USA Political Discussion Thread 2025

[Crookedmember]

My laughing emoji was for your dramatics and not over a murder. Just to be clear

The drama is stomach turning. He wasn't Ghandi, He wasn't even Lennon. He was a grifter who made his millions by riling people and fomenting anger.

He was a piece of the machine responsible for kids getting slaughtered in school, women bleeding to death in hospital parking lots because medical staff is afraid to treat them, and "illegals" rotting in el Salvadorian concentration camps.

He was not a good person. In the end, the anger and rage got him. Live by the sword . . .

 

[picante55]

The drama is stomach turning. He wasn't Ghandi, He wasn't even Lennon. He was a grifter who made his millions by riling people and fomenting anger.

He was a piece of the machine responsible for kids getting slaughtered in school, women bleeding to death in hospital parking lots because medical staff is afraid to treat them, and "illegals" rotting in el Salvadorian concentration camps.

He was not a good person. In the end, the anger and rage got him. Live by the sword . . .

So you're advocating that it's okay to shoot people you feel are not good? No wonder the world is so ef'd up!

 

[Crookedmember]

So you're advocating that it's okay to shoot people you feel are not good? No wonder the world is so ef'd up!

No, I'm saying Trump and his ilk are responsible for the rage and anger that leads to violence. Read better.

 

[Newuser505]

No, I'm saying Trump and his ilk are responsible for the rage and anger that leads to violence. Read better.

A lot of people argue in bad faith to manipulate your point to fit their narrative.

 

[SmikeSmith]

The amount of performative outrage _against_ political violence from the right is ridiculous.

How excited were they when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked? When Minnesota politicians were assassinated? When churches and schools were attacked by gunmen with political manifestos that clearly identify their right-leaning politics.

Violence is not valid speech, but to police how people use emoji responses on a message board meant to help folks connect to sex workers is about as dumb as it gets.

 

[Harmony-bc]

A lot of people argue in bad faith to manipulate your point to fit their narrative.

Yep. That’s why it’s important to be clear and not rise to the bait 💕

 

[Harmony-bc]

The drama is stomach turning. He wasn't Ghandi, He wasn't even Lennon. He was a grifter who made his millions by riling people and fomenting anger.

He was a piece of the machine responsible for kids getting slaughtered in school, women bleeding to death in hospital parking lots because medical staff is afraid to treat them, and "illegals" rotting in el Salvadorian concentration camps.

He was not a good person. In the end, the anger and rage got him. Live by the sword . . .

He was one of the worst. And while I don’t condone murder, I am glad he’s no longer able to bring his violent rhetoric to youth across the USA

 

[luvsdaty]

 

[rottweiler]

Oh great, another Epstein distraction.

 

[masterblaster]

Personally I didn’t care for him or the maga rhetoric he espoused. Today was his judgement day.

 

[luvsdaty]

Oh great, another Epstein distraction.

Trumps pulling out all the stops to distract the people

 

[ivn7z]

Good riddance.

 

[80watts]

Yes sadly he passed . Never really agreed on anything he argued for ...but he was in his rights to voice his opinions.

Nothing can justify killing someone for an idea.

High power rifle with one shot only to the neck , the kid had no chance. Gun man arrested . Looks like a middle-aged guy

Crazy
The US is heading down a dangerous path

I agree that nothing can or should justify the killing another person. But people are human. They have their reasons for killing. Power, Money, Religious Fever, Hate, Justice, Racism, Revenge, etc.
That is on a individual level, increase it to a group, party, or state level. eg. Nazis...... Looking at the rise of Nazism in Germany is sickening when you see the same stuff happening in Western countries today, especially the US.
The first people getting wiped out/silenced are the moderates (people that see both sides). This happened in Israel and middle east in the 1920/30s; Polarizing the area. Same thing is happening in the US with the Dem/Rep polarizing into camps that are becoming more radicalized in their view points and opinions.

 

[80watts]

The violence in the USA is an American problem. And not a left or a right problem. Trump is targeting democratic states because he’s a bully and wants to push his weight around. Otherwise he’d be in all the states with high crime. PERIOD

Not a particular American Problem.

Its a inequality problem of haves and have nots.

Another part of the wheel is the Vice problem, drugs, alcohol, sex, anything the state has forbidden, the people want and will pay money for. The nature of the capitalist free trade system is greed and power.

If someone is a problem, you kill them. This is where the violence comes in (on the illegal side). People backed into corners, poverty, going to jail, on drugs and combination of things will drive people to kill.

When people don't have a way of supporting themselves legally, they turn to illegal ways to support themselves.

Its kinda a vicious circle.

The solution is to get people out of poverty and educate them so they have goals and a purpose to live, without them being trapped in the "system".

 

[80watts]

The amount of performative outrage _against_ political violence from the right is ridiculous.

How excited were they when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked? When Minnesota politicians were assassinated? When churches and schools were attacked by gunmen with political manifestos that clearly identify their right-leaning politics.

Violence is not valid speech, but to police how people use emoji responses on a message board meant to help folks connect to sex workers is about as dumb as it gets.

If Carl von Clausewitz said "war is an extension of politics", is true; violence is valid speech. Sad, very sad.

 

[westwoody]

So you're advocating that it's okay to shoot people you feel are not good? No wonder the world is so ef'd up!

The world is fucked up because assholes like Kirk and Trump have monetized hate speech.
Hate speech is not harmless expression.
Kirk advocated policies that definitely caused suffering and death.
Maybe the shooter was someone whose wife died because she couldn’t get an abortion?
Maybe the shooter is someone whose child was killed in a school shooting that Kirk jokes about?
There is no point debating with fascist assholes who are promoting violence against you.

Kirk said school shootings were a necessary consequence of the 2A and he gets shot at a school. If that ain’t karma?

 

[ChromeGasCap]

This problem neither left or right, republican or democrat.
This problem can be directly attributed to rising levels of rhetoric.
In firing up one side, individuals from the other side can simultaneously be fired up.
Currently it is the right that has been using heightened rhetoric, and so should consider themselves indirectly responsible for what happened to Kirk.
This is not a justification for what happened, as this is completely unacceptable.
It was right wing rhetoric that led to the shooting of Gifford.
Extreme acts can and do get executed by either side.

 

[VanCityNewb]

Meme dump

 

[Newuser505]

Meme dump

I am totally fine with this guys rhetoric reduced to memes.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Many of you perfect moralizers must be so proud justifying cold-blooded murder. Oh, but Kirk said things we don’t like. Talk about victim blaming.

“Maybe the killer was this, or that, or had hangnail.” What bullshit.

Kirk didn’t set policy, make laws or sit as a judge. He went into mostly hostile territory, and debated. That’s it. And for that he was murdered. How many of you keyboard warrior would have the courage to do what he did? Or even debate him? Many of you lose the ability to breathe if someone wears a red hat near you. How many of you would say what you're saying her here anonymously, where you could be identified at your workplace, or in public?

“We’ll kill you for not thinking like us.” In your groupthink bubble anything done to someone whose beliefs are different than yours is completely okay. Who are the fascists again?