to be very popular in prison.

Yeah, the girlies are moist over the guy - they see him as the Timothee Chalamet of assassins.

I'm not gonna throw stones - not if I am thirsting over Colombian hitter & shot-caller “La Muneca” .



"Capitalism has consequences"

Have you ever thought of putting that on a T-shirt?
Another great idea, thanks !
A guy could make a lot of money selling t-shirts with that written on the back, with crosshairs on a limo, and on the front, "Bravo Luigi !" in big letters above a cartoon hit man.
Too bad I'm not some sort of visual artist - I could draw that, spin the profits into some crypto play, then cash out when it peaks, and use the profits to create an army of assassins.
It's a trend that's got more potential than Hawk Tuah. More chaos = more money. I can be like the Pentagon !

Or maybe just visit more lovely ladies, and gift them some shares of they model the t-shirts, wearing only the t-shirts. After all, we are on PERB. :p



Almost makes one miss Dr John.
Well, I suspect he's still with us "in spirit". :unsure:
 
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The weirdness hasn’t even got started yet but 2025 will definitely hit that target, how an unelected richest guy in the world can buy his way to the top tier in US government blows me away🤦🏻‍♂️
Does President Musk know about the coup planned for January 20th!

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President-elect Musk already pulled the stings on the Congreessional budget deal - Musk himself said he would "primary" any GOP lawmaker who did not obey his orders to kill the original deal.

Trump was forced to play catch-up on it and got revealed as playing second-fiddle to the guy who dropped $700 million into his campaign and bent his whole Xwitter network towards Trump winning a second term.
 
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yeah, except... thats not how it works. sorry, buts its the expected simplistic answer. its the Trump answer.

the US is a net exporter of refined oil products. $138B in 2022.

US oil companies take our unrefined heavy crude, refine it and sell it. and make a killing doing so.

the US produces enough crude oil for domestic consumption.

so US GDP just takes a hit as refineries look for other sources of heavy crude to refine. the US has excess heavy crude refining capacity while the US produces mostly light crude.

and this isn't the way Canadians want it anyways. gas is expensive here because Big Oil have control of our product. so they ensure that there are limited refining possibilities here in Canada to keep gas prices high. we don't control what happens to the oil. we just sell oil leases.

52% of Canadian oil production is owned by US owners.

so whatever. Trump might be doing us a big favour when it comes to oil. i would love for the US companies to be forced to abandon Canadian oil and the Canadian government nationalize it like Norway.

Indeed, Canada forcing the US out of all ownership of Canadian strategic resources (and Canadian news media) would be a great response to Trump's bullshit.
They seem to forget how much of that supposed trader deficit is actually flowing back to them as the profits of US-owned "Canadian" corporations. Yes, let us derail their money train & cut those puppet strings while we're at it.
They wanted bad relations, so be it. They can lose all the sweetheart deals & political benefit of the doubt that Canada has unwisely have given them of the years.
 

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The maga crowd likes to demonize George Soros for some reason. He collaborated with the nazis as a youth in his native Hungary, I would think that would endear him to the magats.

Nah, he is one person who actually deserves it. Crashed the UK pound on purpose just to reap billions, caused a lot of suffering, but does not care what he does to nations because he is one of those "anti-national" types.

But he did not collaborate with the nazis, that is absurd; the guy is Jewish - he was a target of the nazis.
 
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