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which is exactly what you just posted, criminalizing and forcing others to follow someone else's beliefs rather than being tolerant and respecting others

18-20 yr olds in their society

Republicans and Democrats

the liberals want to force you to believe shit, follow their beliefs, same with Republicans, MAGA and normal ones

even when it makes no sense

you're going to send a kid to war at 18 but tell him he can't have a beer?

who's intolerant, lacking respect

people who say "who cares" about the rights of others
Correct me guys if I am wrong but I believe that in the Canadian military you can start drinking once you join up. I am fairly sure it was like that years ago.
 

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yeah, that's really working well here

gun crime is really down since the Turd took over and put in superficial PC gun laws

unless you're going to confiscate all the guns, the only people who follow gun laws are the ones who are already doing it

criminals don't care what the gun laws are, neither do crazy people, who will find another weapon just like the nut job in Van did this week

it's a culture, the U.S. has a culture problem

Switzerland, gun ownership is in the 25% range, yet virtually no gun problem
I am not sure that you are correct. I wonder what the ratio of criminal to domestic shootings are in the US. I suspect that it is much higher than in Canada, simply due to the easy access to guns.
 

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Former VP Dick Cheney says he will vote for Harris : NPR
Dick Cheney - “In our nation’s 248-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” Cheney said of the former president and Republican nominee. “He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again.
“As citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our constitution. That is why I will be casting my vote for Vice-President Kamala Harris.”

And this is the shotgun toting guy who at the time in power was as right wing as they came. Pretty damning for 34 the convicted felon rapist pig.
 

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which is exactly what you just posted, criminalizing and forcing others to follow someone else's beliefs rather than being tolerant and respecting others

18-20 yr olds in their society

Republicans and Democrats

the liberals want to force you to believe shit, follow their beliefs, same with Republicans, MAGA and normal ones

even when it makes no sense

you're going to send a kid to war at 18 but tell him he can't have a beer?

who's intolerant, lacking respect

people who say "who cares" about the rights of others
A school teacher tells the student "I don't know if you're ignorant or just apathetic" and the student replies "I don't know and I don't care"
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So I am intolerant and lacking respect because I don't care about the legal drinking age? I think you need to look up the definitions of "intolerant" and "lacking respect"
I am absolutely tolerant of the drinking age, I literally don't care whether it's 18 or 21... practically the definition of tolerance.
I am lacking respect? I respect societal restrictions on substances that can impair judgement and cause serious harm if abused. Whether I agree with the designated age, I respect the law and since drinking beer isn't a right or a privilege that I think is terribly important at any age I don't give a damn what the designated age is... respectfully of course.
And let's cut the hyperbole, there hasn't been a draft (other than beer - is that the connection to your logic?) in Canada since 1945 so no 18 year old kids are being forced to go to war and if there were, I certainly wouldn't be sending them. We're not Americans.
 
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yeah, that's really working well here

gun crime is really down since the Turd took over and put in superficial PC gun laws

unless you're going to confiscate all the guns, the only people who follow gun laws are the ones who are already doing it

criminals don't care what the gun laws are, neither do crazy people, who will find another weapon just like the nut job in Van did this week

it's a culture, the U.S. has a culture problem

Switzerland, gun ownership is in the 25% range, yet virtually no gun problem
Legislation is what changes the culture. Once you have in place mandatory vetting, or required training and limitations on what sorts of firearms can be purchased / owned by the non-military public, you reduce the ease with which people with mental illnesses can obtain the guns. The vendors begin to become accountable for what they sell and to whom.
You're correct that the USA would have a greater issue with existing firearms, but programs where they can be turned in for cash would start to deplete the civilian stockpile and over time ready access would decrease such that in most homes it would be highly unlikely for a child to find a loaded gun and have an accident.
Psychos would be less likely to find easy access to guns.
Criminals would have to be much more careful about gun ownership, and the types of firearms readily available would likely be less lethal.
Kids would grow up in a culture where access to guns required training and vetting, leading to less irresponsible gun owners and a greater appreciation of the responsibility inherent in that ownership.
And you're absolutely right, it's a culture problem.. one that can be solved over time by gun legislation.
 
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Legislation is what changes the culture.
haha, no, it doesn't

look at the superficial PC laws the Turd and his incompetent gang have put in the last 9 yrs

they've made the cops judge and jury for drunk driving, it's done nothing, zero

it's low hanging fruit, catching a person who's successfully driven for who knows how far, to be caught by a stop check, does nothing to deter others

stats prove it, deaths aren't down dramatically since the useless JWR put it in, mandatory breath samples

just like with gun legislation, the knee jerk reaction Crooked Lip put in in the 90's

or the useless PC moves by the Turd

gun deaths/shootings/injuries/suicides by gun, nothing has changed dramatically


gun bans, the guns he banned, cause of "LOOKS" don't function any differently than any other semi-automatic rifle

they just look scary

culture changes from the parents, values, edumaction, role models, leaders in the community, friends

LEGISLATION DOESN'T CHANGE CULTURE, IF IT DID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AFTER 9 YRS

OF BEING TOLD BY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PERFECTION WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING

AND HIM TRYING TO IMPOSE HIS ENLIGHTENMENT ON US LOWER FORMS OF HUMANITY

DON'T YOU REMEMBER HIM TELLING US OVER AND OVER THAT HE KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR US

WE'RE JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID TO SEE/KNOW IT?


btw did you not see those 2 margine alized following the legislation the other day in Toronto?

wildly firing guns in a park?

cause they needed to pick up a gun to feed themselves, another of the Turds stupid statements, it's not their fault, it's whiteys supremacy, *(except in Que)

guess they didn't get the memo
 

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I woke up this morning and just couldn't help noticing the news was all about orange turd. His threatening election workers and republicans defending him, his stupid 100% tariffs, lying about Zuckerberg not voting Democrats (Meta denying it, ofc), the "facts of life" comment of JD Vance about gun violence, Russia interfering again in US election, so on and so forth. 🤦‍♂️ Aren't American tired of this man? Haven't they had enough of him? I'll really be surprised if he wins again.
 

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I woke up this morning and just couldn't help noticing the news was all about orange turd. His threatening election workers and republicans defending him, his stupid 100% tariffs, lying about Zuckerberg not voting Democrats (Meta denying it, ofc), the "facts of life" comment of JD Vance about gun violence, Russia interfering again in US election, so on and so forth. 🤦‍♂️ Aren't American tired of this man? Haven't they had enough of him? I'll really be surprised if he wins again.
Sadly America still has enough gullible people to vote for a known scammer....the list goes on...... and get him elected . His numbers are still strong in the battle states .

Looks like will have another nail biting night in November unless Harris blows him out of the water this week during the debate. We will see if the format will advantage one or the other or protect better one or the other from faltering.
 
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The Torture of Government Statistics
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The system itself might be widely considered to be broken but no one has the incentive to fix it. It just keeps going on as is because no one in particular is held responsible. That is why the GDP figures are not fixed to zero out government spending even though we long ago realized that government spending makes no net contribution to output. And it is the same with many features of the inflation index and the jobs data. Everyone knows about the undercounting and the overcounting but no one is in charge of fixing the problem. So it never gets fixed.

Everyone knows the data's no good, but we all use it anyway because it's all we have to work with."
- Chuck Prince, former CEO of Citibank

https://www.theepochtimes.com/opini...tics-5718565?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign/
 
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haha, no, it doesn't

look at the superficial PC laws the Turd and his incompetent gang have put in the last 9 yrs

they've made the cops judge and jury for drunk driving, it's done nothing, zero

it's low hanging fruit, catching a person who's successfully driven for who knows how far, to be caught by a stop check, does nothing to deter others

stats prove it, deaths aren't down dramatically since the useless JWR put it in, mandatory breath samples

just like with gun legislation, the knee jerk reaction Crooked Lip put in in the 90's

or the useless PC moves by the Turd

gun deaths/shootings/injuries/suicides by gun, nothing has changed dramatically


gun bans, the guns he banned, cause of "LOOKS" don't function any differently than any other semi-automatic rifle

they just look scary

culture changes from the parents, values, edumaction, role models, leaders in the community, friends

LEGISLATION DOESN'T CHANGE CULTURE, IF IT DID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AFTER 9 YRS

OF BEING TOLD BY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PERFECTION WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING

AND HIM TRYING TO IMPOSE HIS ENLIGHTENMENT ON US LOWER FORMS OF HUMANITY

DON'T YOU REMEMBER HIM TELLING US OVER AND OVER THAT HE KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR US

WE'RE JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID TO SEE/KNOW IT?


btw did you not see those 2 margine alized following the legislation the other day in Toronto?

wildly firing guns in a park?

cause they needed to pick up a gun to feed themselves, another of the Turds stupid statements, it's not their fault, it's whiteys supremacy, *(except in Que)

guess they didn't get the memo
Ineffective legislation doesn't change culture... Effective legislation does. Other countries have done it and changed their culture. Example Australia. Just because Americans don't want to change their culture doesn't mean it can't be done.
 
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Ineffective legislation doesn't change culture... Effective legislation does. Other countries have done it and changed their culture. Example Australia. Just because Americans don't want to change their culture doesn't mean it can't be done.
Wasnt it a crime for black folks to sit at the whites counter a while back? I think they changed the laws there and the culture has changed a bit maybe.
 
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Ineffective legislation doesn't change culture... Effective legislation does. Other countries have done it and changed their culture. Example Australia. Just because Americans don't want to change their culture doesn't mean it can't be done.
woke bullshit, laws are on the books, have been for decades, hasn't moved the needle

people move the needle, not the politicians, unless they're a dictator, which is what the Turd is trying/has been trying to do, his actions prove that, over and over, people are resisting


laws? Sweden isn't/wasn't OK? now? Why? what changed? laws? no

https://edmontonsun.com/news/crime/...-immigrant-gangs-leave-streets-awash-in-blood

go to the part where he talks about Sweden, who has very strict gun laws

tell me that's misinformation



https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/col...rime/wcm/e02eb591-52cb-4fe6-84c6-5483b135a3b1

go to the stats, not about race/ethnicity, but one fact, lack of a father figure, this is a U.S. and Canada issue

dispute them, the stats, comments, go dispute the facts about just Blacks in the U.S. with fatherhood, since the 60's





here's another example

not laws

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EJJNwOlW-OI

again, it's not about laws, enacting them "properly"






and talking about "laws"




watch this oldie but a current one

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mc2AKRJm5rg

they want laws to tell you what to say

go to Britain, go to the no go zones in certain cities, where the laws are the same, sure, effective






effective legislation, sure, like what's happening to Peterson?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jo...n-to-shut-me-up-has-filed-five-new-complaints

thought police, that kind of legislation?

thinking for yourself?
 
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So back to US politics.

I figure tonight might become a bit juicy IF and that is an important IF, the moderators control the goings on.

The 34 times convicted felon, racist, fat pig, last time around started each new topic by bringing up the last topic and getting a last word. That is bullshit and any proper mod would have cut the mic, so ... hoping there is a degree of honesty in this.
 
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So back to US politics.

I figure tonight might become a bit juicy IF and that is an important IF, the moderators control the goings on.

The 34 times convicted felon, racist, fat pig, last time around started each new topic by bringing up the last topic and getting a last word. That is bullshit and any proper mod would have cut the mic, so ... hoping there is a degree of honesty in this.
Muted mics will keep em in check... Harris team tridd hard to have unmuted but trumps team didn't 😂 wonder why
 

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How could this election be so close when the 2 candidates are so distinctly different? The more I try to understand it, the more I get to hate the guy. There is no explanation except that much of Orange turd supporters are already too deep in shit of quicksand. The more they try to get out, the more they are sucked in. It’s just sad that a lot of Americans are blinded by this conman. When I first saw him on The Apprentice, I told myself, this guys is a fake. Plain and simple. America should wake up.
 
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…. How could NBC come up with this stupid show with a man in the center who bankrupted more than 5 of his companies, was sued by many people including students of his stupid university. He was almost about to disappear, done until it was saved by this tv show. NBC should be partly blamed for dressing up this conman into what he is today.
 
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